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[Ethem]

naturally...but like i said...I don't see a possibility for us

[All4114All]

You will not get anywhere talking to arteriosclerotics Ethem. Basically, their way of thinking is the reason we are in this mess. Our only hope, GC and TC alike, is a BBF where each community will be administering it own constituent state, within a Federal Cyprus.

I for one will want to see a united Cyprus but I also don’t believe a BBF solution is right for the Cyprus solution for a long time the words Bizonal, Bicommunal Federation is nicer to say than ‘apartheid’ (a system which was used in South Africa in the 1940’s) which is what it is all about. Sure it is the only solution we have on the table now to draw up but for the long term and stability of Cyprus we must think wisely before proceeding. Because it still talks about physical separation on the basis of peoples ethnicity there has been examples were it has failed (former federation in Czechoslovakia and the former Soviet Union).

[Ethem]

All4114All you forget the most obvious example of where it has failed...RoC in the 60's lol...to be honest i think everyone has to swallow the facts and accept that the only way is if we all give up a little and go back to the original constitution...although I'm not sure how the treaty of alliance will work...can you really see Greece and Turkey in an alliance together? me neither lol

[Get Real!]

You will not get anywhere talking to arteriosclerotics Ethem. Basically, their way of thinking is the reason we are in this mess. Our only hope, GC and TC alike, is a BBF where each community will be administering it own constituent state, within a Federal Cyprus.

I for one will want to see a united Cyprus but I also don’t believe a BBF solution is right for the Cyprus solution for a long time the words Bizonal, Bicommunal Federation is nicer to say than ‘apartheid’ (a system which was used in South Africa in the 1940’s) which is what it is all about. Sure it is the only solution we have on the table now to draw up but for the long term and stability of Cyprus we must think wisely before proceeding. Because it still talks about physical separation on the basis of peoples ethnicity there has been examples were it has failed (former federation in Czechoslovakia and the former Soviet Union).

You have at long last woken up... well done!

[Get Real!]

You will not get anywhere talking to arteriosclerotics Ethem. Basically, their way of thinking is the reason we are in this mess. Our only hope, GC and TC alike, is a BBF where each community will be administering it own constituent state, within a Federal Cyprus.

Says the most sclerotic of them all…

Btw, where were you the other day?

[Nikitas]

"there is no positive outcome for TC's...whoever we end up with, we're buggered either way because Turkey will only see us a minority, RoC will only see us as a minority, and the same for anyone really...hence the importance of a federal government with 2 semi-autonomous states...its the only way we can avoid a minority with very little say... "

Well, FINALLY at least one TC has seen the light. It only took a half a century.

The next step is to moderate the territorial demand so that the TC region will simply not have enough room for settlers, and also solve automatically the greater number of GC property claims and then we will be getting somewhere. Play Turkey's geopolitical bullshit game and we will get nowhere. The ball is in your court, always was.

[repulsewarrior]

i still propose the repopulation of the island by keeping the Green Line where it is and spotting the island with enclaves so that for some at least, they can return as communities. by defining Bizonal in this manner, National Assemblies can sustain an identity as Persons, having no Border, instead frontiers island wide. Furthermore it will oblige each Community to serve the needs of minorities within its electorate, if it is to sustain as a majority a reciprocal respect.

[Ethem]

very interesting idea repulse...i wonder if it may be a little too complicated for our government though...also, I think the frontiers would not help integration...one of the aspects of the annan plan I didn't like was that people were not freely allowed to live where they wanted to

[runaway]

very interesting idea repulse...i wonder if it may be a little too complicated for our government though...also, I think the frontiers would not help integration...one of the aspects of the annan plan I didn't like was that people were not freely allowed to live where they wanted to

Ethem do you seriously believe there is a possibility of integration? We have to get things right. We claim there are 2 equal communities and the enemy says TCs can only be a minority under their state.

[Ethem]

Runaway, there was integration for hundreds of years before so I don't see it as impossible but as you say, the two communities in my opinion must be equal for there not to be any advantage of one community over the other