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[Ethem]

GR, Islamification is a made-up theory of Nationalists to overthrow government....I know international politics very well...that's why I dont regurgitate whatever I hear on the news...like some

[Get Real!]

GR, Islamification is a made-up theory of Nationalists to overthrow government....I know international politics very well...that's why I dont regurgitate whatever I hear on the news...like some

Great, then immerse your self in…

Turkey’s secular Islamo-fascism

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=31227

[Ethem]

there's no such thing as Secular Islam-fascism....GR, Turkey's constitution written by the military clearly states that RELIGION MUST NOT BE A RULING FACTOR OF POLITICS....also, I draw your attention to AKP's lobby for lifting the headscarf ban at universities which was REJECTED by the constitutional court leading to a fine and almost got the party dissolved

I also draw your attention to the fact that whilst Turkish people are Muslim in majority, THERE IS NO OFFICIAL STATE RELIGION...also part of the constitution

[Kikapu]

I don't understand what you guys are complaining about? The guy has a point...If EU do not keep their promises why should Turkey? I don't think Turkey will do so badly without EU...As an analyst, I believe the world are in agreement that turkey is very much an emerging market with a growing skilled technical workforce, an improving constitutional and judicial system, and in times of economic crisis one of the few who have managed to pick up business as usual and make economic leaps forward...Something which can not be said about EU member states Portugal, Spain, Italy, Ireland, Greece, UK, France etc. etc.

If EU do not keep their promises why should Turkey?

Lets say for the sake of argument that the "EU" did make a promise to the TCs, regarding the 2004 referendum for them to do direct trader, even though this was most probably done by that idiot, Günter Verheugen on his own, how does that relate to anything regarding to Turkey's own promise to abide by the Ankara protocol that Turkey signed. The EU did not break any promises to Turkey, have they.?? No they haven't, and Turkey only uses the TCs as an excuse for her not to abide by the rules she herself signed and accepted.


Also, show us where the EU made any promises to the "trnc" for them to do any direct trade with the EU, because the TCs can do direct trade with the EU anytime they want, but only through the RoC.!

It wasn't the EU who had asked for Turkey to join the EU club, but rather it was Turkey who asked the EU to join the EU club. Just by who's rules should Turkey play by to join the EU club, hers or the EU's.???

Emerging (developing) markets can only go up, so what so new about that.? The point is, they are so far behind from the developed countries, it will take them few decades to catch up to the western standards of living or infrastructure. Sure Turkey is far more advanced than they were 30-40 years ago, but so is everyone else. Turkey, for a long time to come yet, they will be playing catch-up with the west, so lets not get too carried away with Turkey's own self-praised importance on her supposedly "economic achievements", because, most of the EU members have already "been there and have done that".!

[ZoC]

I don't understand what you guys are complaining about? The guy has a point...If EU do not keep their promises why should Turkey?

turkey doesn't have to. but eu won't continue accession. as an analyst, this should be simples for you, innit?

I don't think Turkey will do so badly without EU...

cool. is that plan b, c or d?

[Viewpoint]

Why is everyone so surprised the world still goes around without the EU and of course Turkey has other plans if the EU course ends.

Dont the GCs have any alternatives when their EU leverage goes up in smoke?

[ZoC]

Why is everyone so surprised the world still goes around without the EU and of course Turkey has other plans if the EU course ends.

Dont the GCs have any alternatives when their EU leverage goes up in smoke?

wot eu leverage? don't be such a traitor to turkey.

bagis: 'Turkey's EU process do not hinge on Cyprus issue'.... innit?

[Viewpoint]

Why is everyone so surprised the world still goes around without the EU and of course Turkey has other plans if the EU course ends.

Dont the GCs have any alternatives when their EU leverage goes up in smoke?

wot eu leverage? don't be such a traitor to turkey.

bagis: 'Turkey's EU process do not hinge on Cyprus issue'.... innit?

Why did you enter the EU? for EU leverage against Turkey, if Turkey closes it desire to join the club then out the window goes any leverage you think you have.

Who should we side with? you GCs? why? and what reason have you gven us to for us to do so.

[ZoC]

Why is everyone so surprised the world still goes around without the EU and of course Turkey has other plans if the EU course ends.

Dont the GCs have any alternatives when their EU leverage goes up in smoke?

wot eu leverage? don't be such a traitor to turkey.

bagis: 'Turkey's EU process do not hinge on Cyprus issue'.... innit?

Why did you enter the EU? for EU leverage against Turkey, if Turkey closes it desire to join the club then out the window goes any leverage you think you have.

bagis don't think cyprus has got any leverage against turkey so don't know wot ur talking about.

cyprus joined the eu so that the part of the island free from turkey's clutches could be less vulnerable to foreign invasion.

Who should we side with? you GCs? why? and what reason have you gven us to for us to do so.

u need a reason to side with cyprus rather than a foreign invader? u can see now why u've had to be interned pending the end of hostilities.

[Viewpoint]

ZoC

bagis don't think cyprus has got any leverage against turkey so don't know wot ur talking about.

Nor do you by the sound of things.

cyprus joined the eu so that the part of the island free from turkey's clutches could be less vulnerable to foreign invasion.

6 years on and still nothing must be telling you something, they dont give a fuck about you guys.

u need a reason to side with cyprus rather than a foreign invader? u can see now why u've had to be interned pending the end of hostilities.

Of course we need a reason,the "RoC" has never give us any reason to think they are anything but hostile and determined to convert us into minority status in a GC state, we will always side with those who we invited to help us against the bully being yourselves.