by Viewpoint » Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:55 pm
paliometoxo wrote:ah yes the bannana plan.... no thank you plus it should not have to be accepted by us its a law from the un get out of cyprus..
by paliometoxo » Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:58 pm
by Viewpoint » Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:03 pm
paliometoxo wrote:exactly which means you dont care what the UN wants which means its another law you decide to ignore. but when its bbf and something you want your so quick to try enforce it and have it happen in cyprus...
how many tc army men do you have?
our army does not hold cyprus hostage... bloody hypocrite
by paliometoxo » Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:14 pm
by Viewpoint » Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:28 pm
even if you asked them to leave they will tell you where to go, its really not up to the tcs what happens...
how do you come up with 63% of your island? the invaders that blew themselves up so they have a excuse to invade...blame your mumma turkey for that. you gave us the only recognition by your own stupid actions and took recognition for your own gains to try make two states and your plan is failing you make it so far but now your stuck and your blaming us for your own failed plans...
the Un mentions nothing of going after they have been telling you to leave since you arrived. your so quick to try disable our army and try block un from being in cyprus then you say the TA will never leave, so what your doing is the exact same as us only we are legally here in cyprus and the UN has not been calling us to get out..
and you still even with out a TA army of 40,000 have more army then us made up of tcs as all males are going any way...
you came to cyprus forced the catholics out then tried to force us out and take control. and just as we managed to kick out the british we will kick out the turks
by paliometoxo » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:16 pm
Now you are being stupid with a signed international solution that state the TA leave do you think they will not go? please how old are you?
Dont you have 63% of this island, if it belongs to all of us as you GCs claim then you have 63% of my island and I have 37%, why is that so hard to understand? So you never wanted enosis please make up your mind why was there a coup and sampson was going to slaughter all the TCs?? You stole recognition not in 1974 but in 193 well before the TA arrived and the BBF arrived as middle ground you wanted to give the whole of Cyprus to Greece and we wanted to share by Taksim, BBF is the middle ground we are still negotiating and while that happens the island can and will stay as it is.
Why do you want to weaken our stand by getting rid of the TA and keeping your own? should we feel safe with a GC army? Now i know you are being stupid.
No you have 100.000 armed reservists and 20.000 armed soldiers isnt that larger than 40.000 armed soldiers? who are you fooling?
you came to cyprus forced the catholics out then tried to force us out and take control. and just as we managed to kick out the british we will kick out the turks
by Viewpoint » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:59 pm
not at all how long ago was it that there was a bunch of tcs telling ta to go home? and what happened to them? maybe you will say the majority dont even though the majority of you are mainland turks but the point is they will ignore you... being stupid? i think realistic your the stupid one if you think the ta will listen to you.
your the minority get over it... its not hard to understand just a bunch of crying babies because you couldent by force become the majority and take whats not yours.. you own lots of land so in a way it is ours.. the two majorities on the island is tc and gc...
why dont you take this logic to turkey and give the kurds 50% say and their own state that they are trying to have yet you say in un acceptable...
and you will be waiting a long time because bbf will never happen..
its not about making you weak why dont you understand this? its about ending occupation of cyprus... you still have your tc army men in the hundreds of thousands
and you have an 80 million population in less distance then it takes me to drive to pafos from nicosia.. to LIMASSOL even!! how long would it take to come here? 5 seconds
and can you really blame us? after your piss operation where you raped little girls and forced us into the south for peace.. that was nice how you followed the rules there restoring order... and the fact even the gcs where fighting the minority that wanted enosis.. but any way thats another story.. of course we need to be armed!!
just liek your dream of taking cyprus from us.. dream on !!
by paliometoxo » Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:15 pm
Why on earth would we want them to go home?we still do not trust you and they are needed as a deterrent to keep you people in check otherwise you would all be running amok in the north and fighting would break out, they have kept the peace for over 36 years.
They will only go when we agree a solution not before why do you have a problem understanding this very basic fact?
Hello this is where you go wrong and why we will never be forced into minority status where GCs can use their numbers to our detrrement, get this into your head we are equal partners and if we all own Cyprus then we to have just as much right to it as you do, thats why sharing is the best policy, we couldnt manage this all mixed together so the next best thing is side by side which has worked for the last 36 years all we have to do is agree the framework of how we will marry the 2 together and move forward but it appears you people do not want a sharing deal you want to take control fo the whole island and reduce to minority status left to your mercy, well buddy aint gonna happen we will never let it, its about time you woke up this fact and understood that you have to share equally.
I dont live in Turkey nor am I a Kurd they can fight their own battles I have enough on my own plate.
So your leaders are lieing to the world?
We do not have such a big TC army, and you determination to get rid of the TA before we agree a solution reeks of weakening our security in order to shit all over us again like you did in the past, we would be very stupid to send them packing it would be like surrendering to the enemy.
It took Turkey 11 years to intervene last time and you think with the EU they could just pop back when they wanted, please give us more credit than that, we may be many things but we are not stupid. you give us absolutely no reason of confidence to get rid of the army so arguing this point is pretty pointless.
Its was a full scale war, you tried to kill us and we fought back unfortunately shit happens during war the are plenty of far worse examples all over the world this was no different. If you would of handed the TA flowers instead of bullets im sure they would have returned the same stance.
Unlike you we do not want the whole island we are not greedy Gcs also have a right to live here, unlike you we never tell you to leave we just say we want to share and not give away our island to Greece.
by Viewpoint » Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:55 pm
paliometoxo wrote:Why on earth would we want them to go home?we still do not trust you and they are needed as a deterrent to keep you people in check otherwise you would all be running amok in the north and fighting would break out, they have kept the peace for over 36 years.
I thank god not all tcs are like you and think like you your the very thing that has caused the problem to cyprus and stops there being a solution you and your gc enosis wanting friends... you have very similar goals and cause only problems in cyprus..They will only go when we agree a solution not before why do you have a problem understanding this very basic fact?
your still failing to understand that its not about understanding its becaue you the tcs are being stupidHello this is where you go wrong and why we will never be forced into minority status where GCs can use their numbers to our detrrement, get this into your head we are equal partners and if we all own Cyprus then we to have just as much right to it as you do, thats why sharing is the best policy, we couldnt manage this all mixed together so the next best thing is side by side which has worked for the last 36 years all we have to do is agree the framework of how we will marry the 2 together and move forward but it appears you people do not want a sharing deal you want to take control fo the whole island and reduce to minority status left to your mercy, well buddy aint gonna happen we will never let it, its about time you woke up this fact and understood that you have to share equally.
equal partners? rubbish your a minority stop being a baby and get over it.. your like a little baby crying, what you want is not equal partnership its control over the island..I dont live in Turkey nor am I a Kurd they can fight their own battles I have enough on my own plate.
no you dont but turkey controls the north.. you actually have the illusion there is any tcs left with any say at all in the north? its a turkish occupation which means the turkish are calling the shots which means their bull shit logic and double standards is so stupid... the very thing they want is un acceptable in turkey why is it suddenly acceptable in cyprus? because they are the ones trying to take power not have to give it... turkish hypocrites and lying thievesSo your leaders are lieing to the world?
no your leaders are doing the lyingWe do not have such a big TC army, and you determination to get rid of the TA before we agree a solution reeks of weakening our security in order to shit all over us again like you did in the past, we would be very stupid to send them packing it would be like surrendering to the enemy.
for all the good they are doing you here. this pretence of being scared of gcs that would suddenly run and kill you all if the ta went home.. if the gcs wanted to try something stupid like they we would come even with the ta army there. you think that would stop them? since we have so many hundreds of thousands of army we could easily take out your 40k and kill the tcs along with them...It took Turkey 11 years to intervene last time and you think with the EU they could just pop back when they wanted, please give us more credit than that, we may be many things but we are not stupid. you give us absolutely no reason of confidence to get rid of the army so arguing this point is pretty pointless.
why is it you say the eu wont get rid of the TA and laugh at us and then claim they would stop you re entering if you left? either they will or wont help the gcs.. we are the bullies after all according to your signature so if thats true then even after leaving they would not help us by stopping you to enter again would they? or would they?
in my opinion if they where to do anything they would of done it by now by forcing the ta out.. this excuse you guys have for the occupation army to be here is not validIts was a full scale war, you tried to kill us and we fought back unfortunately shit happens during war the are plenty of far worse examples all over the world this was no different. If you would of handed the TA flowers instead of bullets im sure they would have returned the same stance.
no you tried to kill yourselves so we fought back ... either way we need an army! we cant trust you to behave and try start wars again for turkeys own gain and land.
.... gcs tried to stop enosis the enosis wanting people where the minority and the turkish exploited this and used it to their advantage and helped the TMT and your taksim goalsUnlike you we do not want the whole island we are not greedy Gcs also have a right to live here, unlike you we never tell you to leave we just say we want to share and not give away our island to Greece.
no thats right you dont, you only want to split it in two and have power in the south and north..... to tell us what to do...
you have already given the north to turkey... and now your trying to give power to turkey in the south as well to take the rest of it..
and unlike you turks we dont fill the island with settlers with bums from turkey to even the numbers in cyprus and smuggle even more settlers from turkey
by paliometoxo » Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:17 pm
Viewpoint wrote:paliometoxo wrote:Why on earth would we want them to go home?we still do not trust you and they are needed as a deterrent to keep you people in check otherwise you would all be running amok in the north and fighting would break out, they have kept the peace for over 36 years.
I thank god not all tcs are like you and think like you your the very thing that has caused the problem to cyprus and stops there being a solution you and your gc enosis wanting friends... you have very similar goals and cause only problems in cyprus..They will only go when we agree a solution not before why do you have a problem understanding this very basic fact?
your still failing to understand that its not about understanding its becaue you the tcs are being stupidHello this is where you go wrong and why we will never be forced into minority status where GCs can use their numbers to our detrrement, get this into your head we are equal partners and if we all own Cyprus then we to have just as much right to it as you do, thats why sharing is the best policy, we couldnt manage this all mixed together so the next best thing is side by side which has worked for the last 36 years all we have to do is agree the framework of how we will marry the 2 together and move forward but it appears you people do not want a sharing deal you want to take control fo the whole island and reduce to minority status left to your mercy, well buddy aint gonna happen we will never let it, its about time you woke up this fact and understood that you have to share equally.
equal partners? rubbish your a minority stop being a baby and get over it.. your like a little baby crying, what you want is not equal partnership its control over the island..I dont live in Turkey nor am I a Kurd they can fight their own battles I have enough on my own plate.
no you dont but turkey controls the north.. you actually have the illusion there is any tcs left with any say at all in the north? its a turkish occupation which means the turkish are calling the shots which means their bull shit logic and double standards is so stupid... the very thing they want is un acceptable in turkey why is it suddenly acceptable in cyprus? because they are the ones trying to take power not have to give it... turkish hypocrites and lying thievesSo your leaders are lieing to the world?
no your leaders are doing the lyingWe do not have such a big TC army, and you determination to get rid of the TA before we agree a solution reeks of weakening our security in order to shit all over us again like you did in the past, we would be very stupid to send them packing it would be like surrendering to the enemy.
for all the good they are doing you here. this pretence of being scared of gcs that would suddenly run and kill you all if the ta went home.. if the gcs wanted to try something stupid like they we would come even with the ta army there. you think that would stop them? since we have so many hundreds of thousands of army we could easily take out your 40k and kill the tcs along with them...It took Turkey 11 years to intervene last time and you think with the EU they could just pop back when they wanted, please give us more credit than that, we may be many things but we are not stupid. you give us absolutely no reason of confidence to get rid of the army so arguing this point is pretty pointless.
why is it you say the eu wont get rid of the TA and laugh at us and then claim they would stop you re entering if you left? either they will or wont help the gcs.. we are the bullies after all according to your signature so if thats true then even after leaving they would not help us by stopping you to enter again would they? or would they?
in my opinion if they where to do anything they would of done it by now by forcing the ta out.. this excuse you guys have for the occupation army to be here is not validIts was a full scale war, you tried to kill us and we fought back unfortunately shit happens during war the are plenty of far worse examples all over the world this was no different. If you would of handed the TA flowers instead of bullets im sure they would have returned the same stance.
no you tried to kill yourselves so we fought back ... either way we need an army! we cant trust you to behave and try start wars again for turkeys own gain and land.
.... gcs tried to stop enosis the enosis wanting people where the minority and the turkish exploited this and used it to their advantage and helped the TMT and your taksim goalsUnlike you we do not want the whole island we are not greedy Gcs also have a right to live here, unlike you we never tell you to leave we just say we want to share and not give away our island to Greece.
no thats right you dont, you only want to split it in two and have power in the south and north..... to tell us what to do...
you have already given the north to turkey... and now your trying to give power to turkey in the south as well to take the rest of it..
and unlike you turks we dont fill the island with settlers with bums from turkey to even the numbers in cyprus and smuggle even more settlers from turkey
Its obvious we will get nowhere from your responses, so you can continue with your brainwashed mentality that will guarantee this island will stay how it is for many years to come or you can start to say hold on these people also have rights, concerns and fears which need to be addressed and not brushed to one side because we are so despot that blinds us to the realities that face us and that with compromise and understanding can be solved.
Palio get this into naive little head the TA army will never leave until we agree a solution, I have told you many times we do not trust you and you do not trust us, you want your army but you want us to get rid of ours, now do you see how stupid you look?
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