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[Lit]

And you are far behind times regarding the Kurds...Nobody calls them Mountain turks any more...Turkey is in the process of solving her Kurdish problem...

Yeah, you stopped calling them mountain Turks last year. How slowly you evolve. Turkey has been in the process of solving her Kurdish issue for decades and oh look...today we read Kurds protesting, again, in the streets:

http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=203131

What Kurdish solution are you talking about and can we apply the same to the TCs? LOL

You know, if you were a mountain Turk spewing the same talking points about Kurdistan as you do with your beloved trnc...you'd be considered a terrorist in Turkey.

[BirKibrisli]

And you are far behind times regarding the Kurds...Nobody calls them Mountain turks any more...Turkey is in the process of solving her Kurdish problem...

Yeah, you stopped calling them mountain Turks last year. How slowly you evolve. Turkey has been in the process of solving her Kurdish issue for decades and oh look...today we read Kurds protesting, again, in the streets:

http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=203131

What Kurdish solution are you talking about and can we apply the same to the TCs? LOL

You know, if you were a mountain Turk spewing the same talking points about Kurdistan as you do with your beloved trnc...you'd be considered a terrorist in Turkey.

Better late than never...When are YOU going to stop calling yourselves Greeks,and insist Cyprus is a Greek island???? because until you do,we have no other option but to embrace our own ethnic roots...Guess where will that lead us???? And guess whose fault it would be????

[Lit]

And you are far behind times regarding the Kurds...Nobody calls them Mountain turks any more...Turkey is in the process of solving her Kurdish problem...

Yeah, you stopped calling them mountain Turks last year. How slowly you evolve. Turkey has been in the process of solving her Kurdish issue for decades and oh look...today we read Kurds protesting, again, in the streets:

http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=203131

What Kurdish solution are you talking about and can we apply the same to the TCs? LOL

You know, if you were a mountain Turk spewing the same talking points about Kurdistan as you do with your beloved trnc...you'd be considered a terrorist in Turkey.

Better late than never...When are YOU going to stop calling yourselves Greeks,and insist Cyprus is a Greek island???? because until you do,we have no other option but to embrace our own ethnic roots...Guess where will that lead us???? And guess whose fault it would be????

Stop telling us who we are and what to do....this is not the Ottoman empire. Furthermore, It was Turkey who pushed the Greek Cypriots all to one side of the island and now you complain that some call it a Greek island? Here is a clue...support a unified island and you can make the RoC truly multi-cultural.

[boulio]

Its great seeing both sides go around and around and around but to everyone here a few simple questions please;

If the G/C community is so wrong in the cyprus problem(im not claiming they are 100% angels)then why are her positions supported and cemented in the EU AND UN?

Why has the international community not overturned the Actual ROC with a security council resolution delaring the greek republic in the south null and void if it is responsible for this mess?

Why has kosovo is a mere 10 years have recognition from both EU AND un memebrs(wrongly in my opinion)and the "TRNC" ONLY have that of turkey?

Yesterday Southern Sudan which mirrors in religion and ethnicity cyprus vote nicley for independence and the t/c after 36 years cannot fly out of ercan let alone declare independence?

Do you see V/P,Bir,Bananoit there is something wrong with your points,thesis and arguments.I suggest you must try something else because what you have been doing the last 40 years is clearly not working.

[Piratis]

Your signature is on the document which wiped the slate clean, you fucked up big time and will never see a solution as you envisage it, this is the solution so make the best of it cause it aint gonna change.

That signature was extracted by means of blackmail and brute force and therefore no slate was wiped clean. The slate will be wiped clean when Cyprus will be liberated from foreign invaders and we will be satisfied with what we have in our own island. Until that happens don't expect from us to forget the crimes your committed and you continue to commit against us.

You know when Cyprus will be liberated,Piratis...????
When there is no one left who thinks Cyprus is a Greek island...Then we will all put it all behind us and learn to become good Cypriots,and try to undo the damage done by those who wanted to turn me into an alien,or second class citizen in my own country...Bring it on,the sooner the better...

So you mean how you "liberated" Constantinople and the north part of Cyprus with your "peace operation"? Or maybe how you also want to oppress the ethnic identity of the Kurds by calling them "Mountain Turks"?

You don't even want us to have the freedom to think what our own island is. And you call this "Liberation"? Is it enough to became "Crypto-Greeks" or "Linovamvaki", or you will employ the latest technologies to ensure that you manage to control our thoughts completely?

You are free to think whatever you like about Cyprus...as long as you don't think it is Greek!!!
Because that makes me an alien,an oppressed and despised minority in my own country...Fair enough????

And you are far behind times regarding the Kurds...Nobody calls them Mountain turks any more...Turkey is in the process of solving her Kurdish problem...Cypriots are nowhere near solving theirs,because they dont think they are Cypriots...Most think they are Greeks,and this forces the rest to think they are Turks...Hence no way out of our problem except through Partition...Partition you have worked so hard for so long to achieve...guess what? You might get there very soon...

The Turks call Constantinople and Smyrna "Turkish" don't they? Did they ask the Greek minority in Turkey if they agree with this?

Cyprus being Greek doesn't make you "alien,oppressed and despised minority", it just means that you are an ethnic minority, which is exactly what you are, nothing more and nothing less.

There are many ethnic minorities in Cyprus, and the only one which is despised is the Turkish one, because you are still trying to undemocratically impose your will on us ... now you even want to impose on us what we should think!

[Piratis]

Its great seeing both sides go around and around and around but to everyone here a few simple questions please;

If the G/C community is so wrong in the cyprus problem(im not claiming they are 100% angels)then why are her positions supported and cemented in the EU AND UN?

Why has the international community not overturned the Actual ROC with a security council resolution delaring the greek republic in the south null and void if it is responsible for this mess?

Why has kosovo is a mere 10 years have recognition from both EU AND un memebrs(wrongly in my opinion)and the "TRNC" ONLY have that of turkey?

Yesterday Southern Sudan which mirrors in religion and ethnicity cyprus vote nicley for independence and the t/c after 36 years cannot fly out of ercan let alone declare independence?

Do you see V/P,Bir,Bananoit there is something wrong with your points,thesis and arguments.I suggest you must try something else because what you have been doing the last 40 years is clearly not working.

Maybe that is because we are a regional super-power and everybody is trying to please us even though we are wrong? No, thats Turkey, not Cyprus.

Maybe it is because our politicians are super smart and have some superhuman abilities? According to Bananiot we have no clue about politics and we keep making one mistake after another, so that can't be the reason either.

Maybe because we have justice on our side, so much so that not even the biggest friends of Turkey can publicly deny our rights? Yes, thats the right answer.

[Bananiot]

Here are your answers, bulio:

The position of the GC's after 1974 was one that generated great sympathy worldwide. After all, Turkey invaded in order to restore constitutional order and not to permanently station her troops in Cyprus. Confronted with this, Turkey says that of course the troops will be withdrawn, as soon as a solution is found. For years we appeared as the side hard done by a neighbour bully, who avoided the issue of solution. We were quite good at persuading the world that Turkey was the intransigent part and quite rightly too. The EU made a giant stride in accepting us with the problem remaining unsolved. That was a huge favour done to the RoC. The TC's felt excluded from this process and did the unthinkable. They rose against their ethnarch (Denktash) but our side (Papadopoulos and AKEL and DIKO and others) told us that things are not as they seem but the TC's are merele playing the communication game of Turkey. To cut a long story short, the EU, the UN and all International Institutions, now have doubts, to say the least, that our side is the one that wants solution. Of course, when they say solution they do not mean the solution Piratis wants. The parameters of the solution are recorded in details and we all know what they entail. So, I cannot see how the positions of the RoC are supported and cemented in the EU nad the UN. That is your own conclusion which does not reflect reality.

Security Counsil resolutions that overturn republics are hard to find. I do not know from where you got this notion. What the UN mandate is, and we all support this, is for the two sides to arrive at an understanding through negotiations, that is the role of this Institution, to tread the middle ground, in conflicts such as this one.

Kossovo is an example we should avoid using unless we want to draw important lessons. Sudan also, can you not see the reasons?

[Piratis]

The TCs accepted the Annan plan because it was a partition plan that suited them. They didn't rose over anything.

Denktash himself was the one who started talking about Federation from the 60s. Denktash would ask for more and more and we would make more and more compromises (biggest mistake ever). During the referendum Denktash did what he was used in doing, ask for more, but obviously the TCs decided that after gaining 1000% of what they deserve it was time to "cash in" their earnings because they also wanted the gains from being part of EU, and the kind of partition that Denktash was after would not be as good for them as the one offered by Annan plan.

[Piratis]

And EU didn't make to us any favor. It was a condition of Greece that there would be no expansion without Cyprus.

[BirKibrisli]

And you are far behind times regarding the Kurds...Nobody calls them Mountain turks any more...Turkey is in the process of solving her Kurdish problem...

Yeah, you stopped calling them mountain Turks last year. How slowly you evolve. Turkey has been in the process of solving her Kurdish issue for decades and oh look...today we read Kurds protesting, again, in the streets:

http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=203131

What Kurdish solution are you talking about and can we apply the same to the TCs? LOL

You know, if you were a mountain Turk spewing the same talking points about Kurdistan as you do with your beloved trnc...you'd be considered a terrorist in Turkey.

Better late than never...When are YOU going to stop calling yourselves Greeks,and insist Cyprus is a Greek island???? because until you do,we have no other option but to embrace our own ethnic roots...Guess where will that lead us???? And guess whose fault it would be????

Stop telling us who we are and what to do....this is not the Ottoman empire. Furthermore, It was Turkey who pushed the Greek Cypriots all to one side of the island and now you complain that some call it a Greek island? Here is a clue...support a unified island and you can make the RoC truly multi-cultural.

The TCs have suffered a great deal as a result o your Enosis madness,which was the result of you insisting that you were Greeks. If you want to reunify our homeland,you will need to convince us you have learnt your lessons,and are prepared to put your greekness in the background...That is all I am saying...