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Postby Get Real! » Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:02 pm

Ethem wrote:anyone looking at that picture can clearly see that this man in the picture is not 5'3 and 93Kg (proportionment of head to body)...I am 5'7 and 82Kg and much wider than this fellow...

And the point of comparing your physical stature with a cartoon is what exactly? :?
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Postby Cap » Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:46 pm

Its just a cartoon guys. I'm winding Bir up cos he's a tense character.
And if I've offended anybody... good. :lol:
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Postby Lit » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:52 pm

Taimur Abdulwahab al-Abdaly, 28, strapped an explosive belt to his chest and let off a car bomb in Stockholm on Saturday, killing himself and injuring two others. Officials said they thought he may have been aiming to attack a crowded train station or department store but the device around his body had gone off prematurely.

His wife Mona Thwany, also 28, who runs a mobile beauty business from their semi-detached Luton home, today said she had no clue to his plans.

Three weeks prior to the attack, Abdulwahab vanished from the terrace-property giving no explanation to his wife and three young children.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... -life.html
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Postby ZoC » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:41 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
ZoC wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
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BirKibrisli wrote:I object to the heading of this thread...When the IRA wsa bombing and killling military and civilian targets alike,would you have said 'WELCOME TO VATICAN'...No,because you are a hypocrit,and an Islamophobic bigot...

Organised religion is not my cup of tea,but you have to respect a religion which has 1.5 billion followers worldwide...


why? i bet just as many people believe in horoscopes worldwide. i don't respect that superstition either.

BirKibrisli wrote:All but a few thousand of them decent,Godfearing,peaceful souls... :roll:


sure. but i don't have to respect their religion. and i don't.


That makes you an ignorant,intolerant,irrepressible bigot...happy to live with that tag??? :D


not at all. and ur an idiot for drawing that conclusion. irrational beliefs can be incredibly dangerous and should be treated with healthy cynicism if not contempt; not respected, simply because the number of those deluded is large.


As long as you have the same opinion on the Greek Orthodox Church and other Christian denominations,you would have that right...Why is one group's delusions more respectable than others'???


yes... and i got the same opinion on those who believe there's a china teapot revolving between the earth and mars in an elliptical orbit. wot is this? hypocracy is not something ur gonna catch me out on, birki.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:49 am

Take your pick boys... was it British or American terrorists this time?

Yup... it's another false flag! :lol:


Military staffer knew about attacks

http://www.thelocal.se/30794/20101212/



From the same link…

Sweden bomber 'friendly' immigrant turned radical

“The man suspected of being the suicide bomber behind two Stockholm bombings on Saturday was described on Monday as an ordinary friendly young immigrant to Sweden who drastically changed after moving to the UK to study. “


A few encounters with the MI5 and the friendly guy was ready for action! :wink:
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Postby Lit » Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:32 am

Get Real! wrote:Take your pick boys... was it British or American terrorists this time?

Yup... it's another false flag! :lol:


You've become the biggest joke of this forum. LOL
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Postby BirKibrisli » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:46 pm

ZoC wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
ZoC wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
ZoC wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:I object to the heading of this thread...When the IRA wsa bombing and killling military and civilian targets alike,would you have said 'WELCOME TO VATICAN'...No,because you are a hypocrit,and an Islamophobic bigot...

Organised religion is not my cup of tea,but you have to respect a religion which has 1.5 billion followers worldwide...


why? i bet just as many people believe in horoscopes worldwide. i don't respect that superstition either.

BirKibrisli wrote:All but a few thousand of them decent,Godfearing,peaceful souls... :roll:


sure. but i don't have to respect their religion. and i don't.


That makes you an ignorant,intolerant,irrepressible bigot...happy to live with that tag??? :D


not at all. and ur an idiot for drawing that conclusion. irrational beliefs can be incredibly dangerous and should be treated with healthy cynicism if not contempt; not respected, simply because the number of those deluded is large.


As long as you have the same opinion on the Greek Orthodox Church and other Christian denominations,you would have that right...Why is one group's delusions more respectable than others'???


yes... and i got the same opinion on those who believe there's a china teapot revolving between the earth and mars in an elliptical orbit. wot is this? hypocracy is not something ur gonna catch me out on, birki.


Still,a lot of people's lives and values are based on their religious beliefs,so I believe we should respect that,and not try to impose our more "enlightened" opinions on them...That doesn't mean we should tolerate any acts we consider barbaric in this day and age, which they use their religion to justify...Blanket condemnation of all religions would make us as small-minded and intolerant as those whose faith-based actions we condemn...
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Postby Ethem » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:54 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Ethem wrote:anyone looking at that picture can clearly see that this man in the picture is not 5'3 and 93Kg (proportionment of head to body)...I am 5'7 and 82Kg and much wider than this fellow...

And the point of comparing your physical stature with a cartoon is what exactly? :?


its not a cartoon...its an actual picture...and that my friend is no picture of a man that is 5'3 and 93kg
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Postby Daniella » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:54 pm

'Premature explosion'
Tomas Lindstrand, Sweden's chief prosecutor, said the attacker could have been aiming to attack the main train station or a department store when the device went off prematurely.

"It is not a very wild guess that he was headed to some place where there were as many people as possible, perhaps the central station, perhaps [department store] Ahlens," he said.

Lindstrand added that the attacker was carrying a large amount of explosives, wearing a bomb belt and a rucksack with a bomb.

"He was also carrying an object that looks something like a pressure cooker. If it had all exploded at the same time it could have caused very serious damage."

A car containing gas canisters blew up in a busy shopping area on Saturday afternoon followed minutes later by a blast nearby which killed the bomber and injured two people.

Lindstrand said the man had been "98 per cent identified" as Taimour Abdulwahab al Abdaly, a Swedish citizen believed to have arrived from Iraq in 1992, and most recently lived in Britain.

But that man could not yet be named with certainty because DNA tests had not been performed and the family had not identified the body, he said.

Shumukh al-Islam, a pro al-Qaeda website, had also named the 28-year-old as the man responsible for the explosions.


British connection
British police searched a property in southeast England overnight on Sunday, thought to be the house where Al Abdaly had lived with his wife and three children.

"No arrests have been made and no hazardous materials found," London's Metropolitan Police said in a statement on Monday.

Neighbours told reporters they had seen the suspect at the house in Luton, 50km north of London, two weeks ago.

"I used to see him around often. He didn't say much but seemed nice. I used to see him walking with his kids," Tahir Hussain, a taxi driver in the town, said.

Reports have also emerged that Al Abdaly had left a local mosque after being challenged for his radical beliefs.

Farasat Latif, secretary of the Luton Islamic Centre in Britain, said he had attended the centre "for a couple of months" in 2006 or .

Latif told the AP news agency that Al Abdaly was "very friendly" at first but then started to preach radical ideas, which focused on "suicide bombings, pronouncing Muslim leaders to be disbelievers, denouncing Muslim governments".

But said "nothing pointed to the fact that he was going to do something stupid".
Al Abdaly studied sports therapy at the University of Bedfordshire in Luton, graduating with a degree in 2004.


Source : http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europ ... 95476.html
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Postby ZoC » Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:26 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
ZoC wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
ZoC wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
ZoC wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:I object to the heading of this thread...When the IRA wsa bombing and killling military and civilian targets alike,would you have said 'WELCOME TO VATICAN'...No,because you are a hypocrit,and an Islamophobic bigot...

Organised religion is not my cup of tea,but you have to respect a religion which has 1.5 billion followers worldwide...


why? i bet just as many people believe in horoscopes worldwide. i don't respect that superstition either.

BirKibrisli wrote:All but a few thousand of them decent,Godfearing,peaceful souls... :roll:


sure. but i don't have to respect their religion. and i don't.


That makes you an ignorant,intolerant,irrepressible bigot...happy to live with that tag??? :D


not at all. and ur an idiot for drawing that conclusion. irrational beliefs can be incredibly dangerous and should be treated with healthy cynicism if not contempt; not respected, simply because the number of those deluded is large.


As long as you have the same opinion on the Greek Orthodox Church and other Christian denominations,you would have that right...Why is one group's delusions more respectable than others'???


yes... and i got the same opinion on those who believe there's a china teapot revolving between the earth and mars in an elliptical orbit. wot is this? hypocracy is not something ur gonna catch me out on, birki.


Still,a lot of people's lives and values are based on their religious beliefs,so I believe we should respect that,and not try to impose our more "enlightened" opinions on them...


so what's to respect? people who only have values the priest spoon fed them? who only do the right thing because they fear god and don't want to go to hell?

BirKibrisli wrote:That doesn't mean we should tolerate any acts we consider barbaric in this day and age, which they use their religion to justify...Blanket condemnation of all religions would make us as small-minded and intolerant as those whose faith-based actions we condemn...


"blanket condemnation" is not the same as "not having respect". so don't be small minded and put words in my mouth - just because u know u've lost an argument.

i wouldn't condemn, for example, people who think there's an invisible pink giraffe called Gerry at the end of the garden, that sometimes makes things go all right, but often doesn't, 'cos Gerry works in mysterious ways. I'd pity them.
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