DTA wrote:What I am saying is that it is a lot more complex then what you are making out and the fact that national identity (just a part of overall identity) is just a small and transiant (spelling) part. A lesson that the GC have been Really slow to learn.
What you are saying is not complex at all. Empty words, distortion, meaningless wishful thinking and double talk, yes, but not complex.!
DTA wrote:I don't really want to get in to an arguement with you as we agreed no to talk to each other which I have stuck with- and the reason for this is not for your opinions on a fully united cyprus which although I do not agree with i fully respect your right to have these opinions.
It suits gc propaganda to assume that there is not many tcs left. This is nothing but bullshit, there is an estimated 400,000 people in the north. That is tcs and new tcs
I made no such agreement with you at all. It was an agreement you have made with yourself, which you have broken by yourself. I'm only responding to your above statement in this thread, an open public forum. I did not PM you, have I.?? The fact that you are not willing to state the facts as to what constitutes a TC to be a TC and a Cypriot, tells me you are not worthy to be taken seriously to state facts since you are afraid that it may look negatively on the "trnc", the settlers and Turkey.
I give my opinions as I see them as to what is best for the TCs who wish to live in a Democratic Cyprus and EU with western values as equal citizens as described in the EU Principles. The only people who are stopping the TCs from becoming part of the west are the fascist ideologies practiced by their own leaders and Turkey's desires to rule over whole of Cyprus by them exporting as many Turkish settlers to Cyprus as Illegal Aliens to destroy ALL TC way of life as we have became to know for the last 400+ years. You and others have accepted the destruction of the genuine TCs by Turkey's actions and now you want to call the settlers the "New TCs". As a TC, I resent your acceptance of the demise of the TCs in Cyprus, to be replaced by the Anatolians, and resent even more that you want to call them the "New TCs". Perhaps the fact that you are a foreign born TC, like VP, explains why you do not value your own Turkish Cypriotness and are willing to discard it, but to some of us, we are not such easy pushovers.!
DTA wrote:All I would ask is for you not to use conjecture to belittle anything to do with the TCs just be fair with what you write - we have enough wrong with the the TRNC without our own people making stuff up and excusing the GCs for the amount of wrong they have done. be fair and and just and I will even support you (not that you possibly would want my support). Otherwise I think it is better that we do not communicate (no offense).
When you write nonsense and you are given the chance to either correct your statement or at least defend your statement and you cannot, then you should expect to be ridiculed.
My interests lie with the good TCs who see themselves as Cypriot trapped in the "trnc" mainly by their own corrupted leaders and does not lie with the "TCs" who see themselves as "afterbirth" remains of Turkey (Ottoman Empire). You believe what you want to believe and support and I will do the same. I do not want to see the good TCs in becoming of what has become of the Native American tribe, the
"Kickapoo (Kikapoo, Kikapu)"!
You will have to show me where I have ever excused any GCs wrongs done against the TCs anywhere. Governments and citizens all have certain degree of responsibilities towards each other. What I support is the
Rule of Law. Once again, you are making statements that you cannot defend.
If you do not want to respond to my questions when you make statements on the forum, then don't. No one will think any less of you if you cannot defend your own statements, except perhaps your own conscience, of course. If you can live with yourself by not defending your own statements, then it's no skin of our noses.
Happy New Year!
