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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:57 pm

Kikapu is the worst type of traitor peddling GC propoganda willing to sell out the TCs without a second glance.
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:00 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Kikapu is the worst type of traitor peddling GC propoganda willing to sell out the TCs without a second glance.

A traitor to separatists? Image


That’s not a traitor but a patriot! :wink:
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Postby All4114All » Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:16 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Kikapu is the worst type of traitor peddling GC propoganda willing to sell out the TCs without a second glance.


I hear you brother.
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:38 pm

All4114All wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Kikapu is the worst type of traitor peddling GC propoganda willing to sell out the TCs without a second glance.


I hear you brother.


Does that mean you both have the same father, different mothers, or, same mother, different fathers, or, same mother, same father.? :wink: :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:02 pm

Kikapu wrote:
All4114All wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Kikapu is the worst type of traitor peddling GC propoganda willing to sell out the TCs without a second glance.


I hear you brother.


Does that mean you both have the same father, different mothers, or, same mother, different fathers, or, same mother, same father.? :wink: :lol:

I think he's given up on being a Law of the Sea expert, and turned into a nigger! :?
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Postby runaway » Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:17 am

All4114All wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Kikapu is the worst type of traitor peddling GC propoganda willing to sell out the TCs without a second glance.


I hear you brother.


siktir edin rumun dolunu.
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Postby Me Ed » Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:55 am

runaway wrote:
All4114All wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Kikapu is the worst type of traitor peddling GC propoganda willing to sell out the TCs without a second glance.


I hear you brother.


siktir edin rumun dolunu.

You need not comment on threads that don't concern Turkey.
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Postby ZoC » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:40 am

runaway wrote:
All4114All wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Kikapu is the worst type of traitor peddling GC propoganda willing to sell out the TCs without a second glance.


I hear you brother.


siktir edin rumun dolunu.


yes please, genghis. large. with chilli sauce and thousand island.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:49 am

Me Ed wrote:
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boulio wrote:so for the senators they should be all t/c correct?

can g/c vote for the 30 northern mps?


Why not and vice versa the candidates with the most votes will be elected to the lower house, So that would allow MPs regardless of their ethnic origin or which state they resided in to be elected. SO the first 70 GC candidates with most country wide votes would be elected and the first 30 TC senators with the most country wide votes would be elected to make a total of 100 Cypriot MPs.


Sensible,realistic,workable proposals,VP...But as you too implied earlier the fanatical GC propagandist/hate merchants will never accept it...They will insist on" True Democracy,human right principles,EU requirements" etc,so they can dominate, and crush the TCs once again...With them it is about revenge,getting even,for all the real and imaginary pain and suffering in the hands of the Ottomans going back to 1571...Just ask Piratis.

Bir,

Those who advocate democracy and human rights are not necessarily fanatics or haters.

This is 2010 and not 1960. Back then the TCs took certain actions to prevent enosis with Greece, a concept today that is dead in the water and the RoC has removed Greece from its affairs.

However, whilst the TCs are understandably asking for certain representations in a united Cyprus, those GCs advocating democracy and human rights do not want to see veto powers used in the interests of a foreign country, namely Turkey, to the detriment of our homeland, or to render the government of Cyprus unable to function.

Perhaps you would like to elaborate on how you think, in this day and age, how any elected government of Cyprus would "crush" the TCs and what they would have to gain by doing so.


Me Ed...Personally I am happy to let by gones be by gones,but that is not how nations or communites operate in reality...They have their collective consciousness,and they are dictated by what happened in the past...

When a majority shows total disregard for the feelings of their significant minority,tear up international agreements,force their political partners out of power at gunpoint (because that is how the TCs see it,no matter what you think!),watch them suffer in isolation and deprevation for 11 long years with total callousness and disregard,and then start crying about democracy and human rights when their arses are kicked,you can't blame people for being suspicious...

Where is the evidence that the GCs have learnt their lessons from the recent past???where are the expressions of sympathy and regret???
All the TCs get these days are accusations of aiding a foreign power to satisfy Her expansionist ambitions,plus wanting to gain at the expense of others etc etc...Deeds must match words if you want people to respond positively to changing circumstances...Nothing has been done to make it easier for the TCs to put their confidence in their Greek Cypriot compatriots...Hence they want safeguards that the bad old days of 63-74 will not be repeated...Once you show some understanding of this fact,and are prepared to offer workable guarantees I am sure something could be worked out to mutual satisfaction...Threats of 'waiting for the balance of power to change to liberate Cyprus' can only be counterproductive...And that is all we are getting these days...Plus being told that after over 400 years on this land we are till not real Cypriots but Ottoman remnants! You go figure!
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:57 am

Oracle wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Oracle wrote:Are you hearing voices, Bir? Because you don't even make a passing effort to answer the questions raised. You seem to be answering something only you are party to.

Regardless, since you issue blackmails again, I have just one thing to say to your folks: drop the hostage demands and get your army out!


Not before you accept your part of the blame,apologise for wanting to give my country away to Greece,show us you have learnt your lessons from history,and get rid of your rampant hatred of all things Turkish...Fair enough??? :wink:


Whatever land you are referring to as 'your country', there isn't any part which the Turks occupy which didn't instead belong to another group of people for thousand of years of recorded history and those people are still here reclaiming their possessions!

Cyprus was never yours to 'own'. You are here - rightfully - for only as long as you allow democracy and equality to preside. Right now, you are preventing that course. If any (useless) apologies are due, they are from you to us.


I never said I owned my country...It is my country,my homeland that owns me,body and soul...That country is Cyprus...You wanted to give it away on a plate to a foreign country hostile to my nation...It was called ENOSIS with Greece...It was you who didnt want an independent and democratic republic where you shared power with us...Now on your knees and beg forgiveness for your past stupidity! We will talk about your present stupidity later..
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