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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby BirKibrisli » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:41 am

Oracle wrote:Yeah, occupy yourself with "legitimizing" a crime.


Wanting to find a secure place to live in without fear of oppression and discrimination ,and worse,is not a crime...It is our duty to the future generation of TCs... :wink:
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Postby Oracle » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:43 am

Turkey sounds like your cup of tea ...
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Postby ZoC » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:48 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
ZoC wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:No different from those occupied by the GC Guard.


:lol: that's nice.... us see? apart from our international recognition and ur continued isolation, we've got so much in common. let's keep talking....


As Yfred used to say,you can take your 'international recognition' fold it in a cylindrical shape,and insert it somewhere suitable... :lol: :lol:


ok, i quite like ramming it down ur throat at every opportunity...:lol: :lol:

BirKibrisli wrote:If the world doesnt appreciate us,our Mother does...and that is all we need...

ur mama's insane, a drunk, a whore, dirty, lazy, argues with all her neighbours and nobody wants her. but wotever makes u happy.

BirKibrisli wrote:I am starting to feel moe and more liberated,more and more relaxed about my place in the world...Thank you GCs! And bless you EOKA fighters and ENOSIS worshipers...I feel like a newborn baby!!!!! :wink: :lol:


u need ur bottom slapped.
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Postby Piratis » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:14 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
Piratis wrote:This is not about which foreign invader ruled Cyprus, but about what Cyprus is. Foreign invaders come and go, this doesn't change who we are and what our island is - a Hellenic island. Nothing the foreign invaders will do can change this. The Turks will fail to destroy our heritage on our island just like all other foreign invaders before them failed.


It is all in your mind,Piratis...Hellenic Cyprus is a figment of your imagination...Cyprus is what it is...A piece of island inhabited by some seriously deluded people who think they can deny others their birthright.Try to be inclusive opposed to exclusive,compassionate instead of hateful,generous instead of parsimonious,and you will see where that will get you...Because the road you are on is a deadend! :wink:


Are the Greeks in Turkey denied their birthright?

I am inclusive, compassionate and generous to those who are also inclusive, compassionate and generous. Unfortunately you do not qualify.

What was ever inclusive with the Turkish demands? From the time they set their foot on Cyprus until today they always tried to discriminate and segregate people based on our religion or ethnicity.

When have the Turks/TCs been generous? They always wanted far more than what proportionately belongs to their 18% minority, on the expense of our human and democratic rights.

When have they been compassionate? We forgave you 300+ years of oppression, and we are willing to forgive you again for your second round of crimes against us, so we can leave the past behind and finally have in Cyprus a normal democratic country. On the other hand you want to make us "pay the price" for a problem which was mostly your creation and impose on Cyprus some divisive, racist, apartheid so called "solution".

As I said before: Start acting like a friendly fellow Cypriot and you will be treated as a fellow Cypriot. For as long as you are acting as our enemy, trying to take our lands and our human and democratic rights, you will be treated as an enemy and that is exactly what you deserve.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:26 am

ZoC wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
ZoC wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:No different from those occupied by the GC Guard.


:lol: that's nice.... us see? apart from our international recognition and ur continued isolation, we've got so much in common. let's keep talking....


As Yfred used to say,you can take your 'international recognition' fold it in a cylindrical shape,and insert it somewhere suitable... :lol: :lol:


ok, i quite like ramming it down ur throat at every opportunity...:lol: :lol:

BirKibrisli wrote:If the world doesnt appreciate us,our Mother does...and that is all we need...

ur mama's insane, a drunk, a whore, dirty, lazy, argues with all her neighbours and nobody wants her. but wotever makes u happy.

BirKibrisli wrote:I am starting to feel moe and more liberated,more and more relaxed about my place in the world...Thank you GCs! And bless you EOKA fighters and ENOSIS worshipers...I feel like a newborn baby!!!!! :wink: :lol:


u need ur bottom slapped.


Nobody's Mama are all those things you described...We only have one Mama and she is the most beautiful ,most decent,and most caring mama of them all... :lol:
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Postby Bananiot » Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:28 am

What are you talking about Piratis? You complain about solution plans that want to "segregate people based on our religion or ethnicity" and at the same time you want the TC's to be just a small minority within a Greek state, segregated on the basis of religion, ethinicity and language, if I may add, and probably culture. We can do this only after a victorious war against the Turks but you already know this and you have said many times that we should sit still and wait for the right circumstances to arrive and then hit them hard. In effect, you are calling Turkey for a pre-emptive strike against us at any point in time she feels threatened by us. Well done Piratis, your love of Cyprus is admirable. You remind me of the EOKA B' scums who were boasting that they would throw the Turkish army to the sea but when it came to the crunch, they retreated to Troodos.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:31 am

Piratis wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Piratis wrote:This is not about which foreign invader ruled Cyprus, but about what Cyprus is. Foreign invaders come and go, this doesn't change who we are and what our island is - a Hellenic island. Nothing the foreign invaders will do can change this. The Turks will fail to destroy our heritage on our island just like all other foreign invaders before them failed.


It is all in your mind,Piratis...Hellenic Cyprus is a figment of your imagination...Cyprus is what it is...A piece of island inhabited by some seriously deluded people who think they can deny others their birthright.Try to be inclusive opposed to exclusive,compassionate instead of hateful,generous instead of parsimonious,and you will see where that will get you...Because the road you are on is a deadend! :wink:


Are the Greeks in Turkey denied their birthright?

I am inclusive, compassionate and generous to those who are also inclusive, compassionate and generous. Unfortunately you do not qualify.

What was ever inclusive with the Turkish demands? From the time they set their foot on Cyprus until today they always tried to discriminate and segregate people based on our religion or ethnicity.

When have the Turks/TCs been generous? They always wanted far more than what proportionately belongs to their 18% minority, on the expense of our human and democratic rights.

When have they been compassionate? We forgave you 300+ years of oppression, and we are willing to forgive you again for your second round of crimes against us, so we can leave the past behind and finally have in Cyprus a normal democratic country. On the other hand you want to make us "pay the price" for a problem which was mostly your creation and impose on Cyprus some divisive, racist, apartheid so called "solution".

As I said before: Start acting like a friendly fellow Cypriot and you will be treated as a fellow Cypriot. For as long as you are acting as our enemy, trying to take our lands and our human and democratic rights, you will be treated as an enemy and that is exactly what you deserve.


On top of everything,you are an ingrate,Piratis...
If the Ottomans hadn't treated you with certain compassion and gave you the freedom to practice your language and religion,in those times where the Sultan's word was law,and there was nowhere to appeal,You would've been speaking Turkish and praying to Allah by now!!!Think about that and count your lucky stars... :roll:
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:24 pm

Bananiot wrote:...and at the same time you want the TC's to be just a small minority...

That’s like saying… “You want black people to be black!” :roll:

It’s not anyone’s choice that they are black or white just as it’s not anyone’s choice that TCs were/are a minority! It just so happens that they were/are so natural "consequences" follow.
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Postby Piratis » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:33 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
Piratis wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Piratis wrote:This is not about which foreign invader ruled Cyprus, but about what Cyprus is. Foreign invaders come and go, this doesn't change who we are and what our island is - a Hellenic island. Nothing the foreign invaders will do can change this. The Turks will fail to destroy our heritage on our island just like all other foreign invaders before them failed.


It is all in your mind,Piratis...Hellenic Cyprus is a figment of your imagination...Cyprus is what it is...A piece of island inhabited by some seriously deluded people who think they can deny others their birthright.Try to be inclusive opposed to exclusive,compassionate instead of hateful,generous instead of parsimonious,and you will see where that will get you...Because the road you are on is a deadend! :wink:


Are the Greeks in Turkey denied their birthright?

I am inclusive, compassionate and generous to those who are also inclusive, compassionate and generous. Unfortunately you do not qualify.

What was ever inclusive with the Turkish demands? From the time they set their foot on Cyprus until today they always tried to discriminate and segregate people based on our religion or ethnicity.

When have the Turks/TCs been generous? They always wanted far more than what proportionately belongs to their 18% minority, on the expense of our human and democratic rights.

When have they been compassionate? We forgave you 300+ years of oppression, and we are willing to forgive you again for your second round of crimes against us, so we can leave the past behind and finally have in Cyprus a normal democratic country. On the other hand you want to make us "pay the price" for a problem which was mostly your creation and impose on Cyprus some divisive, racist, apartheid so called "solution".

As I said before: Start acting like a friendly fellow Cypriot and you will be treated as a fellow Cypriot. For as long as you are acting as our enemy, trying to take our lands and our human and democratic rights, you will be treated as an enemy and that is exactly what you deserve.


On top of everything,you are an ingrate,Piratis...
If the Ottomans hadn't treated you with certain compassion and gave you the freedom to practice your language and religion,in those times where the Sultan's word was law,and there was nowhere to appeal,You would've been speaking Turkish and praying to Allah by now!!!Think about that and count your lucky stars... :roll:


The Ottomans killed 10s of thousands of Cypriots. How do you think your minority was created in Cyprus. They murdered real Cypriots and they imported Turks to replace them. They didn't kill everybody because they wanted to exploit the Cypriot people. Dead people don't pay taxes.

But don't worry, you will be treated in the same way that the Ottomans treated us, if thats what you want.
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Postby Piratis » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:46 pm

Bananiot wrote:What are you talking about Piratis? You complain about solution plans that want to "segregate people based on our religion or ethnicity" and at the same time you want the TC's to be just a small minority within a Greek state, segregated on the basis of religion, ethinicity and language, if I may add, and probably culture.


TCs are a small minority. I don't want them to be anything that they aren't already. Being an ethnic minority doesn't mean anything from what you said. Ethnic minorities exist in just about every country in the world and the members of such minorities in democratic countries are equal citizens, just like everybody else.

We can do this only after a victorious war against the Turks but you already know this and you have said many times that we should sit still and wait for the right circumstances to arrive and then hit them hard. In effect, you are calling Turkey for a pre-emptive strike against us at any point in time she feels threatened by us. Well done Piratis, your love of Cyprus is admirable. You remind me of the EOKA B' scums who were boasting that they would throw the Turkish army to the sea but when it came to the crunch, they retreated to Troodos.


After a victorious war against the Turks we can do a lot worst to them than make TCs equal Cypriot citizens. Bir for example would be very satisfied if we treated them in the way the Ottomans treated us.

Turkey today might have the power, but this will not always be the case.
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