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2011: "The Turkish Cypriot Year in Turkey"

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Postby Ethem » Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:15 pm

http://blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2010/1 ... e-dilemma/

no such thing as falls in turkey's economy....I quote "private sector investment soared by 34 per cent and private consumption rose 7.6 per cent. After separate data earlier this week showed a surge in industrial production at the start of the fourth quarter, some analysts think economic growth for 2010 as a whole could exceed 8 per cent"

for anyone who understands economics, please clarify for me....Is 8 per cent GROWTH a declining economy?

or are the worlds top businesses stupid? to increase private sector investment in turkey by 34 (THIRTY FOUR...WOW!!!) percent? and with consumption on the rise?
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:43 pm

Ethem wrote:Turkey was europes leading holiday destination in 2010...

Unsubstantiated rubbish! France is ALWAYS #1, followed by Italy, Britain, Spain, etc.

For the sake of Get Real (cos I know he will go on and on about credible evidence and research...and please dont forget I am a business analyst for a MNE travel firm):

To me you’re just another “Turkish Cypriot” idiot like so many before you that have come and gone who can’t get anything right, and this post is no different.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:46 pm

runaway wrote:So you have proved us fucking south shitriot lolatulip is a bloody liar. 8) Thanks.

No, he's just proven that his IQ multiplied by yours, almost equates that of a porcupine.
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Postby Ethem » Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:17 pm

GR, France has been the most visited destination in the world for many years...if you read the papers you will find out that this year it was Turkey who attracted the most tourists....France has higher visitors due to business and passengers in transit....http://www.cntraveller.com/magazine/rea ... wards-2010 you'll find france came in 10th position as a holiday destination
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Postby runaway » Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:21 pm

Get Real! wrote:
runaway wrote:So you have proved us fucking south shitriot lolatulip is a bloody liar. 8) Thanks.

No, he's just proven that his IQ multiplied by yours, almost equates that of a porcupine.


Fucking south shitriot lolatulip said Turkish Airlines faced record losses and it is proven out to be a lie. If I were you, I would shut up and mourn for bankrupt hell-ass loser south shitriot.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:35 pm

Ethem wrote:GR, France has been the most visited destination in the world for many years...if you read the papers you will find out that this year it was Turkey who attracted the most tourists....France has higher visitors due to business and passengers in transit....http://www.cntraveller.com/magazine/rea ... wards-2010 you'll find france came in 10th position as a holiday destination

But why do you lie?

Ethem wrote:Turkey was europes leading holiday destination in 2010...


Are they lies or are you just plain stupid?
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Postby Ethem » Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:37 pm

where did i lie? I don't see any evidence from you supporting your arguments
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Postby runaway » Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:40 pm

Ethem wrote:where did i lie? I don't see any evidence from you supporting your arguments


Tell him to compare no. of tourists visiting Türkiye and hell-ass and south shitrus. :wink:
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Postby lola-tulip » Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:47 pm

Hallo Ethem

Ethem wrote:Turkey was europes leading holiday destination in 2010...


I see you have not connected this call to the 'Cyprus Problem' but wished instead to diversiy to worldwide holiday markets. No problem. I think Get Real! might be onto it.

and anyone who has ever been to TRNC will see that the majority of the visitors are from Turkey, UK, and RoC funnily enough...


Why "RoC funnily enough"? Do you not expect the 180,000+ refugees and their families to wish to see their homelands?


For the sake of Get Real (cos I know he will go on and on about credible evidence and research...and please dont forget I am a business analyst for a MNE travel firm):
http://www.allbusiness.com/transportati ... 650-1.html


Get Real! is correct to demand such, but we are not all as able. Besides, no, I did not know you are a business analyst for any travel firm. How fortunate to stumble on one. :) What is MNE?

However, your source is rather vague. It says:

"Comparison figures for the same period last year were not given, but the airline said that its results were higher than expectations."

Surely it cannot be a full and unambiguous analysis in that case?

Turkish Airlines actually recorded a 3 quarter net profit of $169m USD, with a 39% increase on sales revenue, on just 22.7% increase in passenger numbers...This to me shows that THY have managed to add value to their services,


Did they not too long ago shed 51% of their company and are in fact a very small fleet? But you must know that, right? :)

Do they take into account over 20% of flights are internal?

Still, others I have encountered report:

"Turkish Airlines surprised investors by revealing a third-quarter loss on Thursday of USD22.7 million, related to fleet revaluations. "

http://www.centreforaviation.com/news/s ... loss/page1



"ISTANBUL, Nov 11 (Reuters) - Turkish Airlines (THYAO.IS) posted a surprise third-quarter loss on Thursday, with analysts saying fleet revaluation and rising jet fuel costs might be to blame after sales met forecasts and passenger numbers rose
."


http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKLDE6AA20G20101111

and a figure which will undoubtedly rise thanks to the new corporate advertising and sponsorship programs linked to Manchester United Football Club,


Oh there is something about Manchester U. F. Club on this bulletin about the TA losses:

http://www.bookcheapflightssale.com/tra ... lines.html

Lets also not forget that now as a member of Star Allianz they also provide one of the highest level service standards among the worlds carriers. In 2010 they won best southern europe airline and best onboard catering globally...not quite the gloomy picture you have all painted....RESEARCH & CREDIBLE EVIDENCE...lol sorry i couldnt help it...a joke for Get Real which I am sure he will visit this page :)


Thankyou for your forecast. I am sure as a travel agent business analyst you have been busy. :)

Would you move your sights away from Turkey as a beautiful and cheap country to visit for Greek and Roman remains and analyse why under these affluent Turkish conditions the GoT wish to entice more Turkish Cypriots Compatriots and recently 'emigrated' Anatolians to Turkey for their vacations?
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Postby runaway » Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:51 pm

lola-tulip wrote:Hallo Ethem

Ethem wrote:Turkey was europes leading holiday destination in 2010...


I see you have not connected this call to the 'Cyprus Problem' but wished instead to diversiy to worldwide holiday markets. No problem. I think Get Real! might be onto it.

and anyone who has ever been to TRNC will see that the majority of the visitors are from Turkey, UK, and RoC funnily enough...


Why "RoC funnily enough"? Do you not expect the 180,000+ refugees and their families to wish to see their homelands?


For the sake of Get Real (cos I know he will go on and on about credible evidence and research...and please dont forget I am a business analyst for a MNE travel firm):
http://www.allbusiness.com/transportati ... 650-1.html


Get Real! is correct to demand such, but we are not all as able. Besides, no, I did not know you are a business analyst for any travel firm. How fortunate to stumble on one. :) What is MNE?

However, your source is rather vague. It says:

"Comparison figures for the same period last year were not given, but the airline said that its results were higher than expectations."

Surely it cannot be a full and unambiguous analysis in that case?

Turkish Airlines actually recorded a 3 quarter net profit of $169m USD, with a 39% increase on sales revenue, on just 22.7% increase in passenger numbers...This to me shows that THY have managed to add value to their services,


Did they not too long ago shed 51% of their company and are in fact a very small fleet? But you must know that, right? :)

Do they take into account over 20% of flights are internal?

Still, others I have encountered report:

"Turkish Airlines surprised investors by revealing a third-quarter loss on Thursday of USD22.7 million, related to fleet revaluations. "

http://www.centreforaviation.com/news/s ... loss/page1



"ISTANBUL, Nov 11 (Reuters) - Turkish Airlines (THYAO.IS) posted a surprise third-quarter loss on Thursday, with analysts saying fleet revaluation and rising jet fuel costs might be to blame after sales met forecasts and passenger numbers rose
."


http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKLDE6AA20G20101111

and a figure which will undoubtedly rise thanks to the new corporate advertising and sponsorship programs linked to Manchester United Football Club,


Oh there is something about Manchester U. F. Club on this bulletin about the TA losses:

http://www.bookcheapflightssale.com/tra ... lines.html

Lets also not forget that now as a member of Star Allianz they also provide one of the highest level service standards among the worlds carriers. In 2010 they won best southern europe airline and best onboard catering globally...not quite the gloomy picture you have all painted....RESEARCH & CREDIBLE EVIDENCE...lol sorry i couldnt help it...a joke for Get Real which I am sure he will visit this page :)


Thankyou for your forecast. I am sure as a travel agent business analyst you have been busy. :)

Would you move your sights away from Turkey as a beautiful and cheap country to visit for Greek and Roman remains and analyse why under these affluent Turkish conditions the GoT wish to entice more Turkish Cypriots Compatriots and recently 'emigrated' Anatolians to Turkey for their vacations?


More and more lies from a fucking south shitriot....

http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-INT/p ... n-usd.aspx

Turkish Airlines 2010 9M Net Profit 169 Million USD...
12.11.2010

Turkish Airlines 2010 consolidated financial statements were reported to Istanbul Stock Exchange.

According to the reported financial statements, sales revenue increased by 39 percent to 5 Billion$. Approximately 79 percent of our scheduled service revenue was obtained from international lines and 21 percent was from domestic lines. 9M 2010 net profit and operating profit stood at 169 Million$ and 538 Million$ respectively.

Revenue Passenger Kilometer (RPK) increased by 22.7 percent and Available Seat Kilometer (ASK) increased by 17 percent. The number of passengers increased by 18 percent to 22 million, cargo and mail carried increased by 41 percent to 228 thousands. As a result, passenger load factor increased by 3.4 points from the previous year to 74.2 percent.

With the new wide body aircraft, which were started to join our fleet in September, we will be able to increase the business class segment which will increase the revenue yields. In the mean time we will be able to increase our cargo network in the long haul as well as cargo revenue because of the wide body aircraft.

2010 Financial and operational results, which are higher than our expectations, are a good indicator for us to achieve our 2011 growth target. Hence, we are eager to continue to apply our long term growth strategies without making any consession on our profits.

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