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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:17 am

Piratis wrote:
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Piratis wrote:Viewpoint, enosis or no enosis, TCs are an ethnic minority in Cyprus. There is a problem in Cyprus because you continue to collaborate with foreign invaders in order to undermine our democratic rights and have gains on our expense.

Don't hope that we will ever give up and let you have such gains on our expense. You should either accept to get what proportionally belongs to you in a Cyprus where all Cypriots are equal without any racist discriminations, or else your dream of achieving a solution via ethnic cleansing and living separate from us in a Turkish state might come true, but not in the way you were hopping, and you will have only yourself to blame for this. Just remember that you were the one who choose "solutions" based on ethnic cleansing.


You are the ones rejecting compromise which is BBF with political equality and the whole world knows it. We would rather become part of Turkey than capitulate to GC "rights" to turn Cyprus into a Greek island so the TRNC is a great result for us we are willing to pay the price ten times over that be pushed into a unitary state with GCs at the helm and us under them as second class citizens.

We can share sovereignty and people can either accept compensation or repatriation where possible for their private property. Why do you GCs have problems sharing? let people decide which state they wish to reside in and lets make decision together for the better of the whole island, why do you need to take away my rights to say no to issues that will effect my state negatively or take away my security when you knwo we do not trust each other???

Lastly this island was never Greek and never will be the sooner you and people like you learn this the better it will be for everyone as all you do is perpetuate the mistakes of the past.


Cyprus is Greek and will remain Greek despite your constant efforts to de-Hellenize it. Your ethnic minority can have the same rights as the Greek minority has in Turkey. If you think such rights are not enough and would make you second category citizens then all you have to do is to give more rights to the Greek minority in Turkey, and you will get the same rights for your minority here. This is a perfectly fair solution without your usual double standards.

We have no problem with sharing, this problem is only yours, since you are trying to gain way more than your fair share on our expense. Your minority is just 18% of the population, but you want 30% of land and 50% of power. Be certain that sooner or later you will pay for your greed and arrogance.


The bold says it all and forces us to fight, keep, protect the TRNC and work closely with Turkey to make sure you Greek bastards never get the 37% back. The solution you envisage is one it will give you the free passage to hellenize and rule the whole island, no fucking way.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:17 am

There is no point trying to have a sensible argument with the likes of Piratis...We need to talk to them in the language they understand...

Cyprus is Turkish and will remain Turkish forever...The Turks/Ottomans were tricked out of their legal rights over Cyprus,and this should be corrected by returning 100% of Cyprus to Turkish rule...This will be inevitably achieved when the "balance of power " changes and the remaining 63% of Cyprus liberated from the Greeks...!!!!

There ,put that in your pipe and smoke it!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Piratis » Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:21 am

As if you are not trying to steal our lands for the last 400 years and you just decided to do this now :roll: Please don't bother telling us again that the Turks will continue trying to take away our lands and de-Hellenize our island because we already know this.

2/3rds of our island is now free from Turks now. It might take some more time to liberate the remaining 3rd, but make no mistake that your illegal occupation has an expiration date.
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Postby AEKTZIS » Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:22 am

@ Birkibisraeli,

that is a lie however, turkish population was never outnumbering the greek population in cyprus....when greeks wanted enosis, you wanted taksim....how does that imply cyprus is 100% turkey

i think you'll find it totally contradicts that view!
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:35 am

Piratis wrote:As if you are not trying to steal our lands for the last 400 years and you just decided to do this now :roll: Please don't bother telling us again that the Turks will continue trying to take away our lands and de-Hellenize our island because we already know this.

2/3rds of our island is now free from Turks now. It might take some more time to liberate the remaining 3rd, but make no mistake that your illegal occupation has an expiration date.


It will be as it always was,Piratis...The strong and the mighty will overcome the meak and the weak...The great Turkish army will again outshine the Greek army when the time is right...Cyprus must be returned to their rightful rulers,the Turks...Last time they made a biggg mistake by thinking that you Greeks will play the game by the rules..This time they will make no such mistakes...The whole of Cyprus will be liberated,the spirit of ENOSIS will be crushed once a for all,and the non existent Cypriot people will be forever bannished from the face of the earth...Long live the mighty Turkish army...forward all you braves...The victory is now in sight.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:38 am

AEKTZIS wrote:@ Birkibisraeli,

that is a lie however, turkish population was never outnumbering the greek population in cyprus....when greeks wanted enosis, you wanted taksim....how does that imply cyprus is 100% turkey

i think you'll find it totally contradicts that view!


Bite your tongue Aektzis...Turks never lie...I am a Turk..Hence I do not lie...If you dont bite your tongue,when the "balance of power" changes i will come and bite it for you personally...Forward the might Turkish nation...Long live Turanism...long live...oh...never mind you can complete the rest.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby AEKTZIS » Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:43 am

Turks never lie, do they? Get ready to "bite your tongue":

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Postby Lit » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:45 am

Piratis wrote:
Don't hope that we will ever give up and let you have such gains on our expense. You should either accept to get what proportionally belongs to you in a Cyprus where all Cypriots are equal without any racist discriminations, or else your dream of achieving a solution via ethnic cleansing and living separate from us in a Turkish state might come true, but not in the way you were hopping, and you will have only yourself to blame for this.


You got the separatists and their apologist friends all roweled up Piratis. Well done my brother. I hope you're having a great weekend. :wink:
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Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:52 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:Viewpoint, enosis or no enosis, TCs are an ethnic minority in Cyprus. There is a problem in Cyprus because you continue to collaborate with foreign invaders in order to undermine our democratic rights and have gains on our expense.

Don't hope that we will ever give up and let you have such gains on our expense. You should either accept to get what proportionally belongs to you in a Cyprus where all Cypriots are equal without any racist discriminations, or else your dream of achieving a solution via ethnic cleansing and living separate from us in a Turkish state might come true, but not in the way you were hopping, and you will have only yourself to blame for this. Just remember that you were the one who choose "solutions" based on ethnic cleansing.


You are the ones rejecting compromise which is BBF with political equality and the whole world knows it. We would rather become part of Turkey than capitulate to GC "rights" to turn Cyprus into a Greek island so the TRNC is a great result for us we are willing to pay the price ten times over that be pushed into a unitary state with GCs at the helm and us under them as second class citizens.

We can share sovereignty and people can either accept compensation or repatriation where possible for their private property. Why do you GCs have problems sharing? let people decide which state they wish to reside in and lets make decision together for the better of the whole island, why do you need to take away my rights to say no to issues that will effect my state negatively or take away my security when you knwo we do not trust each other???

Lastly this island was never Greek and never will be the sooner you and people like you learn this the better it will be for everyone as all you do is perpetuate the mistakes of the past.


...vp, i think you know my position on Bicommunality, (and Bizonality).
What prevents a Person as a Majority to have an Identity while as an Individual Represented within a State?

...what is wrong with National Assemblies? and enclaves; that these electors provide to a population island-wide.

...this island was never Greek, i would not agree; however if you said Cyprus was never Free, i would agree. Beyond the Nation as a State, States with Nations.

...dude!

...(re)read my manifesto.
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Postby Afroasiatis » Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:54 am

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Afroasiatis wrote:But I'd say, the greater danger today to local Cypriot identity in the South isn't any more so much the Greekification, but the Americanisation.

:? With the exception of McDonalds what else American do you see?


Well, I've never been in the USA to be able to judge this correctly, it's only a comparison with a picture of US I have in my mind. But my feeling is, practically anything, eating habits, language, way of moving around, shopping, human relationships, change through influence from the American model. This is happening of course everywhere in the world, but I feel that in Cyprus is stronger than average.

That's of course not always negative, but it is somehow sad..


This phenomenon is not any more in Cyprus than most other developed countries. This is perfectly normal. The Americans are the ones who create most technology today and the rest of the world should either copy them and keep up or stay behind.

This is nothing new. The achievements of the Greek Civilization were also copied a lot, just like the Greek Civilization copied from older civilizations. In a way the Greek civilization was the basis of the Western Civilization, and the American Civilization of today is a continuation of what the Greeks have started 1000s of years ago.

If every group had to re-invent everything by itself then humanity would not have progressed to the degree it did.


It's not about import of technology I'm speaking about..
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