All4114All wrote:Kikapu wrote:All4114All wrote:Actually you miss the point Alan Meale seems to have a strong connection with the Greek Cypriot community dont worry if he is guilty or not. Although he doesn't find himself guilty as he statesSo he confirms that it is only 'football interest' well this 'football interest' club is Barnet F.C who the chairman is Anthony Kleanthous are we now begining to tie strings together? also to add to the string of Alan Meale his something more recent.Meale has denied any wrongdoing, and said his involvement in the matter was purely down to his "football interest".25/10/2010
The event, organised through the Greek Cypriot Brotherhood, is being held in Parliament on Wednesday. The Mayor, along with councillors of Lapithos, are coming to 'coordinate the efforts of their compatriots overseas, to meet and discuss with Members of Parliament the latest developments on the issue of Cyprus and ask for help on issues affecting Cypriot refugees and the human rights of all Cypriots.'
The event is also being sponsored by Alan Meale MP and Jim Sheridan MP.
http://www.finchleyconservatives.com/ne ... ithos.html
Now if he was comming to discuss business no problems but a sponsor of the Greek Cypriot Brotherhood which supports my 1998 article of receving 10k from the group.
I'm really bored with your above, totally pointless argument, just to try and make something out of nothing. Please don't bore me again with useless posts as the ones above...................please.!All4114All wrote:As a citizen sure I receive EU membership so individually I have a right to have my Passport and ID card because this is my land aswell. But as a nation well are we benefiting from the EU as the South No. Even after promises from the EU and US that who ever voted in favour of the referendum 2004 will receive all benefits but what have we today the South is prospering while the North continues with no change. Many of the facist G/C on this forum will lay blame on Turkey or the T/C parliment that we still have embargoes upon the citizens of T/C but this is the true propaganda and double standards from the South Cypurs to the EU. To understand as an individual I enjoy my EU benefits while Im under Turkish administration. It would of been interesting to see if T/C citizens were to apply for EU passport must be under Greek administration as a condition how many would actually apply for the Passport not many I assume.
There will never be a settlement on Cyprus as long as the South is enjoying all benefits why would you change when your already happy? 6 years ago the EU could of pressured both sides to come to an agreement before entry but they turn a blind eye and ignored everything and accepted the RoC with the South as the governing body of the whole island.
I as a T/C will enjoy a strong relationship with my G/C friend but if he/she is to arrogant and full of lies then I will find it very hard for me to call he/she my friend.
Listen, my friend. Personally speaking, I think you are a nice fellow who has had too much of "trnc brainwashing" gone to your head. I don't know whether you know it or not, but you are like someone who has a sign on their forehead that reads, " Please Ridicule Me" with the stuff you posts a lot of the times. Let me explain to you what I mean, and I'm not going to ridicule you if all possible, even though it is going to be very hard not to..
First of all, nobody promised anything to the "trnc", regarding the outcome of the Annan plan referendum. What was promised, was that the RoC would become an EU member and all of it's citizens, TCs and GCs alike, and the EU has kept it's promise. Anything that was "promised" to the TCs, they have gotten them. Tell me anything a TC cannot do withing the RoC controlled areas.? Tell me anything a TC cannot bring into the "trnc" from anywhere in the world.? The isolation and the embargoes are against the "trnc" and not the TCs. The "trnc" is an unrecognised illegal entity created by Turkey, for Turkey, therefore, there is no "North Cyprus" and "South Cyprus" or "Turkish Administration" and "Greek Administration" in Cyprus. I know that's how you have been brought up to believe and to think in those terms, is the reason why you set yourself up to be ridiculed with what the realities are.
There is ONLY one recognised government regardless of the political internal problems within the RoC. Despite the political internal problems, the TCs have the same social benefits as the GCs do within the RoC. The TCs also have the protection of the RoC and the EU when away from the Cyprus. What the TCs lack, are political benefits within the RoC, the EU and the UN as long as they choose to live in the "trnc". This the EU did not promise to change just by the TCs voting "YES" on the AP. Those benefits would have come had the AP was voted by the GCs also. The reason why the TCs voted "YES" and the GCs voted "NO", was because of a very lopsided plan favouring the the TCs, settlers, Turkey, Britain, for the very long term, and some GCs for the short term. It left the majority of the GCs in a "no mans land", in a limbo, filled with uncertainties. You need to ask the question as to why the AP was made to favour one side far more than the other side.? It was not the EU's job to do that, but the UN. But now that the RoC is a EU member, you can be sure that they will make sure any settlement will need to have their own EU Principles included, no matter what the UN may be willing to accept for a settlement. Today no one talks about the failed Annan plan, except for Turkey and the "trnc". Have you ever asked the question why that is.? I'm sure you already know the answer, therefore, there's no need for me to tell you.
The RoC would like to have a settlement, as long as it is settlement that will respect every one's rights. The whole island can function much better as one than divided one. It is foolish to think that anyone will want their V8 engine to run only on 5 cylinders. The RoC at the moment is running on 5 cylinders and the "trnc" on ZERO. That is the reason as to why the "trnc" needs a solution more than the RoC, because while the RoC is not running on all 8 cylinders as they would prefer, they would prefer the 5 cylinders than nothing at all, as the case would have been under the AP, which would have decimated the RoC politically, economically and as a country. What the TCs needs to do to benefit from everything the country of Cyprus can offer them, is to help the RoC run on all 8 cylinders politically and economically, but this can never happen as long as the TCs are still after Taksim. As soon as the TCs decide against Taksim, is when they too can help the country of Cyprus prosper, with them in it.!
Thanks for not being hard on me but I would like to reply.
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I do not disagree with you the fact that T/C citizens are isolated in respect of having EU passport although I will elaborate in my 2nd post to you what you fail to see. By stating there is no North and South is that there is a border between the communities and within this border is the UN peace keeping force which is dividing two communities from any conflicts although it has remained neutral for many decades. Let’s us not forget the negotiations and passports please to cross. RoC is a Greek administration which going by your reply means that the struggle of all T/C over the decades will mean nothing if we drop everything and adopt the RoC under Greek administration exactly what you attended to achieve many years ago but instead of violence you will succeed via politics. That is the reality. I want you to show me a G/C government which you have elected that has come out and said we will embrace our T/C brothers and sisters the confidence and security we need? Then I can be ridiculed for continuing to stay in the North.
Now you have to think a little lets say in your perfect world we T/C drop everything and accept the RoC as it stands Greek government in power nothing changes which are many views on this forum. What you’re asking the T/C people all over the world but of course the T/C citizen mainly who live here is that we were wrong and you guys were right and Enosis and all other events that have been the struggle of all T/C was for nothing. Can you comprehend this? The stronger reality is one day you will be negotiating with Turks and not T/C.
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The reason you don’t hear the Annan Plan anymore is the reason you don’t hear enosis or Eoka anymore but the word occupation continually circulates why well the reason I have stated above is that the Greek administration which represents the whole island and the Greek officials in the EU hide the truth. So it is up to the T/C community to remind you and the mess we are left with today now I will jump the fence and say that our T/C parliament certainly has not helped although Mr Talat was close.
You say the AP was benefiting the G/C for a short term well thank you for understanding because there has not been anything to secure T/C rights for a long term so we continue the negotiations.
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I agree the whole island can run better united than it can divide.
Listen my friend, my time is very limited and I can't spend it all on you if you are not even able to comprehend what is written to you, that you can't even quote me accurately and/or stick to the topic to address all the questions put to you. As I've already said to you, that you have too much "trnc brainwashing" between your ears in order for you to free yourself to be able to see reality without giving me the propaganda you have been brought up with.
Also, I have told you twice that I am a TC, and yet you insinuate in your writings that I'm a GC. If you can't comprehend this little piece of information, then I'm not going to waste my time to "force feed" you information that you are unable to take in and digest. I will do the humane thing and not respond to some of your posts than be cruel to you by ridiculing you, because I really do think you are a nice person, but is someone who has been lead down the wrong path with propaganda most of your life. I'm not blaming you, but your elders and leaders, who have brought you to where you are today in how you see things. Take care.!
