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turkey always has a plan b, a plan c or d

Postby ZoC » Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:55 am

http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=67322


Bagis: Turkey ready for contingency over Cyprus issue

Turkey's chief negotiator for European Union accession talks has said his country was ready for any contingency over the Cyprus issue.

"Turkey is ready for any outcome that might emerge. A comprehensive solution, an indirect solution, a deadlock or a new crisis. Turkey's EU process do not hinge on Cyprus issue :lol: and Turkey does not take such threats well," Egemen Bagis told Greek Cypriot daily, Simerini.

Bagis said Turkey could only open its ports and harbors to Greek Cypriot vessels if the EU honored the promises it had made and taken simultaneous steps.

"We are ready to open our harbors and ports to Greek Cypriot vessels and planes. Is Europe ready for keeping its word and implement the resolutions it made? Is it ready to do direct trade with the Turkish Cypriots and land its planes at the Ercan Airport," Bagis told the daily.

Bagis said Turkey also had a contingency plan if ongoing settlement talks on Cyprus failed again. "Turkey always has a plan B, a plan C or D. We are ready for anything. Turkey has achieved a 11 percent economic growth rate. It has built roads, hospitals and schools. It increased its per capita income in the last eight years. And it made all these without the EU," he said.

Bagis said Turkey made significant progress on its path to becoming an EU member, adding that Europe had seen its credibility shaken because of failing to fulfill the commitments it had made for Turkey.


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nice to know turkey is ready for anything with so many clearly defined options.

don't worry, vp. if plan b doesn't work there's always plan c or plan d.... and i'm sure plan e and plan f are not far behind.
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Re: turkey always has a plan b, a plan c or d

Postby Kikapu » Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:09 am

ZoC wrote:http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=67322


Bagis: Turkey ready for contingency over Cyprus issue

Turkey's chief negotiator for European Union accession talks has said his country was ready for any contingency over the Cyprus issue.

"Turkey is ready for any outcome that might emerge. A comprehensive solution, an indirect solution, a deadlock or a new crisis. Turkey's EU process do not hinge on Cyprus issue :lol: and Turkey does not take such threats well," Egemen Bagis told Greek Cypriot daily, Simerini.

Bagis said Turkey could only open its ports and harbors to Greek Cypriot vessels if the EU honored the promises it had made and taken simultaneous steps.

"We are ready to open our harbors and ports to Greek Cypriot vessels and planes. Is Europe ready for keeping its word and implement the resolutions it made? Is it ready to do direct trade with the Turkish Cypriots and land its planes at the Ercan Airport," Bagis told the daily.

Bagis said Turkey also had a contingency plan if ongoing settlement talks on Cyprus failed again. "Turkey always has a plan B, a plan C or D. We are ready for anything. Turkey has achieved a 11 percent economic growth rate. It has built roads, hospitals and schools. It increased its per capita income in the last eight years. And it made all these without the EU," he said.

Bagis said Turkey made significant progress on its path to becoming an EU member, adding that Europe had seen its credibility shaken because of failing to fulfill the commitments it had made for Turkey.


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nice to know turkey is ready for anything with so many clearly defined options.

don't worry, vp. if plan b doesn't work there's always plan c or plan d.... and i'm sure plan e and plan f are not far behind.


Turkey has achieved a 11 percent economic growth rate. It has built roads, hospitals and schools. It increased its per capita income in the last eight years. And it made all these without the EU," he said.


Lets look at Turkey's "great" GDP economic growth rate achievements a little closer, adjusted for inflation, which Bagis does not mention in his bragging.! :roll:

If we are to accept Turkey into the EU based on the above numbers ONLY, then I think we should accept India into the EU before, or instead of Turkey.! :idea:

The EU has already told Turkey that without Cyprus problem solved, there is no EU for Turkey.! :roll:



Turkey GDP Growth Rate

The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in Turkey expanded at an annual rate of 1.1 percent in the third quarter of 2010 compared to the second quarter of 2010 . From 1998 until 2010, Turkey's average quarterly GDP Growth was 0.82 percent reaching an historical high of 6.69 percent in June of 2009 and a record low of -7.57 percent in March of 2009.


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India GDP Growth Rate

The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in India expanded at an annual rate of 8.90 percent in the third quarter of 2010. From 2004 until 2010, India's average quarterly GDP Growth was 8.37 percent reaching an historical high of 10.10 percent in September of 2006 and a record low of 5.50 percent in December of 2004.


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Re: turkey always has a plan b, a plan c or d

Postby Get Real! » Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:47 pm

ZoC wrote:turkey always has a plan b, a plan c or d

They’ve got many labels but they always point to the same course of action…

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Postby Ethem » Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:53 pm

I don't understand what you guys are complaining about? The guy has a point...If EU do not keep their promises why should Turkey? I don't think Turkey will do so badly without EU...As an analyst, I believe the world are in agreement that turkey is very much an emerging market with a growing skilled technical workforce, an improving constitutional and judicial system, and in times of economic crisis one of the few who have managed to pick up business as usual and make economic leaps forward...Something which can not be said about EU member states Portugal, Spain, Italy, Ireland, Greece, UK, France etc. etc.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:15 pm

Ethem wrote:I don't understand what you guys are complaining about? The guy has a point...If EU do not keep their promises why should Turkey?

Turkey has obligations under international law not "promises"... in fact there's no such thing as "EU promises"!

I don't think Turkey will do so badly without EU...As an analyst, I believe the world are in agreement that turkey is very much an emerging market with a growing skilled technical workforce, an improving constitutional and judicial system, and in times of economic crisis one of the few who have managed to pick up business as usual and make economic leaps forward...Something which can not be said about EU member states Portugal, Spain, Italy, Ireland, Greece, UK, France etc. etc.

You’re in a hurry to paint Turkey as a financial success when it seems like only yesterday (2000) when they were on the verge of financial collapse!
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Postby Ethem » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:24 pm

What international law? who will uphold these laws against Turkey? like international laws being upheld against Israel? Turkey are just like any other strong non world power...We can complain about their actions as much as we like but in the end no one can impose any real sanctions on them...this is no third world country we're talking about...the economies of many western powers rely on Turkey

yesterday being 2000, ten years ago, and since then tell me how the economy has recovered? we are seeing what we saw in China and India a just a few years ago (or yesterday as you like to put it)...what do you know about world economy and business? you make your own sorry little websites to complain about Turks and in the end who listens? who does it make a difference to? time you "GET REAL" son.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:29 pm

Ethem wrote:What international law? who will uphold these laws against Turkey? like international laws being upheld against Israel? Turkey are just like any other strong non world power...We can complain about their actions as much as we like but in the end no one can impose any real sanctions on them...this is no third world country we're talking about...the economies of many western powers rely on Turkey

yesterday being 2000, ten years ago, and since then tell me how the economy has recovered? we are seeing what we saw in China and India a just a few years ago (or yesterday as you like to put it)...what do you know about world economy and business? you make your own sorry little websites to complain about Turks and in the end who listens? who does it make a difference to? time you "GET REAL" son.

Turkey is just a 3rd world backwards Muslim country heading for all out Islamification and western fallout so stop drooling over bad rubbish! :lol:
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Postby Ethem » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:44 pm

dont talk without research and credible evidence :P nobody wants to hear it....lol

there's no such thing as islamification in Turkey....we're talking about a secular state here....how long do you think in to islamification it would take for the military to take charge again? it's happened before...it can happen again
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:47 pm

Ethem wrote:dont talk without research and credible evidence :P nobody wants to hear it....lol

there's no such thing as islamification in Turkey....we're talking about a secular state here....how long do you think in to islamification it would take for the military to take charge again? it's happened before...it can happen again

Man, you're just OUT of international politics… as clueless as a question mark! :lol:
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Postby Daniella » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:52 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Ethem wrote:I don't understand what you guys are complaining about? The guy has a point...If EU do not keep their promises why should Turkey?

Turkey has obligations under international law not "promises"... in fact there's no such thing as "EU promises"!

I don't think Turkey will do so badly without EU...As an analyst, I believe the world are in agreement that turkey is very much an emerging market with a growing skilled technical workforce, an improving constitutional and judicial system, and in times of economic crisis one of the few who have managed to pick up business as usual and make economic leaps forward...Something which can not be said about EU member states Portugal, Spain, Italy, Ireland, Greece, UK, France etc. etc.

You’re in a hurry to paint Turkey as a financial success when it seems like only yesterday (2000) when they were on the verge of financial collapse!



@ ethem : Could you give some reliable information about economic growth in Turkey?
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