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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby halil » Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:05 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:Sensible argument will cut no ice with some people,Deniz yegen...

You will just have to accept that once the Greeks touch anything,it will remaing Greek from there to eternity,no matter how and where and for how long history has marched on...It is by divine right..They are the chosen people...Hang on,that was the Jews,werent' they??? Oh,what the hell they can fight it out amongst themselves...We just have to bow to their eternal divine right to own all things they come in contact with... :lol: :lol:


Bir Gardash Fascist, rascist ELAM organization was in the streets of the Larnaca (last night). They were carring huge Greek flags and Symbols of the EOKA and shouting out '' Cyprus is Greek ''................ Talks are goes on under the shadows of these black dressed fascist organisation.... They are getting great support from the Church..... And we are hoping future of the Cyprus Gardash........... What future we can have with these lots...


here is the proved for you .................

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Postby Me Ed » Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:23 pm

halil wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:Sensible argument will cut no ice with some people,Deniz yegen...

You will just have to accept that once the Greeks touch anything,it will remaing Greek from there to eternity,no matter how and where and for how long history has marched on...It is by divine right..They are the chosen people...Hang on,that was the Jews,werent' they??? Oh,what the hell they can fight it out amongst themselves...We just have to bow to their eternal divine right to own all things they come in contact with... :lol: :lol:


Bir Gardash Fascist, rascist ELAM organization was in the streets of the Larnaca (last night). They were carring huge Greek flags and Symbols of the EOKA and shouting out '' Cyprus is Greek ''................ Talks are goes on under the shadows of these black dressed fascist organisation.... They are getting great support from the Church..... And we are hoping future of the Cyprus Gardash........... What future we can have with these lots...


here is the proved for you .................

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Although I don't agree with this mob, (I come from the "Cyprus is Cypriot" camp), these "boys" are carrying out what appears to be a peaceful protest.

On the other hand, Turkey has perpetrated the actual cultural destruction of the north and has altered the demographics of the north by importing hundreds of thousands of mainland Turks.

Which is worse?

Peaceful protest or the actual acts of ethnic cleansing?
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:57 pm

I cant see many supporters. Are they hiding? :evil:
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Postby lovernomore » Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:59 pm

Me Ed wrote:
halil wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:Sensible argument will cut no ice with some people,Deniz yegen...

You will just have to accept that once the Greeks touch anything,it will remaing Greek from there to eternity,no matter how and where and for how long history has marched on...It is by divine right..They are the chosen people...Hang on,that was the Jews,werent' they??? Oh,what the hell they can fight it out amongst themselves...We just have to bow to their eternal divine right to own all things they come in contact with... :lol: :lol:


Bir Gardash Fascist, rascist ELAM organization was in the streets of the Larnaca (last night). They were carring huge Greek flags and Symbols of the EOKA and shouting out '' Cyprus is Greek ''................ Talks are goes on under the shadows of these black dressed fascist organisation.... They are getting great support from the Church..... And we are hoping future of the Cyprus Gardash........... What future we can have with these lots...


here is the proved for you .................

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Although I don't agree with this mob, (I come from the "Cyprus is Cypriot" camp), these "boys" are carrying out what appears to be a peaceful protest.

On the other hand, Turkey has perpetrated the actual cultural destruction of the north and has altered the demographics of the north by importing hundreds of thousands of mainland Turks.

Which is worse?

Peaceful protest or the actual acts of ethnic cleansing?


So MrEd, as long as its a peaceful protest then its fine? How about all Cypriot paedophiles carrying out a "peaceful protest" next?
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Postby Me Ed » Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:11 pm

lovernomore wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
halil wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:Sensible argument will cut no ice with some people,Deniz yegen...

You will just have to accept that once the Greeks touch anything,it will remaing Greek from there to eternity,no matter how and where and for how long history has marched on...It is by divine right..They are the chosen people...Hang on,that was the Jews,werent' they??? Oh,what the hell they can fight it out amongst themselves...We just have to bow to their eternal divine right to own all things they come in contact with... :lol: :lol:


Bir Gardash Fascist, rascist ELAM organization was in the streets of the Larnaca (last night). They were carring huge Greek flags and Symbols of the EOKA and shouting out '' Cyprus is Greek ''................ Talks are goes on under the shadows of these black dressed fascist organisation.... They are getting great support from the Church..... And we are hoping future of the Cyprus Gardash........... What future we can have with these lots...


here is the proved for you .................

Image

Although I don't agree with this mob, (I come from the "Cyprus is Cypriot" camp), these "boys" are carrying out what appears to be a peaceful protest.

On the other hand, Turkey has perpetrated the actual cultural destruction of the north and has altered the demographics of the north by importing hundreds of thousands of mainland Turks.

Which is worse?

Peaceful protest or the actual acts of ethnic cleansing?


So MrEd, as long as its a peaceful protest then its fine? How about all Cypriot paedophiles carrying out a "peaceful protest" next?

That's an interesting moral question you ask there.

We are told that northern Cyprus is Turkish by our resident Turkish facist runaway almost on a daily basis.

There is also a small Turkish community in Kos that claim Kos is Turkish.

However, paedophillia is illegal in most countries, maybe you should ask President Abdullah Gül about that.
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Postby halil » Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:33 pm

denizaksulu wrote:I cant see many supporters. Are they hiding? :evil:


The Greek Cypriot Orthodox Church has expressed support to recent rise in racist attacks in South Cyprus.
The head of Greek Cypriot Orthodox Church, Archbishop Chrisostomos II has said that he sees eye to eye with the Greek Cypriot nationalist outfit ELAM (National People’s Front). ELAM which advocates a ‘Greek Cyprus’ – a racially homogeneous nation, and wants all foreigners to be summarily deported held a rally in Larnaka yesterday evening.



FAR-RIGHT GROUP ELAM APPLIES TO BECOME POLITICAL PARTY (Cyprus)
The nationalist movement ELAM (National People’s Front) is seeking to establish itself as a political party with a view to running in elections – perhaps even the coming parliamentary elections next May. As reported by Politis yesterday, ELAM has filed an application with the Interior Ministry so that its property and assets are deemed tax-free – an exemption which political parties are entitled to. The application was filed in late November. Lazaros Savvides, permanent secretary of the Interior Ministry, said a decision on the application should be made by next week. “If it satisfies all the criteria, there is no reason why it should not be accepted,” Savvides told the Mail. The above application is a formality and is separate from registering as a political party, for which other requirements apply – such as having an office in all the major towns or conducting operations in the various districts. The application was filed on ELAM’s behalf by European Party MP Rikkos Erotokritou in his capacity as a lawyer.

Politis yesterday attributed to Erotokritou suspicious motives, and in a double-entendre wondered how a member of one party could be promoting the establishment of a potentially rival political grouping. Later yesterday, the deputy released a statement through his law firm, stating he had no political relation whatsoever to ELAM and that his involvement in no way indicated that he shared the group’s views. Hitting back, he claimed the paper was distorting facts and urged the publication to set the record straight. Erotokritou attached to the statement a copy of an agreement with the Kurdistan Limassol District Office. The MP said his business association with Kurdish immigrants was proof enough that he did not see eye to eye with ELAM. Regardless of whether the application is approved or not, ELAM can still declare itself a party and run as such in elections – which is precisely what the movement plans to do. “We aim to run as a party in the upcoming parliamentary elections,” said Michalis Drakos, a member of ELAM’s Central Committee.

To win a seat in parliament, a candidate must garner 1/56 – or around 1.8 per cent – of the popular vote. ELAM actually ran in the last European elections, winning 663 votes, or 0.22 per cent. The self-professed nationalists, whose members don black T-shirts in demonstrations, deny they are a racist or chauvinist movement. They say they are against illegal immigrants, including asylum seekers living here on benefits paid for by taxpayers – but insist they have nothing against legal aliens. Besides advocating a ‘Greek Cyprus’, the outfit wants all illegal immigrants (“many of whom pose as asylum seekers”) on the island to be summarily deported. “Yes, we are worried about the demographics of our country. Today, there are currently some 200,000 foreigners living here,” Drakos said, temporarily blurring the distinction between legally and illegally residing foreigners. “We have nothing against people who reside here legally. They will stay here, and when their residency expires, they will be on their way back to their countries,” he noted.

ELAM are against a federation-based solution to the Cyprus problem, and want the crossing points with the north shut. Their bid to break into the mainstream of politics is linked to a desire to shed their image as a fringe extremist outfit. “We are here to stay…not just to emerge whenever there are elections,” said Drakos, explaining ELAM’s intended transformation into a fully-fledged party. “Our goal is to acquire a political role, and to provide a platform to people who disagree with conventional ideas – such as a federal solution for Cyprus – but who have nowhere to turn to now. “We want to be taken seriously,” added Drakos. Established in July 2008, the group currently counts some 800 registered members, and has offices in all the major towns, as well as an associated student organisation in Athens. In the municipal elections in Greece last November, the ultra-nationalist Greek group known as ‘Chrysi Avgi’ got a member elected to the Athens municipality.

According to the charter of ‘Chrysi Avgi’, “only Aryans by blood and Greeks by descent can be candidate members.” The charter also puts the leader in total control of the party, and formalises the use of the Roman salute for party members. Their emblem’s colour and design is eerily reminiscent of the Nazi swastika. ELAM member Petros Georgiou said their outfit has “friendly relations” with a number of nationalist parties in other countries, including ‘Chrysi Avgi’ in Greece and Italy’s Forza Nuova, as well as similar groups in Germany and Russia. Most of their members come from low-income groups, but ELAM’s ranks include people from all walks of life, including doctors and lawyers. And funding comes “from our own pockets,” Georgiou said.

Cyprus Mail


Archbishop: some truths, no matter how bitter, need to be said

ARCHBISHOP Chrysostomos II sees eye to eye with a nationalist group on many issues, pays lip service to ongoing reunification talks though he believes they are doomed, and claims that former President Tassos Papadopoulos did not bother to read the whole 2003 UN peace plan.

Those were some of the highlights of the Archbishop’s interview with online publication Kathimerini published over the weekend. In it, the Prelate was taken to task over his perceived political meddling and hardline views on the Cyprus problem.

But perhaps the most eye-catching part of the interview was his assertion that he identifies a great deal with the views of the nationalist outfit ELAM (National People’s Front).

“I find that many of ELAM’s views express me. And if they are against illegal immigrants, I dare to say that I, too, am against illegal immigrants. We cannot have all kinds of seeds here,” Chrysostomos said candidly.

It was not clear whether the Prelate had done his homework on the nationalist group, which advocates a ‘Greek Cyprus’ – a racially homogeneous nation, and wants all illegal aliens to be summarily deported.

The interviewer interjected, reminding Chrystostomos of ELAM’s motto: “Every foreigner equals one unemployed Greek.” The journalist observed that the group were apparently opposed to legally as well as illegally residing foreigners.

Chrysostomos defended ELAM, noting: “I don’t think that is the case. On the occasions that I had contact with these fellows, they struck me as educated guys, they care about their country and their views are crystal-clear.”

But in the same breath, Chrysostomos dismissed allegations that the premises housing the ELAM offices in Nicosia belong to the Church, which is said to be leasing the property free of charge.
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Postby Piratis » Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:39 pm

lovernomore wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
halil wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:Sensible argument will cut no ice with some people,Deniz yegen...

You will just have to accept that once the Greeks touch anything,it will remaing Greek from there to eternity,no matter how and where and for how long history has marched on...It is by divine right..They are the chosen people...Hang on,that was the Jews,werent' they??? Oh,what the hell they can fight it out amongst themselves...We just have to bow to their eternal divine right to own all things they come in contact with... :lol: :lol:


Bir Gardash Fascist, rascist ELAM organization was in the streets of the Larnaca (last night). They were carring huge Greek flags and Symbols of the EOKA and shouting out '' Cyprus is Greek ''................ Talks are goes on under the shadows of these black dressed fascist organisation.... They are getting great support from the Church..... And we are hoping future of the Cyprus Gardash........... What future we can have with these lots...


here is the proved for you .................

Image

Although I don't agree with this mob, (I come from the "Cyprus is Cypriot" camp), these "boys" are carrying out what appears to be a peaceful protest.

On the other hand, Turkey has perpetrated the actual cultural destruction of the north and has altered the demographics of the north by importing hundreds of thousands of mainland Turks.

Which is worse?

Peaceful protest or the actual acts of ethnic cleansing?


So MrEd, as long as its a peaceful protest then its fine? How about all Cypriot paedophiles carrying out a "peaceful protest" next?


Would it be better if those pedophiles were raping your children instead?

Even if those people said that they want to ethnically cleanse all TCs from Cyprus (and i doubt they supported this or anything else which is a crime - Cyprus can be Greek without violating a singe human right of the TC minority, therefore your comparison with pedophiles is not correct) there is still a huge difference between saying something and actually doing it.
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Postby Me Ed » Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:48 pm

Halil,

Do you understand the difference between legal and illegal immigration?

The clue is in the name.

You will find that every nation INCLUDING TURKEY has laws against ILLEGAL immigration.
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Postby lovernomore » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:45 pm

Piratis wrote:
lovernomore wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
halil wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:Sensible argument will cut no ice with some people,Deniz yegen...

You will just have to accept that once the Greeks touch anything,it will remaing Greek from there to eternity,no matter how and where and for how long history has marched on...It is by divine right..They are the chosen people...Hang on,that was the Jews,werent' they??? Oh,what the hell they can fight it out amongst themselves...We just have to bow to their eternal divine right to own all things they come in contact with... :lol: :lol:


Bir Gardash Fascist, rascist ELAM organization was in the streets of the Larnaca (last night). They were carring huge Greek flags and Symbols of the EOKA and shouting out '' Cyprus is Greek ''................ Talks are goes on under the shadows of these black dressed fascist organisation.... They are getting great support from the Church..... And we are hoping future of the Cyprus Gardash........... What future we can have with these lots...


here is the proved for you .................

Image

Although I don't agree with this mob, (I come from the "Cyprus is Cypriot" camp), these "boys" are carrying out what appears to be a peaceful protest.

On the other hand, Turkey has perpetrated the actual cultural destruction of the north and has altered the demographics of the north by importing hundreds of thousands of mainland Turks.

Which is worse?

Peaceful protest or the actual acts of ethnic cleansing?


So MrEd, as long as its a peaceful protest then its fine? How about all Cypriot paedophiles carrying out a "peaceful protest" next?


Would it be better if those pedophiles were raping your children instead?

Even if those people said that they want to ethnically cleanse all TCs from Cyprus (and i doubt they supported this or anything else which is a crime - Cyprus can be Greek without violating a singe human right of the TC minority, therefore your comparison with pedophiles is not correct) there is still a huge difference between saying something and actually doing it.


CYPRUS WAS NEVER GREEK NOR WILL IT EVER BE. If you disagree with this then you are MAD and should be locked up.
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Postby Piratis » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:57 pm

lovernomore wrote:
Piratis wrote:
lovernomore wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
halil wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:Sensible argument will cut no ice with some people,Deniz yegen...

You will just have to accept that once the Greeks touch anything,it will remaing Greek from there to eternity,no matter how and where and for how long history has marched on...It is by divine right..They are the chosen people...Hang on,that was the Jews,werent' they??? Oh,what the hell they can fight it out amongst themselves...We just have to bow to their eternal divine right to own all things they come in contact with... :lol: :lol:


Bir Gardash Fascist, rascist ELAM organization was in the streets of the Larnaca (last night). They were carring huge Greek flags and Symbols of the EOKA and shouting out '' Cyprus is Greek ''................ Talks are goes on under the shadows of these black dressed fascist organisation.... They are getting great support from the Church..... And we are hoping future of the Cyprus Gardash........... What future we can have with these lots...


here is the proved for you .................

Image

Although I don't agree with this mob, (I come from the "Cyprus is Cypriot" camp), these "boys" are carrying out what appears to be a peaceful protest.

On the other hand, Turkey has perpetrated the actual cultural destruction of the north and has altered the demographics of the north by importing hundreds of thousands of mainland Turks.

Which is worse?

Peaceful protest or the actual acts of ethnic cleansing?


So MrEd, as long as its a peaceful protest then its fine? How about all Cypriot paedophiles carrying out a "peaceful protest" next?


Would it be better if those pedophiles were raping your children instead?

Even if those people said that they want to ethnically cleanse all TCs from Cyprus (and i doubt they supported this or anything else which is a crime - Cyprus can be Greek without violating a singe human right of the TC minority, therefore your comparison with pedophiles is not correct) there is still a huge difference between saying something and actually doing it.


CYPRUS WAS NEVER GREEK NOR WILL IT EVER BE. If you disagree with this then you are MAD and should be locked up.


lovernomore, if you noticed I almost never respond to your posts. Thats is because your IQ is so low that usually I can't even be bothered to waste my time with the nonsense that you say.
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