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Postby Kikapu » Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:32 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:As most of you may already know, this is a special date for me, 21st December, 1963, because within a day or two of this date, I and 8 members of my immediate family were captured in Küçük Kaymakli along with few hundred other TCs by the GCs and were then sent to spend a week in captivity at the below "residence".! :evil:

And about 20 years later I was caught by the cops smooching with a girl in the school’s grounds and taken to a cop station where our parents had to come and collect us!

Same school… different uses! :?


Well, at least the girl went there with you willingly, but we were never given that choice.

I guess you could say that the "authorities" stopped anyone getting really "screwed" just in time there! :wink:
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Postby halil » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:11 pm

Shades of grey in 1963 film

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/features/sha ... m/20100523

TURKISH Cypriot director Dervish Zaim’s new film-in-the-making, Shadows and Shapes, is set to be his most controversial yet.

Set in 1963, the year in which the Cyprus Republic dissolved into ethnic violence, it follows the growing pains of Rusa, an adolescent girl from the Karpasia village of Komi Kebir.

But Istanbul-based Zaim says that ethnic conflict is only one of the film’s themes.

“It’s mainly a story about growing up,” Zaim told the Sunday Mail. “The conflict is in the background; it’s not the main theme”.

Nevertheless, the film’s promoters describe it as “a story that takes place as the events of 1963 unfold”, with Rusa and her shadow puppeteer father Veli separated as they flee their burning village. “The pain, the friendships, and the surrounding war casts a light on Cyprus’ story,” the promoters say.

Zaim says he set the film in 1963 “because in the almost 50 years that have passed since then, no one has made a film about that era”.

“Those times are like a forgotten memory,” he says.

In his own community, however, the “Bloody Christmas of 1963” and its aftermath is anything but a forgotten memory.

But as Zaim says, the film is not only, or even primarily about that.

“I believe it holds a universal message,” Zaim says. “It’s a message of peace, of growing together, of tolerance. In this sense it is not just a film about Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots.”

Naturally, Zaim cannot avoid the fact that he is making a film about a period of time that is remembered very differently by his community and Greek Cypriots. Nevertheless he insists that “as much as possible” he has “tried to stay faithful to historical events”.

Perhaps as a way of clarifying that he is not out to make a film about bad Greeks and oppressed Turks, the cast includes both Greek and Turkish Cypriot actors. Popi Avraam, among several other Greek Cypriot actors, plays a leading role as one of Rusa’s neighbours.

Zaim also insists he “tried to be as objective as possible” about what took place during the period covered by the film.

“There are no blacks or whites. People are always grey. No one is purely good or bad,” Zaim says, adding that the characters in the film were “both fictitious and created from people I have met or heard about”.

Zaim adds Shadows and Shapes to a growing list of acclaimed low-budget films that includes Somersault in a Coffin, Waiting for Paradise, Dot and Mud. Zaim also worked with Panikos Chrysanthou in the making of the controversial but widely acclaimed Akamas, a film that, because of the sensitivity that surrounds it, still has not been shown on Cypriot TV either side of the Green Line. Zaim says he hopes to see Shadow and Shapes, which will be in Greek and Turkish, in cinemas next year.
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Postby halil » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:17 pm

Candle-Light Vigil: 21st December 2010

Do you know your Cypriot history? Have you ever heard of Bloody Christmas 1963? No, we are not referring to any sectarian violence in Northern Ireland - actually this was the largely acknowledged prompt that saw serious violence erupt in Cyprus after Turkish Cypriots had their constitutional rights illegally taken away from them. In one fell swoop their status as equal citizens was violently taken from them. In the days that followed there are at least 133 known Turkish Cypriot civilians who were killed or are missing. Tomorrow sees a vigil taking place outside the Greek Cypriot High Commission to remember those who paid the ultimate price. Clearly both sides have suffered horribly. But it is time the Greek Cypriots adopted much more honesty about their 50th anniversary celebrations, as from where I am standing there is not much to celebrate for Turkish Cypriots.

Candle-light vigil details: Tuesday 21st December 2010, Starts 5pm outside the Greek Cypriot High Commission, St James Square. Ends 9.30.

There will be a 2 minute silence to honour our lost ones at 9pm. You are invited to take part in the 2-minute silence if you cannot visit the vigil to offer support to the vigil organisers.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:41 pm

What a pack of lies. It can only be the usual Turkish Propaganda! :roll:

Who thought up the slogan? Sounds like Zan's work. Are you going to fool anyone into sympathising because you are "Christian" now? 'Bloody Christmas'! Bloody Imperialist racist Muslims more like.

I don't think anyone will care for your 50-year old lies when the truth of what the Turk-TCs had planned, Neo-Ottoman Apartheid, is staring the EU in the face - today!

How do you square the ethnic cleansing you practice?

70 Million bloody belligerent Turks against 800,000 Christian EU-citizens. Ba ba humbug!
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Postby Me Ed » Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:41 pm

halil wrote:Candle-Light Vigil: 21st December 2010

Do you know your Cypriot history? Have you ever heard of Bloody Christmas 1963? No, we are not referring to any sectarian violence in Northern Ireland - actually this was the largely acknowledged prompt that saw serious violence erupt in Cyprus after Turkish Cypriots had their constitutional rights illegally taken away from them. In one fell swoop their status as equal citizens was violently taken from them. In the days that followed there are at least 133 known Turkish Cypriot civilians who were killed or are missing. Tomorrow sees a vigil taking place outside the Greek Cypriot High Commission to remember those who paid the ultimate price. Clearly both sides have suffered horribly. But it is time the Greek Cypriots adopted much more honesty about their 50th anniversary celebrations, as from where I am standing there is not much to celebrate for Turkish Cypriots.

Candle-light vigil details: Tuesday 21st December 2010, Starts 5pm outside the Greek Cypriot High Commission, St James Square. Ends 9.30.

There will be a 2 minute silence to honour our lost ones at 9pm. You are invited to take part in the 2-minute silence if you cannot visit the vigil to offer support to the vigil organisers.

Nor should we forget the TCs that after the Turkish plot to undermine the RoC attempted to broker peace between the communities had to either flee to the UK or were systematically slaughtered by Denktash and his TMT.
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Postby ZoC » Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:50 pm

halil wrote:Candle-Light Vigil: 21st December 2010

Do you know your Cypriot history? Have you ever heard of Bloody Christmas 1963? No, we are not referring to any sectarian violence in Northern Ireland - actually this was the largely acknowledged prompt that saw serious violence erupt in Cyprus after Turkish Cypriots had their constitutional rights illegally taken away from them. In one fell swoop their status as equal citizens was violently taken from them. In the days that followed there are at least 133 known Turkish Cypriot civilians who were killed or are missing. Tomorrow sees a vigil taking place outside the Greek Cypriot High Commission to remember those who paid the ultimate price. Clearly both sides have suffered horribly. But it is time the Greek Cypriots adopted much more honesty about their 50th anniversary celebrations, as from where I am standing there is not much to celebrate for Turkish Cypriots.

Candle-light vigil details: Tuesday 21st December 2010, Starts 5pm outside the Greek Cypriot High Commission, St James Square. Ends 9.30.

There will be a 2 minute silence to honour our lost ones at 9pm. You are invited to take part in the 2-minute silence if you cannot visit the vigil to offer support to the vigil organisers.


come on embargoed!... do us a favour. u can do much,much better than that!
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Postby Piratis » Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:19 am

Bananiot wrote:Piratis, stop the lies. Have you any idea what happened in Afania and Ashia in 1956? Why don't you make some research and tell us about it? Word of warning. This might burst your bubble, so be brave when you make your judgement.


Why don't you tell us Bananiot?

Did the Cypriots invade Turkey murdering 10s of thousands of Turks?

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted.


Or maybe the Cypriots denied to Turks their freedom by murdering their leadership and several 100s of people?

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.


Or maybe the Cypriots collaborated with foreign Imperialists and initiated a conflict by burning 10s of Turkish homes and shops and murdering 10s of Turks?



Please tell me Bananiot, what happened in 1956 that will somehow cancel the fact that we have been invaded by Turks who murdered 10s of thousands of Cypriots, oppressed us for centuries and just 80 years after the end of their oppressive rule they collaborated with foreign imperialists, attacked us (again), and helped the foreign Imperialists to deny to us our freedom (again) so they could have (yet again) Ottoman style privileges on the expense of the human and democratic rights of the majority of Cypriots?
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Postby B25 » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:00 am

Piratis, don't waste your time with Bababiotoglu, he is a turk, he will never understand.

He blames the GCs for all his ills, the Turks are his buddies and thats all that counts.

I am still waiting for him to tell me how 800,000+GCs = 50,000-TCs. And he demands equal power for them.
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Postby halil » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:54 pm

A candlelight vigil was held last night for the 133 victims of the 21st of December 1963 events that has gone down in history as ‘bloody Christmas’. Cyprus Turkish citizens living in London held the candlelight vigil outside the Greek Cypriot Embassy in Central London to protest the 47th anniversary of bloody attacks on the Turkish Cypriots by Greek Cypriots.

The vigil started at 5 pm and ended at 9 pm with a 2 minute silence observed in remembrance of the victims.

The human rights group “Embargoed!” organized the events, and pictures of the TC people who died during the ten day killing spree that was unleashed by Greek Cypriots were pasted up on the walls of the Embassy building.

Speaking to journalists during the event, Embargoes member Ismail Veli said “the reason why we are holding such a protest is to show the world that the Turkish Cypriot people had come under great attack on the 21st of December 1963. Although the world believes that the Cyprus issue began in 1974, this is in fact wrong. We are trying to show the world that the Greek Cypriot attacks started in 1963 and we are displaying pictures and documents proving this fact.”

Veli went on saying that the Greek Cypriots were constantly denying the existence of the TC peoples’ missing persons, something he added was unacceptable.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:08 pm

Hey Turk, with all the "information" ...

When is Turkey going to open-up on tracing the whereabouts of the missing >1,500 GCs she imprisoned/killed?
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