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[Viewpoint]

DTA Piratis is eoka mindset reborn so he will never understand us. I am gradually understanding that we have to deepen our roots and never give the TRNC as we cannot live or prosper w,th Gcs nor will we be 100% safe as we have seen they continue to make excuses.

[Piratis]

Piratis regardless of who started it in 55 and who started it is very much not clear from what you wrote. The first major casualties and complete escalation came in 63 and that was very much down to the gcs surely even you will admit that. The events in 63 also saw gcs trying to change an agreed constitution that was only 4 years old (and say what you want about the constitution- it was something that you leader signed and therefore should have honoured), when the high court said that they would rule In favour of the tcs yourleadership said it would ignore the court. You killed tcs, you broke the constitution, you broke our partnership that saw Cyprus independent for the first time in it's history (something you would never have achieved without the tcs- because without the tcs partnership in the 1960 constitution turkey would never agreed to Cyprus independence- yet you betrayed your partners to hand our country on a plate to foriegn power (ie Greece)

You are wrong. 100s of people were killed in 1958, it was one of the bloodiest years of the conflict. And not just GCs died, many of victims were TCs but your side doesn't want to publicize their deaths as they do with those killed in the 60s, because the fact that there was a conflict in the 50s doesn't suit their propaganda.

The fact is that the conflict started in the 50s. The British and the Turks/TCs collaborated and attacked the GCs in order to oppress the Cypriot revolution and they subsequently blackmailed Makarios and forced him to accept a constitution which was written by foreigners and was serving the interests of the foreigners who wrote it, and not those of the Cypriots people.

The TCs are a minority in Cyprus just like the Greek minority of Turkey. Anything beyond that was ill received gains you extracted by brute force and blackmail, and such gains on our expense will never be accepted by the Cypriot people.

[DTA]

DTA Piratis is eoka mindset reborn so he will never understand us. I am gradually understanding that we have to deepen our roots and never give the TRNC as we cannot live or prosper w,th Gcs nor will we be 100% safe as we have seen they continue to make excuses.

What I would like to know is this forum typical of the opinions of the gcs because if it is then I 100% agree

[Piratis]

DTA Piratis is eoka mindset reborn so he will never understand us. I am gradually understanding that we have to deepen our roots and never give the TRNC as we cannot live or prosper w,th Gcs nor will we be 100% safe as we have seen they continue to make excuses.

You don't have to live with GCs if you don't want to. We never asked you to come to our island to live with us, remember? You came uninvited to oppress us. Cyprus will be liberated either you like it or not, and if you don't want to live among other Cypriots but among Turks instead, then feel free to move back to Turkey.

[Viewpoint]

DTA Piratis is eoka mindset reborn so he will never understand us. I am gradually understanding that we have to deepen our roots and never give the TRNC as we cannot live or prosper w,th Gcs nor will we be 100% safe as we have seen they continue to make excuses.

What I would like to know is this forum typical of the opinions of the gcs because if it is then I 100% agree

You will find the majority will not speak up like Piratis but they support him with their silence, these people are even more dangerous as they do not come foward and will turn on us at the first opportunity at least with Piratis you know he is dangerous from the outset and you act accordingly.

[Viewpoint]

DTA Piratis is eoka mindset reborn so he will never understand us. I am gradually understanding that we have to deepen our roots and never give the TRNC as we cannot live or prosper w,th Gcs nor will we be 100% safe as we have seen they continue to make excuses.

You don't have to live with GCs if you don't want to. We never asked you to come to our island to live with us, remember? You came uninvited to oppress us. Cyprus will be liberated either you like it or not, and if you don't want to live among other Cypriots but among Turks instead, then feel free to move back to Turkey.

Get over yourself we are here to stay and here is where we belong. again the go back to Turkey shit Piratis why dnt you fuck off back to Greece as you wanted to turn cyprus into Greece at least we acknowledge that we have to share and you have the bigger part of the island.

TCs wake up this mindset they are trying to get us to capitulate by turning into a minority amongest GCsi we have rights and the world acknowledges this. So Piratis can go fuck himself in his 63% of the island and we will contniue to work closely with Turkey to improve the quality of life in the TRNC recognied or not.

[All4114All]

The Otto-Turks 'Subjugated' and still 'Subjugate' us, so we want to 'Liberate' Cyprus.

Then let us 'Librate' together equally both (G/C & T/C) to have a voice for the future of Cyprus as one.

I don't think the RoC would have a problem with the TCs helping the Liberation of Cyprus from Turkey. But the last time TCs had a chance to liberate Cyprus from the Colonialist Brits, they sided against GCs to create what we have now. What makes you think the TCs would fight against Turkey (which they consider closer) if they did not fight against the Brits?

I will not get involve in arguing why T/C joined the British Police Force that will be another topic we can discuss. So to answer your question, I am ready to librate Cyprus anytime with my citizen brothers and sisters in the South. But will only do so if you agree on these terms

Then let us 'Librate' together equally both (G/C & T/C) to have a voice for the future of Cyprus as one.

because I don't want to fight liberation if I get zero at the end. I can't answer for all T/C would they fight against Turkey but the average conversation around a BBQ does not revolve around 'I love Turkey Being Here' but yet at the same time they are our bloodline and security as much as we want to scream and shout.

[Piratis]

DTA Piratis is eoka mindset reborn so he will never understand us. I am gradually understanding that we have to deepen our roots and never give the TRNC as we cannot live or prosper w,th Gcs nor will we be 100% safe as we have seen they continue to make excuses.

You don't have to live with GCs if you don't want to. We never asked you to come to our island to live with us, remember? You came uninvited to oppress us. Cyprus will be liberated either you like it or not, and if you don't want to live among other Cypriots but among Turks instead, then feel free to move back to Turkey.

Get over yourself we are here to stay and here is where we belong. again the go back to Turkey shit Piratis why dnt you fuck off back to Greece as you wanted to turn cyprus into Greece at least we acknowledge that we have to share and you have the bigger part of the island.

TCs wake up this mindset they are trying to get us to capitulate by turning into a minority amongest GCsi we have rights and the world acknowledges this. So Piratis can go fuck himself in his 63% of the island and we will contniue to work closely with Turkey to improve the quality of life in the TRNC recognied or not.

Oh, so you belong here, but the 100s of thousands of Cypriots that you ethnically cleansed from the lands you illegally occupy do not belong to their own lands??

Cyprus is a Greek island and it has been so since the times your own ancestors were living in tents somewhere in Mongolia. Nobody asked you to came to Cyprus and live among us. So if you don't like us then it is you who should fuck off to where you came from.

[Oracle]

The Otto-Turks 'Subjugated' and still 'Subjugate' us, so we want to 'Liberate' Cyprus.

Then let us 'Librate' together equally both (G/C & T/C) to have a voice for the future of Cyprus as one.

I don't think the RoC would have a problem with the TCs helping the Liberation of Cyprus from Turkey. But the last time TCs had a chance to liberate Cyprus from the Colonialist Brits, they sided against GCs to create what we have now. What makes you think the TCs would fight against Turkey (which they consider closer) if they did not fight against the Brits?

I will not get involve in arguing why T/C joined the British Police Force that will be another topic we can discuss. So to answer your question, I am ready to librate Cyprus anytime with my citizen brothers and sisters in the South. But will only do so if you agree on these terms

Then let us 'Librate' together equally both (G/C & T/C) to have a voice for the future of Cyprus as one.

because I don't want to fight liberation if I get zero at the end. I can't answer for all T/C would they fight against Turkey but the average conversation around a BBQ does not revolve around 'I love Turkey Being Here' but yet at the same time they are our bloodline and security as much as we want to scream and shout.

You are not ready for Liberation if you are harking back to 'communities' sharing 50:50 at the expense of individuals. Your conditional demands for a privileged position are in conflict with Liberalism and a free Democracy for individual human beings. You are too close to Turkey. Such imperialist/fascistic conditions are anachronistic here in Cyprus. We fought against fascism in 1974. You did not help us then either.

Such mentality belongs in "Turkey". You should go back for your own and our (EU) peace.

[DTA]

Ok let's say the conflict started in the 50s and as you admit this was not just a one way street as both sides done wrong.

Fast forward to 63 the next major out break of trouble, could you answer these points that I have raised:

The events in 63 also saw gcs trying to change an agreed constitution that was only 4 years old (and say what you want about the constitution- it was something that you leader signed and therefore should have honoured), when the high court said that they would rule In favour of the tcs yourleadership said it would ignore the court. You killed tcs, you broke the constitution, you broke our partnership that saw Cyprus independent for the first time in it's history (something you would never have achieved without the tcs- because without the tcs partnership in the 1960 constitution turkey would never agreed to Cyprus independence- yet you betrayed your partners to hand our country on a plate to foriegn power (ie Greece)