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Postby Piratis » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:12 pm

Afroasiatis wrote:
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Afroasiatis wrote:But I'd say, the greater danger today to local Cypriot identity in the South isn't any more so much the Greekification, but the Americanisation.

:? With the exception of McDonalds what else American do you see?


Well, I've never been in the USA to be able to judge this correctly, it's only a comparison with a picture of US I have in my mind. But my feeling is, practically anything, eating habits, language, way of moving around, shopping, human relationships, change through influence from the American model. This is happening of course everywhere in the world, but I feel that in Cyprus is stronger than average.

That's of course not always negative, but it is somehow sad..


This phenomenon is not any more in Cyprus than most other developed countries. This is perfectly normal. The Americans are the ones who create most technology today and the rest of the world should either copy them and keep up or stay behind.

This is nothing new. The achievements of the Greek Civilization were also copied a lot, just like the Greek Civilization copied from older civilizations. In a way the Greek civilization was the basis of the Western Civilization, and the American Civilization of today is a continuation of what the Greeks have started 1000s of years ago.

If every group had to re-invent everything by itself then humanity would not have progressed to the degree it did.
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Postby Me Ed » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:22 pm

I think the problem is that certain individuals have probably been spending too much time being surrounded by Greeks/Turks that they have actually forgotten what a Cypriot actually is and what differentiats them from the Greeks and Turks.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:15 pm

Afro why do you bother Piratis still claims Cyprus is Greek and we are a minority. You cannot make any headway with a enosis remnant, all he has left is to wait for a swing in power but which way it will go even he cant comprehend.
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Postby B25 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:29 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Afro why do you bother Piratis still claims Cyprus is Greek and we are a minority. You cannot make any headway with a enosis remnant, all he has left is to wait for a swing in power but which way it will go even he cant comprehend.


You are a minority you stupid whore.

Typical you want to get fucked and get paid.

You use the 'Enosis' excuse to justify you stinking existance on this island. Piss off back to Fucking Mongolia where you belong, you will be much happier there and leave us peace loving GC alone.

And take you chums Bananiotoglu and Afrodisiac with you.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:33 pm

B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Afro why do you bother Piratis still claims Cyprus is Greek and we are a minority. You cannot make any headway with a enosis remnant, all he has left is to wait for a swing in power but which way it will go even he cant comprehend.


You are a minority you stupid whore.

Typical you want to get fucked and get paid.

You use the 'Enosis' excuse to justify you stinking existance on this island. Piss off back to Fucking Mongolia where you belong, you will be much happier there and leave us peace loving GC alone.

And take you chums Bananiotoglu and Afrodisiac with you.


Well you know that we aint going nowhere, get used to it or die, your only alternative is to join the enosis loving Piratis in waiting for that change of power that will never come your way.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:43 pm

B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Afro why do you bother Piratis still claims Cyprus is Greek and we are a minority. You cannot make any headway with a enosis remnant, all he has left is to wait for a swing in power but which way it will go even he cant comprehend.


You are a minority you stupid whore.

Typical you want to get fucked and get paid.

You use the 'Enosis' excuse to justify you stinking existance on this island. Piss off back to Fucking Mongolia where you belong, you will be much happier there and leave us peace loving GC alone.

And take you chums Bananiotoglu and Afrodisiac with you.


I can now understand Viewpoints view point - with posts like that.
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Postby Piratis » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:11 am

Viewpoint, enosis or no enosis, TCs are an ethnic minority in Cyprus. There is a problem in Cyprus because you continue to collaborate with foreign invaders in order to undermine our democratic rights and have gains on our expense.

Don't hope that we will ever give up and let you have such gains on our expense. You should either accept to get what proportionally belongs to you in a Cyprus where all Cypriots are equal without any racist discriminations, or else your dream of achieving a solution via ethnic cleansing and living separate from us in a Turkish state might come true, but not in the way you were hopping, and you will have only yourself to blame for this. Just remember that you were the one who choose "solutions" based on ethnic cleansing.
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Postby Piratis » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:14 am

By the way, did you know that Hitler invaded and occupied Czechoslovakia with the excuse of protecting the German minority of that country? Do you know what happened to that German minority after Czechoslovakia was liberated? I really hope we can find a true solution which will not be based on ethnic cleansing and racist discriminations, but it seems that this is the only kind of "solution" you will accept and you really don't give us many other options for liberating our lands.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:53 am

Piratis wrote:Viewpoint, enosis or no enosis, TCs are an ethnic minority in Cyprus. There is a problem in Cyprus because you continue to collaborate with foreign invaders in order to undermine our democratic rights and have gains on our expense.

Don't hope that we will ever give up and let you have such gains on our expense. You should either accept to get what proportionally belongs to you in a Cyprus where all Cypriots are equal without any racist discriminations, or else your dream of achieving a solution via ethnic cleansing and living separate from us in a Turkish state might come true, but not in the way you were hopping, and you will have only yourself to blame for this. Just remember that you were the one who choose "solutions" based on ethnic cleansing.


You are the ones rejecting compromise which is BBF with political equality and the whole world knows it. We would rather become part of Turkey than capitulate to GC "rights" to turn Cyprus into a Greek island so the TRNC is a great result for us we are willing to pay the price ten times over that be pushed into a unitary state with GCs at the helm and us under them as second class citizens.

We can share sovereignty and people can either accept compensation or repatriation where possible for their private property. Why do you GCs have problems sharing? let people decide which state they wish to reside in and lets make decision together for the better of the whole island, why do you need to take away my rights to say no to issues that will effect my state negatively or take away my security when you knwo we do not trust each other???

Lastly this island was never Greek and never will be the sooner you and people like you learn this the better it will be for everyone as all you do is perpetuate the mistakes of the past.
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Postby Piratis » Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:08 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:Viewpoint, enosis or no enosis, TCs are an ethnic minority in Cyprus. There is a problem in Cyprus because you continue to collaborate with foreign invaders in order to undermine our democratic rights and have gains on our expense.

Don't hope that we will ever give up and let you have such gains on our expense. You should either accept to get what proportionally belongs to you in a Cyprus where all Cypriots are equal without any racist discriminations, or else your dream of achieving a solution via ethnic cleansing and living separate from us in a Turkish state might come true, but not in the way you were hopping, and you will have only yourself to blame for this. Just remember that you were the one who choose "solutions" based on ethnic cleansing.


You are the ones rejecting compromise which is BBF with political equality and the whole world knows it. We would rather become part of Turkey than capitulate to GC "rights" to turn Cyprus into a Greek island so the TRNC is a great result for us we are willing to pay the price ten times over that be pushed into a unitary state with GCs at the helm and us under them as second class citizens.

We can share sovereignty and people can either accept compensation or repatriation where possible for their private property. Why do you GCs have problems sharing? let people decide which state they wish to reside in and lets make decision together for the better of the whole island, why do you need to take away my rights to say no to issues that will effect my state negatively or take away my security when you knwo we do not trust each other???

Lastly this island was never Greek and never will be the sooner you and people like you learn this the better it will be for everyone as all you do is perpetuate the mistakes of the past.


Cyprus is Greek and will remain Greek despite your constant efforts to de-Hellenize it. Your ethnic minority can have the same rights as the Greek minority has in Turkey. If you think such rights are not enough and would make you second category citizens then all you have to do is to give more rights to the Greek minority in Turkey, and you will get the same rights for your minority here. This is a perfectly fair solution without your usual double standards.

We have no problem with sharing, this problem is only yours, since you are trying to gain way more than your fair share on our expense. Your minority is just 18% of the population, but you want 30% of land and 50% of power. Be certain that sooner or later you will pay for your greed and arrogance.
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