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[Viewpoint]

no you dont, where does it say in the 1960 agreements that there should be two states in cyprus or that turkey has the right to split the island in two? it says turkey had the right to restore order not make two states. you cant hand pick the parts of the 1960 agreement you like then ignore the rest, its either all or none

Thats why we are trying to agree a new deal and security measures under a BBF which are a part of that new structure, you forced the EU on us we did not sign anything, the BBF is still on the table and the division today was a direct result of your dream for enosis and placing us in danger.

[Gasman]

you cant hand pick the parts of the 1960 agreement you like then ignore the rest, its either all or none

But isn't that what Makarios wanted to do?

[paliometoxo]

no you dont, where does it say in the 1960 agreements that there should be two states in cyprus or that turkey has the right to split the island in two? it says turkey had the right to restore order not make two states. you cant hand pick the parts of the 1960 agreement you like then ignore the rest, its either all or none

Thats why we are trying to agree a new deal and security measures under a BBF which are a part of that new structure, you forced the EU on us we did not sign anything, the BBF is still on the table and the division today was a direct result of your dream for enosis and placing us in danger.

and your plan of taksim and your turkish generals blowing the tcs up blowing mosques up and causing problems so tcs think its gcs was for love?

just like your trying to force partition or bbf which is the same crap to me. i know you say there is difference but only difference is in bbf you get more power and again what you want... you say all this fair deal but what you mean is you want to become the majority with all the power and spit in our face and we should like it and be grateful your trying to take control and be happy to accept it

there will be no bbf or parittion

[Kikapu]

We didnt agree to you entering the EU so we are not bound by it you are plus your constitution provides us with security clauses without our agreement you cannot erase these rights.

Aren't you just contradicting yourself with the above statement.?

1. We didnt agree to you entering the EU

2. your constitution provides us with security clauses without our agreement you cannot erase these rights.

If No 1. was achieved without the TCs input, why can't No 2.???

I'm just asking.!

One has both our signatures the other doesnt. Without our say so you cannot unilaterally go into the EU so it only binds the party that has falsely entered and that wants to impose EU security whereas we still go by the 1960 agreements where Turkey is the guarantor.

Without our say so you cannot unilaterally go into the EU

VP, this might come as a complete shock to you, but while you were away on a deserted island as a result of a shipwreck, Cyprus entered the EU as a full member, all of Cyprus, from east to west and from north to south back in 2004, without needing a signature from the TCs, but ONLY a signature from the RoC government.!

[Viewpoint]

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[Viewpoint]

no you dont, where does it say in the 1960 agreements that there should be two states in cyprus or that turkey has the right to split the island in two? it says turkey had the right to restore order not make two states. you cant hand pick the parts of the 1960 agreement you like then ignore the rest, its either all or none

Thats why we are trying to agree a new deal and security measures under a BBF which are a part of that new structure, you forced the EU on us we did not sign anything, the BBF is still on the table and the division today was a direct result of your dream for enosis and placing us in danger.

and your plan of taksim and your turkish generals blowing the tcs up blowing mosques up and causing problems so tcs think its gcs was for love?

just like your trying to force partition or bbf which is the same crap to me. i know you say there is difference but only difference is in bbf you get more power and again what you want... you say all this fair deal but what you mean is you want to become the majority with all the power and spit in our face and we should like it and be grateful your trying to take control and be happy to accept it

there will be no bbf or parittion

So we stay as we are and fight our corners, do you think the EU club or the UN will be happy with you people? We will not capitulate to your demands and continue to support support the UN for a BBF solution.

[Viewpoint]

We didnt agree to you entering the EU so we are not bound by it you are plus your constitution provides us with security clauses without our agreement you cannot erase these rights.

Aren't you just contradicting yourself with the above statement.?

1. We didnt agree to you entering the EU

2. your constitution provides us with security clauses without our agreement you cannot erase these rights.

If No 1. was achieved without the TCs input, why can't No 2.???

I'm just asking.!

One has both our signatures the other doesnt. Without our say so you cannot unilaterally go into the EU so it only binds the party that has falsely entered and that wants to impose EU security whereas we still go by the 1960 agreements where Turkey is the guarantor.

Without our say so you cannot unilaterally go into the EU

VP, this might come as a complete shock to you, but while you were away on a deserted island as a result of a shipwreck, Cyprus entered the EU as a full member, all of Cyprus, from east to west and from north to south back in 2004, without needing a signature from the TCs, but ONLY a signature from the RoC government.!

And they are paying the price with the biggest headache in its history this thorn will continue to bleed and fester and as the EU have stated it was a mistake to take a divided island into the EU they will realize this more over time as no solution is found the grave mistake they made. Plus nothing the EU demands binds us only those that placed their signature on the agreement and thats only 63% of the island.

[paliometoxo]

no you dont, where does it say in the 1960 agreements that there should be two states in cyprus or that turkey has the right to split the island in two? it says turkey had the right to restore order not make two states. you cant hand pick the parts of the 1960 agreement you like then ignore the rest, its either all or none

Thats why we are trying to agree a new deal and security measures under a BBF which are a part of that new structure, you forced the EU on us we did not sign anything, the BBF is still on the table and the division today was a direct result of your dream for enosis and placing us in danger.

and your plan of taksim and your turkish generals blowing the tcs up blowing mosques up and causing problems so tcs think its gcs was for love?

just like your trying to force partition or bbf which is the same crap to me. i know you say there is difference but only difference is in bbf you get more power and again what you want... you say all this fair deal but what you mean is you want to become the majority with all the power and spit in our face and we should like it and be grateful your trying to take control and be happy to accept it

there will be no bbf or parittion

So we stay as we are and fight our corners, do you think the EU club or the UN will be happy with you people? We will not capitulate to your demands and continue to support support the UN for a BBF solution.

now you suddenly care what the UN wants? they also want turkish army to get the hell out of cyprus.... its funny that turkey ignores this and the rest of the UN laws

[Viewpoint]

no you dont, where does it say in the 1960 agreements that there should be two states in cyprus or that turkey has the right to split the island in two? it says turkey had the right to restore order not make two states. you cant hand pick the parts of the 1960 agreement you like then ignore the rest, its either all or none

Thats why we are trying to agree a new deal and security measures under a BBF which are a part of that new structure, you forced the EU on us we did not sign anything, the BBF is still on the table and the division today was a direct result of your dream for enosis and placing us in danger.

and your plan of taksim and your turkish generals blowing the tcs up blowing mosques up and causing problems so tcs think its gcs was for love?

just like your trying to force partition or bbf which is the same crap to me. i know you say there is difference but only difference is in bbf you get more power and again what you want... you say all this fair deal but what you mean is you want to become the majority with all the power and spit in our face and we should like it and be grateful your trying to take control and be happy to accept it

there will be no bbf or parittion

So we stay as we are and fight our corners, do you think the EU club or the UN will be happy with you people? We will not capitulate to your demands and continue to support support the UN for a BBF solution.

now you suddenly care what the UN wants? they also want turkish army to get the hell out of cyprus.... its funny that turkey ignores this and the rest of the UN laws

You are the ones who refused the departure of the TA not us, the world can see that they will leave after a solution is found not before.

[paliometoxo]

ah yes the bannana plan.... no thank you plus it should not have to be accepted by us its a law from the un get out of cyprus..