DTA wrote:Kikapu wrote:Viewpoint wrote:In 100 years time no one will even remember it was GC land plus you have ours add to this our rights to this island and our willingness to pay compensation to those who claim it This in time will on time bring recognition or officialy uniting with Turkey.
Sure, pick 100 years to prove your case, only there won't be anyone around from today to tell you you were wrong. That's what I call a safe bet.!
You must be very afraid as to what may happen to you in the north at much nearer date than 100 years.!
Yeah, I don't blame you that you don't want to think about the near term possible outcomes, just because those outcomes doesn't favour you at all, so you thought, why not go for the 100 year milestone and I thought you were a tough lady with all your bravado, day in and day out to face anything and everything.
Turkey will reform and will want to be in the EU, one way or the other, even if it takes a long time, and to be in the EU, Turkey will need to give the north back to the RoC. Turkey has everything to lose by keeping the north and everything to gain by being in the EU. Just because today's Islamic leaders in Turkey are in office and are playing silly buggers with the EU, it does not mean EU minded leaders will not be in office later.
Time Does Not Stand Still.! :wink:
Kiks why dont the Gcs implement an IPC because my family who left in 68 would love to get the compensation for their land.
As DT stated, there is a process the TCs can go through in the RoC for their property. But there are the problems for the TCs in getting their property back if the said property has more than ONE owner, like a grandparent/parent and they have passed away, in which case, a simple IPC set up in the south will not do, as it is done in the north due to complications with many TCs who have been given GCs properties by the "trnc" for their deeds of their properties in the south. Even if your family has not done the same just because they have been in the UK since 1968, you may have other family members who has and they too also have a claim on your grandparents/parents property in the south. Why don't you give me some specifics whose land it is and how many from the family stood to inherit it, if the original owner of the said land is no longer alive. I believe in Deniz's case, he is the ONLY beneficiary of his parents property in the south and since they too left before 1974, Deniz was able to secure the titles to his name of his parents land going through the RoC's legal system.
The RoC is not going to give anything away if all those in the family are not going to go through probate to have the land divided equally by those who stood to inherit their grandparents/parents land, if they have already passed away. While the GCs have been passing on their land they own in the north to their heirs in a legal way since 1974, almost most of the TCs have not done the same through the RoC's legal system for the land they own in the south, just because they were told that the Cyprus problem was solved in 1974 and that many have been compensated with stolen GCs land in return for theirs in the south. Now that many of our TC grandparents/parents has passed away in the last 36 years without passing on their properties to their heirs legally, it is going to be a monumentally difficulty for any TC family who had land in the south to sort it out as to who owns what anymore,
a) if there are more than ONE heir
b) they left Cyprus before 1974 or not left at all
c) other heirs did not leave Cyprus before 1974 and are still in Cyprus
d) and some of the heirs are still occupying GC properties that they gotten in "exchange" by giving the deeds of their assumed part of their assumed inherited land that they assumed to have gotten as an inheritance to the "trnc", all arranged with the "trnc", who now holds all the TCs legal deeds of their land in the south, who will not be at all happy if any of the above TCs then tried to sell their inherited land in the south after they have been compensated with stolen GC land in the north. In fact, any TC attempting any such move, is likely to get punished severely by the "trnc" in trying to "double dipping". These are just some of the problems.
It is a "minefield" of problems the TCs have gotten themselves into by not doing very much with their properties in the south legally all this time, just because they were told that the Cyprus problem was solved in 1974 and the RoC is not going to have a simple IPC and give land away in bits and pieces to some members of the same family who may qualify, and not give anything to others who do not qualify. The TCs land will need to be divided through probate in the RoC's courts with ALL the family members who stand to inherit parts of the said land, which they ALL need to give their consents. The problem is, many TC heirs of their grandparents/parents land have made themselves to become ineligible to get anything back with their present situation by occupying GC land in "exchange" they agreed to do with the "trnc", and any other members of the same family who may be eligible in every sense cannot go forward because of the ones who are ineligible.
We TCs have gotten ourselves in a real pickle legally with our properties in the south and it will not be solved very easily, and with each passing year as the heirs numbers increase with grandchildren and grand grand children, the more difficult it will become to get them ALL to agree in how to get their land back, and if just ONE of them refuse to go along with the rest of the family to get their land back, the rest will more than likely will not get their inherited land at all, unless more legal work and more expense spent on lawyers.
Any questions.??
