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[denizaksulu]

An anniversary I cannot forget. Was it the beginning of the end of Cyprus as we knew it? Culminating in the split that occured in 1974 after the coup instigated by those that hated a united Cyprus. Where are we now? Are we closer to a solution? Time is surely running out.

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[Piratis]

So you mean you conveniently forgot dates such as 7th of June 1958 when TCs started to burn down the homes and shops of innocent Greek Cypriots, or the 12th of June 1958 that 8 Greek Cypriots were massacred after broadcasts from Turkey calling on the TCs to murder GCs and start a civil war?

The "split" dear Deniz was culminated since Ottoman times. After the Turks invaded our island butchering 10s of thousands of people they divided the population of Cyprus between Muslims with more rights and Christians who were second category people.

Just 80 years after the end of Ottoman rule, the TCs collaborated with the British colonialists in order to bring back such racist divisions which they imposed on Cyprus by means of brute force and blackmail with the 1960 agreements.

So stop trying to blame the GCs for the division, because division is created by the Turks, from day one when they invaded our island, until today when they insist on keeping the island divided along ethnic lines by means of ethnic cleansing and racist discriminations and segregation.

Even the events of 1963 were due to the insistence of TCs for racist discriminations on the expense of the majority of the Cypriot population. If they had not insisted on racist discriminations and segregation then there wouldn't be any troubles in 63.

[Gasman]

An anniversary I cannot forget. Was it the beginning of the end of Cyprus as we knew it? Culminating in the split that occured in 1974 after the coup instigated by those that hated a united Cyprus. Where are we now? Are we closer to a solution? Time is surely running out.
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Yet another thread where Horrorcall posts in more than one ID without revealing it (or where it's obvious it was a 'joke') as she insists 'everyone knows'.

There is a pattern - every thread I come across where she did this is where - in the first ID she is either discredited, asked an awkward question, or in some way cornered - appears to leave but obviously cannot stay away so signs in as someone else to continue! Must be very frustrating to continue to post but not be able to pick up where you left off.

Most forums have a rule against doing this.

[Piratis]

Gasman, this part of the forum is about the Cyprus Problem, not about you or any other member. Either post something relevant to the topic or don't post at all. This is not the place to discuss your insignificant personal issues.

[DT.]

An anniversary I cannot forget. Was it the beginning of the end of Cyprus as we knew it? Culminating in the split that occured in 1974 after the coup instigated by those that hated a united Cyprus. Where are we now? Are we closer to a solution? Time is surely running out.
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Yet another thread where Horrorcall posts in more than one ID without revealing it (or where it's obvious it was a 'joke') as she insists 'everyone knows'.

There is a pattern - every thread I come across where she did this is where - in the first ID she is either discredited, asked an awkward question, or in some way cornered - appears to leave but obviously cannot stay away so signs in as someone else to continue! Must be very frustrating to continue to post but not be able to pick up where you left off.

Most forums have a rule against doing this.

Hey Deniz I guess this is where all that knowledge of the Cyprus problem we've been talking about really come out. Gasman confusing you for oracle and the 21 December anniversary as gc propaganda

[denizaksulu]

So you mean you conveniently forgot dates such as 7th of June 1958 when TCs started to burn down the homes and shops of innocent Greek Cypriots, or the 12th of June 1958 that 8 Greek Cypriots were massacred after broadcasts from Turkey calling on the TCs to murder GCs and start a civil war?

The "split" dear Deniz was culminated since Ottoman times. After the Turks invaded our island butchering 10s of thousands of people they divided the population of Cyprus between Muslims with more rights and Christians who were second category people.

Just 80 years after the end of Ottoman rule, the TCs collaborated with the British colonialists in order to bring back such racist divisions which they imposed on Cyprus by means of brute force and blackmail with the 1960 agreements.

So stop trying to blame the GCs for the division, because division is created by the Turks, from day one when they invaded our island, until today when they insist on keeping the island divided along ethnic lines by means of ethnic cleansing and racist discriminations and segregation.

Even the events of 1963 were due to the insistence of TCs for racist discriminations on the expense of the majority of the Cypriot population. If they had not insisted on racist discriminations and segregation then there wouldn't be any troubles in 63.

Piratis, I said 'its an anniverssary I cannot forget' for personal reasons. I forget nothing including the 1958 events.

[Oracle]

An anniversary I cannot forget. Was it the beginning of the end of Cyprus as we knew it? Culminating in the split that occured in 1974 after the coup instigated by those that hated a united Cyprus. Where are we now? Are we closer to a solution? Time is surely running out.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... ember+1963

As Piratis pointed out, there are many significant anniversaries which manage to touch all the generations. This one I don't remember other than second-hand; but I do remember the chain of destructive events it unfolded and we all live its culmination. Looking at the bigger picture it is just one link in a long chain. All of those links part of an intricate plan for Turkey to take over where the Ottomans left off ...

(I thought we'd said all there was to say on this topic )

[denizaksulu]

An anniversary I cannot forget. Was it the beginning of the end of Cyprus as we knew it? Culminating in the split that occured in 1974 after the coup instigated by those that hated a united Cyprus. Where are we now? Are we closer to a solution? Time is surely running out.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... ember+1963

As Piratis pointed out, there are many significant anniversaries which manage to touch all the generations. This one I don't remember other than second-hand; but I do remember the chain of destructive events it unfolded and we all live its culmination. Looking at the bigger picture it is just one link in a long chain. All of those links part of an intricate plan for Turkey to take over where the Ottomans left off ...

(I thought we'd said all there was to say on this topic )

You are right my dear Oracle, all has been said that needed to be said, but what has been achieved. As the days pass the partitionists are achieving their goal. As I have said many times before, it is not only a faction of TCs that wish for partition also a chunk of GCs too; otherwise I think we would be closer to some solution which would be acceptable to the majority of Cypriots.

[Piratis]

Deniz, the GCs that want partition are a very small minority. If a unitary state with no kind of division or segregation is offered to GCs only a tiny fraction will reject such solution.

On the other hand it seems that the majority of TCs want as much division as possible. Some of them prefer a "clean" partition, while others prefer a disguised partition of Annan plan type (so they can have the benefits of EU) but very few of them want a truly united Cyprus.

A solution that would be acceptable for the majority of Cypriots is not hard at all to be achieved. But a majority of Cypriots is not good enough for Cyprus apparently (because this is what the foreign Imperialists who want to keep Cyprus divided decided) and instead what is required is separate majorities of GCs and TCs, something which is impossible to achieve since the TCs will not accept anything else than a form of partition.

[halil]

Messages were issued to pay tribute to martyrs who fought for the existence of the TC people. In his message, Acting President and the Speaker of the Republic’s Assembly Hasan Bozer said that a lasting solution to the Cyprus Problem passed through an agreement which acknowledged and safeguarded the existence of two equal sovereign sides in Cyprus, the political equality of the two peoples on the island, the principle of bi-zonality as well as Turkey’s active and effective guarantee. “We are marking in sorrow the 47th anniversary of the bloody attacks by the Greek-Greek Cypriot duo against the Turkish Cypriots” Bozer said, adding that the Turkish Cypriot Side was sincerely resuming talks with the Greek Cypriot Side with the aim of reaching a lasting settlement to the Cyprus Problem.

Issuing another message, Prime Minister İrsen Küçük underlined the need to derive lessons from the bitter experiences of the past and stressed the importance of taking firm steps when moving forward.
“The Turkish Cypriots who were exposed to years of pain and suffering during its difficult struggle for existence, never gave up hope. We faithfully continued our struggle with motherland Turkey’s endless support” the Premier said.
Küçük called on the people of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus to protect their state and their flag- the cause for which the heroic martyrs died for.