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[Nikitas]

Somebody is confusing the EU with the Euro zone, not the same things at all. Greece became a member of the EU in 1981 and of the Eurozone in 2002. Not all Eu members are members of the Euro zone.

[Kikapu]

Cable reveals EU's hard feelings on Greek Cyprus accession
The European Union had to accept Greek Cyprus' accession despite its leader's public campaign against a UN plan to reunite the island because member Greece would have otherwise blocked the membership of other countries, a former EU official was quoted as saying in a US diplomatic cable released by WikiLeaks.

Alan Meale (Mansfield, Labour)

Let us look at why Cyprus was allowed to join the European Union, a move that was led by Britain. A British Government argued that Cyprus should be in Europe because it would have been ridiculous and folly to keep it out of Europe. We all know what Cyprus was at the time of its entry. It was being treated as an offshore island by many, with 7,500 companies on its shores. It had its own stock exchange and an independent link into the European banking system. It was probably best placed for trade with the old eastern bloc, which most of Europe was not. It had a fine relationship with areas of the middle east and an outstanding trading relationship with China and Africa, which many EU countries did not have. As I understand from scientific texts, Cyprus is one of only four places on the planet that have windows into space, and, communications being so important for the future, it was important that that was kept in the European sphere, rather than being independent outside it. If anyone has any doubt about that, they will recall that it is for that reason that Britain's listening and searching stations are still situated on the island.
Last, but not least, there is the importance of oil and gas, not only for Europe, but for the rest of the world. People will have to consider the importance of the European oil and gas pipeline, which is now being driven down to the shores of Greece, where further pipelines will be fixed that go across to Limassol in the republic. Similarly, pipelines will be coming down to join the central European pipeline from the Caspian sea, and they will link in to guarantee oil and gas for Europe. Cyprus will shortly become the gas station of Europe, and possibly the world, which is another reason why it was important that it came into the EU.

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/whall/?id ... -16c.212.0

[All4114All]

The person who helped Greece be part of the EEC was Valérie Giscard D’Estaing with a little research you will find quite easily he was very anti-turk but an ally to Greece. His reasons well still looking into it.

Well Greece did join the EEC didn't mean automatic accession to the EU different rules as you said, (had to comply with the Maastricht Treaty) but as I said Greece lied about it's debt to join Eurozone (please take a look at the link I pasted). Are we begining to see the ripple effect.

SO WHAT jealous ?greeks laid the foundations for western civilization if you ask me they should have not even applied just been let in.

What has the turkic race given to western civilization?

I needed a good laugh.

Lets start with Greece what they have laid for the western civilization and the world full of mythological creatures . Although a great read got to give you that and certainly makes the human mind think. But I'll break some bad news for you I don't think your blood line comes from Zeus. Sorry had to say it you needed to know one day.

[All4114All]

Cable reveals EU's hard feelings on Greek Cyprus accession
The European Union had to accept Greek Cyprus' accession despite its leader's public campaign against a UN plan to reunite the island because member Greece would have otherwise blocked the membership of other countries, a former EU official was quoted as saying in a US diplomatic cable released by WikiLeaks.

Alan Meale (Mansfield, Labour)

Let us look at why Cyprus was allowed to join the European Union, a move that was led by Britain. A British Government argued that Cyprus should be in Europe because it would have been ridiculous and folly to keep it out of Europe. We all know what Cyprus was at the time of its entry. It was being treated as an offshore island by many, with 7,500 companies on its shores. It had its own stock exchange and an independent link into the European banking system. It was probably best placed for trade with the old eastern bloc, which most of Europe was not. It had a fine relationship with areas of the middle east and an outstanding trading relationship with China and Africa, which many EU countries did not have. As I understand from scientific texts, Cyprus is one of only four places on the planet that have windows into space, and, communications being so important for the future, it was important that that was kept in the European sphere, rather than being independent outside it. If anyone has any doubt about that, they will recall that it is for that reason that Britain's listening and searching stations are still situated on the island.
Last, but not least, there is the importance of oil and gas, not only for Europe, but for the rest of the world. People will have to consider the importance of the European oil and gas pipeline, which is now being driven down to the shores of Greece, where further pipelines will be fixed that go across to Limassol in the republic. Similarly, pipelines will be coming down to join the central European pipeline from the Caspian sea, and they will link in to guarantee oil and gas for Europe. Cyprus will shortly become the gas station of Europe, and possibly the world, which is another reason why it was important that it came into the EU.

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/whall/?id ... -16c.212.0

Tuesday, October 27, 1998
[09] British Minister accused of favours for Cypriot millionaire
A BRITISH Labour environment minister is at the centre of a political favours scandal after he allegedly intervened to help a Greek Cypriot millionaire develop in a green-belt area.
Alan Meale, who has close ties with Cyprus, has been accused of breaching parliamentary convention after he intervened in a planning inquiry to press for a controversial £14 million sports complex in north London.

The proposed site was 140 miles from Meale's constituency in Mansfield, in the east Midlands.

The junior environment minister is said to have stepped in after being asked to do so by the chairman of Barnet Football Club, Tony Kleanthous.

Kleanthous, a prominent member of the Greek Cypriot community in the UK, had earmarked the green-belt site for a new stadium for his third division club.

The Greek Cypriot businessman is said to have known Meale - who visits Cyprus frequently and was head of Labour's British-Cyprus committee - since 1995.

According to an article in the Sunday Times, Greek Cypriot community lobby groups have donated thousands of pounds to Labour, and have paid for Meale and his wife to go on trips to Cyprus.

Meale's lobbying in favour of the Greek Cypriot businessman has raised further questions about Labour's links with the Greek Cypriot diaspora.

The Labour MP was revealed to be at the centre of a fundraising campaign in which wealthy Greek Cypriots donated thousands of pounds towards the party's election push.

Meale has declared at least 11 trips to Cyprus since 1992.

Kleanthous has denied donating money to Labour or paying for Meale's trips to Cyprus.

But a member of the Greek Cypriot Brotherhood, which donated £10,000 to Labour last year, told the Sunday Times that Kleanthous had participated in at least one big fundraising event.

Meale has denied any wrongdoing, and said his involvement in the matter was purely down to his "football interest".

A statement issued by the Department of Environment said the issue was first raised with Meale, not by Kleanthous, but by the chairman of his local team, Mansfield Town, which is in the same division.

The statement said that "nothing improper had occurred" and that Meale's letters to the planning minister to back the scheme were written while he was still a ministerial aide.

The planning enquiry ended three months ago, and an inspector's report is to go before Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott for approval.
http://www.hri.org/news/cyprus/cmnews/1 ... ws.html#09

Alan Meale seems like a snake to me to for you to post his comments.

[BirKibrisli]

The person who helped Greece be part of the EEC was Valérie Giscard D’Estaing with a little research you will find quite easily he was very anti-turk but an ally to Greece. His reasons well still looking into it.

Well Greece did join the EEC didn't mean automatic accession to the EU different rules as you said, (had to comply with the Maastricht Treaty) but as I said Greece lied about it's debt to join Eurozone (please take a look at the link I pasted). Are we begining to see the ripple effect.

SO WHAT jealous ?greeks laid the foundations for western civilization if you ask me they should have not even applied just been let in.

What has the turkic race given to western civilization?

A sense of superiority,arrogance,and self-rightousness????

[Oracle]

The person who helped Greece be part of the EEC was Valérie Giscard D’Estaing with a little research you will find quite easily he was very anti-turk but an ally to Greece. His reasons well still looking into it.

Well Greece did join the EEC didn't mean automatic accession to the EU different rules as you said, (had to comply with the Maastricht Treaty) but as I said Greece lied about it's debt to join Eurozone (please take a look at the link I pasted). Are we begining to see the ripple effect.

SO WHAT jealous ?greeks laid the foundations for western civilization if you ask me they should have not even applied just been let in.

What has the turkic race given to western civilization?

A sense of superiority,arrogance,and self-rightousness????

You forgot 20th-century-Genocide, inspiring Hitler, ethnic cleansing, persistent Apartheid and Expansionism in the guise of "nationalism".

[BirKibrisli]

The person who helped Greece be part of the EEC was Valérie Giscard D’Estaing with a little research you will find quite easily he was very anti-turk but an ally to Greece. His reasons well still looking into it.

Well Greece did join the EEC didn't mean automatic accession to the EU different rules as you said, (had to comply with the Maastricht Treaty) but as I said Greece lied about it's debt to join Eurozone (please take a look at the link I pasted). Are we begining to see the ripple effect.

SO WHAT jealous ?greeks laid the foundations for western civilization if you ask me they should have not even applied just been let in.

What has the turkic race given to western civilization?

A sense of superiority,arrogance,and self-rightousness????

You forgot 20th-century-Genocide, inspiring Hitler, ethnic cleansing, persistent Apartheid and Expansionism in the guise of "nationalism".

Sorry,I forgot about ENOSIS which was aiming to expand Greece in the guise of 'nationalism' and 'Hellenism',and ethnically cleans the TC community From Cyprus...Thanks for reminding us...

[Oracle]

The person who helped Greece be part of the EEC was Valérie Giscard D’Estaing with a little research you will find quite easily he was very anti-turk but an ally to Greece. His reasons well still looking into it.

Well Greece did join the EEC didn't mean automatic accession to the EU different rules as you said, (had to comply with the Maastricht Treaty) but as I said Greece lied about it's debt to join Eurozone (please take a look at the link I pasted). Are we begining to see the ripple effect.

SO WHAT jealous ?greeks laid the foundations for western civilization if you ask me they should have not even applied just been let in.

What has the turkic race given to western civilization?

A sense of superiority,arrogance,and self-rightousness????

You forgot 20th-century-Genocide, inspiring Hitler, ethnic cleansing, persistent Apartheid and Expansionism in the guise of "nationalism".

Sorry,I forgot about ENOSIS which was aiming to expand Greece in the guise of 'nationalism' and 'Hellenism',and ethnically cleans the TC community From Cyprus...Thanks for reminding us...

That was just your fantasy - a preferred state of mind, thinks you.

We have Enosis with Greece, now, and enjoy the presence of many more minorities. Is there a reason the TCs couldn't live happily, with us, as these others do?

[Kikapu]

Cable reveals EU's hard feelings on Greek Cyprus accession
The European Union had to accept Greek Cyprus' accession despite its leader's public campaign against a UN plan to reunite the island because member Greece would have otherwise blocked the membership of other countries, a former EU official was quoted as saying in a US diplomatic cable released by WikiLeaks.

Alan Meale (Mansfield, Labour)

Let us look at why Cyprus was allowed to join the European Union, a move that was led by Britain. A British Government argued that Cyprus should be in Europe because it would have been ridiculous and folly to keep it out of Europe. We all know what Cyprus was at the time of its entry. It was being treated as an offshore island by many, with 7,500 companies on its shores. It had its own stock exchange and an independent link into the European banking system. It was probably best placed for trade with the old eastern bloc, which most of Europe was not. It had a fine relationship with areas of the middle east and an outstanding trading relationship with China and Africa, which many EU countries did not have. As I understand from scientific texts, Cyprus is one of only four places on the planet that have windows into space, and, communications being so important for the future, it was important that that was kept in the European sphere, rather than being independent outside it. If anyone has any doubt about that, they will recall that it is for that reason that Britain's listening and searching stations are still situated on the island.
Last, but not least, there is the importance of oil and gas, not only for Europe, but for the rest of the world. People will have to consider the importance of the European oil and gas pipeline, which is now being driven down to the shores of Greece, where further pipelines will be fixed that go across to Limassol in the republic. Similarly, pipelines will be coming down to join the central European pipeline from the Caspian sea, and they will link in to guarantee oil and gas for Europe. Cyprus will shortly become the gas station of Europe, and possibly the world, which is another reason why it was important that it came into the EU.

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/whall/?id ... -16c.212.0

Tuesday, October 27, 1998
[09] British Minister accused of favours for Cypriot millionaire
A BRITISH Labour environment minister is at the centre of a political favours scandal after he allegedly intervened to help a Greek Cypriot millionaire develop in a green-belt area.
Alan Meale, who has close ties with Cyprus, has been accused of breaching parliamentary convention after he intervened in a planning inquiry to press for a controversial £14 million sports complex in north London.

The proposed site was 140 miles from Meale's constituency in Mansfield, in the east Midlands.

The junior environment minister is said to have stepped in after being asked to do so by the chairman of Barnet Football Club, Tony Kleanthous.

Kleanthous, a prominent member of the Greek Cypriot community in the UK, had earmarked the green-belt site for a new stadium for his third division club.

The Greek Cypriot businessman is said to have known Meale - who visits Cyprus frequently and was head of Labour's British-Cyprus committee - since 1995.

According to an article in the Sunday Times, Greek Cypriot community lobby groups have donated thousands of pounds to Labour, and have paid for Meale and his wife to go on trips to Cyprus.

Meale's lobbying in favour of the Greek Cypriot businessman has raised further questions about Labour's links with the Greek Cypriot diaspora.

The Labour MP was revealed to be at the centre of a fundraising campaign in which wealthy Greek Cypriots donated thousands of pounds towards the party's election push.

Meale has declared at least 11 trips to Cyprus since 1992.

Kleanthous has denied donating money to Labour or paying for Meale's trips to Cyprus.

But a member of the Greek Cypriot Brotherhood, which donated £10,000 to Labour last year, told the Sunday Times that Kleanthous had participated in at least one big fundraising event.

Meale has denied any wrongdoing, and said his involvement in the matter was purely down to his "football interest".

A statement issued by the Department of Environment said the issue was first raised with Meale, not by Kleanthous, but by the chairman of his local team, Mansfield Town, which is in the same division.

The statement said that "nothing improper had occurred" and that Meale's letters to the planning minister to back the scheme were written while he was still a ministerial aide.

The planning enquiry ended three months ago, and an inspector's report is to go before Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott for approval.
http://www.hri.org/news/cyprus/cmnews/1 ... ws.html#09

Alan Meale seems like a snake to me to for you to post his comments.

Oh dear dear dear.!!!

Now you have gone into digging up "gossips" from 12 years ago to prove what exactly.??

Let me help you........................NOTHING.!

Don't show me accusations. Show me convictions of wrong doings.

Oh, you can't, because he is still in the Parliament after the above "gossip piece".

Haven't you ever heard, that making donations to political parties is legal.

Why don't you tell us what was not factual in what he said few weeks ago during the debates that I posted above.??

OK, maybe calling Cyprus a "Gas station" of Europe in the future was funny.! Perhaps Cyprus getting rich on oil and Gas in the future may have been more appropriate.!

In any case, I don't know why all you so called "Turkish Cypriots" are pissed off with the RoC being in the EU. Are you also not benefiting from the EU membership.? Sure you are and will even more, when there is a settlement.

I understand why Turkey is pissed off, but why the TCs.??

Perhaps you can explain it all to me, because I just don't get it.!

[All4114All]

Cable reveals EU's hard feelings on Greek Cyprus accession
The European Union had to accept Greek Cyprus' accession despite its leader's public campaign against a UN plan to reunite the island because member Greece would have otherwise blocked the membership of other countries, a former EU official was quoted as saying in a US diplomatic cable released by WikiLeaks.

Alan Meale (Mansfield, Labour)

Let us look at why Cyprus was allowed to join the European Union, a move that was led by Britain. A British Government argued that Cyprus should be in Europe because it would have been ridiculous and folly to keep it out of Europe. We all know what Cyprus was at the time of its entry. It was being treated as an offshore island by many, with 7,500 companies on its shores. It had its own stock exchange and an independent link into the European banking system. It was probably best placed for trade with the old eastern bloc, which most of Europe was not. It had a fine relationship with areas of the middle east and an outstanding trading relationship with China and Africa, which many EU countries did not have. As I understand from scientific texts, Cyprus is one of only four places on the planet that have windows into space, and, communications being so important for the future, it was important that that was kept in the European sphere, rather than being independent outside it. If anyone has any doubt about that, they will recall that it is for that reason that Britain's listening and searching stations are still situated on the island.
Last, but not least, there is the importance of oil and gas, not only for Europe, but for the rest of the world. People will have to consider the importance of the European oil and gas pipeline, which is now being driven down to the shores of Greece, where further pipelines will be fixed that go across to Limassol in the republic. Similarly, pipelines will be coming down to join the central European pipeline from the Caspian sea, and they will link in to guarantee oil and gas for Europe. Cyprus will shortly become the gas station of Europe, and possibly the world, which is another reason why it was important that it came into the EU.

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/whall/?id ... -16c.212.0

Tuesday, October 27, 1998
[09] British Minister accused of favours for Cypriot millionaire
A BRITISH Labour environment minister is at the centre of a political favours scandal after he allegedly intervened to help a Greek Cypriot millionaire develop in a green-belt area.
Alan Meale, who has close ties with Cyprus, has been accused of breaching parliamentary convention after he intervened in a planning inquiry to press for a controversial £14 million sports complex in north London.

The proposed site was 140 miles from Meale's constituency in Mansfield, in the east Midlands.

The junior environment minister is said to have stepped in after being asked to do so by the chairman of Barnet Football Club, Tony Kleanthous.

Kleanthous, a prominent member of the Greek Cypriot community in the UK, had earmarked the green-belt site for a new stadium for his third division club.

The Greek Cypriot businessman is said to have known Meale - who visits Cyprus frequently and was head of Labour's British-Cyprus committee - since 1995.

According to an article in the Sunday Times, Greek Cypriot community lobby groups have donated thousands of pounds to Labour, and have paid for Meale and his wife to go on trips to Cyprus.

Meale's lobbying in favour of the Greek Cypriot businessman has raised further questions about Labour's links with the Greek Cypriot diaspora.

The Labour MP was revealed to be at the centre of a fundraising campaign in which wealthy Greek Cypriots donated thousands of pounds towards the party's election push.

Meale has declared at least 11 trips to Cyprus since 1992.

Kleanthous has denied donating money to Labour or paying for Meale's trips to Cyprus.

But a member of the Greek Cypriot Brotherhood, which donated £10,000 to Labour last year, told the Sunday Times that Kleanthous had participated in at least one big fundraising event.

Meale has denied any wrongdoing, and said his involvement in the matter was purely down to his "football interest".

A statement issued by the Department of Environment said the issue was first raised with Meale, not by Kleanthous, but by the chairman of his local team, Mansfield Town, which is in the same division.

The statement said that "nothing improper had occurred" and that Meale's letters to the planning minister to back the scheme were written while he was still a ministerial aide.

The planning enquiry ended three months ago, and an inspector's report is to go before Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott for approval.
http://www.hri.org/news/cyprus/cmnews/1 ... ws.html#09

Alan Meale seems like a snake to me to for you to post his comments.

Oh dear dear dear.!!!

Now you have gone into digging up "gossips" from 12 years ago to prove what exactly.??

Let me help you........................NOTHING.!

Don't show me accusations. Show me convictions of wrong doings.

Oh, you can't, because he is still in the Parliament after the above "gossip piece".

Haven't you ever heard, that making donations to political parties is legal.

Why don't you tell us what was not factual in what he said few weeks ago during the debates that I posted above.??

OK, maybe calling Cyprus a "Gas station" of Europe in the future was funny.! Perhaps Cyprus getting rich on oil and Gas in the future may have been more appropriate.!

In any case, I don't know why all you so called "Turkish Cypriots" are pissed off with the RoC being in the EU. Are you also not benefiting from the EU membership.? Sure you are and will even more, when there is a settlement.

I understand why Turkey is pissed off, but why the TCs.??

Perhaps you can explain it all to me, because I just don't get it.!

Actually you miss the point Alan Meale seems to have a strong connection with the Greek Cypriot community dont worry if he is guilty or not. Although he doesn't find himself guilty as he states

Meale has denied any wrongdoing, and said his involvement in the matter was purely down to his "football interest".

So he confirms that it is only 'football interest' well this 'football interest' club is Barnet F.C who the chairman is Anthony Kleanthous are we now begining to tie strings together? also to add to the string of Alan Meale his something more recent.

25/10/2010
The event, organised through the Greek Cypriot Brotherhood, is being held in Parliament on Wednesday. The Mayor, along with councillors of Lapithos, are coming to 'coordinate the efforts of their compatriots overseas, to meet and discuss with Members of Parliament the latest developments on the issue of Cyprus and ask for help on issues affecting Cypriot refugees and the human rights of all Cypriots.'

The event is also being sponsored by Alan Meale MP and Jim Sheridan MP.
http://www.finchleyconservatives.com/ne ... ithos.html

Now if he was comming to discuss business no problems but a sponsor of the Greek Cypriot Brotherhood which supports my 1998 article of receving 10k from the group.

As a citizen sure I receive EU membership so individually I have a right to have my Passport and ID card because this is my land aswell. But as a nation well are we benefiting from the EU as the South No. Even after promises from the EU and US that who ever voted in favour of the referendum 2004 will receive all benefits but what have we today the South is prospering while the North continues with no change. Many of the facist G/C on this forum will lay blame on Turkey or the T/C parliment that we still have embargoes upon the citizens of T/C but this is the true propaganda and double standards from the South Cypurs to the EU. To understand as an individual I enjoy my EU benefits while Im under Turkish administration. It would of been interesting to see if T/C citizens were to apply for EU passport must be under Greek administration as a condition how many would actually apply for the Passport not many I assume.

There will never be a settlement on Cyprus as long as the South is enjoying all benefits why would you change when your already happy? 6 years ago the EU could of pressured both sides to come to an agreement before entry but they turn a blind eye and ignored everything and accepted the RoC with the South as the governing body of the whole island.

I as a T/C will enjoy a strong relationship with my G/C friend but if he/she is to arrogant and full of lies then I will find it very hard for me to call he/she my friend.