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[Get Real!]

Your almost there GR I think I have made you understand.
Correct. Political Independence of RoC = Greek Administration Government controls the South not the North. So the conclusion is that as i stated on page 6 of this forum it is the G/C Government imposing restrictions on Northern Seaports. Not Law of the Sea or any international Law. Because the South represents the whole island in the view of international stage it has the key to allow foreign vessels to dock anywhere in Cyprus it wishes = your G/C government instead of helping T/C it is isolating them by any means possible. Every word that is spat out of your mouth is trying to convince T/C we can live together when your government has done nothing to encourage the T/C to live together.

Glad we agree it was dragging on to long.

The only conclusion I can draw from all your stupidity is that you’re a typical uneducated Turkish clown wasting everyone’s time here!

Just beat it because you won’t appreciate my next post.

[Kikapu]

Kikapu we will never see eye to eye, I love my country, live here and hope to die here, you live abroad have not even been to the TRNC and try to tell us what is best for us according to the laws of Kikapu, clearly a sell out GC sympathiser (another saying is arse licker), dont expect any TCs to take you seriously.

Unlike you, I don't want to see any settlement that would last only a very short time before problems start again if a settlement would have the same ingredients as the 1960 constitution had, just like what the AP offered. This is what you are counting on, that problems will once again start with such an unworkable settlement plan, just like what the AP had, so that, with the well defined state borders, you can then walk away from the union to become an independent country and be a EU member at the same time. These are the reasons why you want Turkey to remain in Cyprus to help you achieve this. As a Cypriot, someone who has lived through the 1963 events, I do not wish for Cyprus to go through another event like that. If most GCs are supporting a BBF settlement based on True Federation, True Democracy, Human Rights, International Laws and EU Principles for all Cypriots, then as someone who believes in those principles as I do, why would I want anything less for Cyprus and all Cypriots if they are not based on the above principles, knowing full well it will create problems once again. That's why you and I don't see eye to eye, because you are trying to find ways to break Cyprus up, while I on the other hand, is trying to keep Cyprus as one for all Cypriots. You should be so lucky to get a Power Sharing offer as the one I proposed under BBF. Once you accept the above principles for Cyprus and for all Cypriots, I would be in the north before you know it, but until then, I have ZERO interests being in the north. Had the RoC had your views, I wouldn't have visited the south either.!

[Viewpoint]

It doesnt work because there are people like you who do not want it to work and will do everything witjin their power to ensure that any solution outside of their own rights will collapse. We can clearly see right through your antics and real aims thats what frustrates you to the max and why we will continue to demand security and guarantees to counter your sell out mentality.

[Kikapu]

It doesnt work because there are people like you who do not want it to work and will do everything witjin their power to ensure that any solution outside of their own rights will collapse. We can clearly see right through your antics and real aims thats what frustrates you to the max and why we will continue to demand security and guarantees to counter your sell out mentality.

Power sharing discussions here on the forum seems to be all but academic, since it appears that that part of the negotiations are already agreed on by Christofias and Talat. We shall see whose basic ideas on Power Sharing they have agreed on, yours or mine.!

I get the feeling that Talat will be labelled as a traitor by you and all the facists NeoPartitionist.!

[Viewpoint]

Dont forget the GC demand that nothing is agreed until everything has been agreed.

[Kikapu]

Dont forget the GC demand that nothing is agreed until everything has been agreed.

And that's the way it should be and with no time frames. May explain why Eroglu wants time frames, so that he can stall the talks to expire the time, just so to dissolve what has been agreed on by Talat and Christofias. I don't think he will get the chance. The only thing he can do, is to walk away from the negotiation table. Lets see what he will do to combat the already agreed Power sharing, if anything. My guess is, Eroglu is trapped and can't walk away, or else he would lose the agreed Rotating Presidency and the 50,000 settlers becoming Cypriot Citizens. He needs the Rotating Presidency more than anything else, therefore, he needs to protect that while trying to undermine the rest of the negotiations so to favour Turkey and not the Cypriots or the RoC.

[Viewpoint]

Dont forget the GC demand that nothing is agreed until everything has been agreed.

And that's the way it should be and with no time frames. May explain why Eroglu wants time frames, so that he can stall the talks to expire the time, just so to dissolve what has been agreed on by Talat and Christofias. I don't think he will get the chance. The only thing he can do, is to walk away from the negotiation table. Lets see what he will do to combat the already agreed Power sharing, if anything. My guess is, Eroglu is trapped and can't walk away, or else he would lose the agreed Rotating Presidency and the 50,000 settlers becoming Cypriot Citizens. He needs the Rotating Presidency more than anything else, therefore, he needs to protect that while trying to undermine the rest of the negotiations so to favour Turkey and not the Cypriots or the RoC.

January sounds like a disguised deadline to me and many others.

[Kikapu]

Dont forget the GC demand that nothing is agreed until everything has been agreed.

And that's the way it should be and with no time frames. May explain why Eroglu wants time frames, so that he can stall the talks to expire the time, just so to dissolve what has been agreed on by Talat and Christofias. I don't think he will get the chance. The only thing he can do, is to walk away from the negotiation table. Lets see what he will do to combat the already agreed Power sharing, if anything. My guess is, Eroglu is trapped and can't walk away, or else he would lose the agreed Rotating Presidency and the 50,000 settlers becoming Cypriot Citizens. He needs the Rotating Presidency more than anything else, therefore, he needs to protect that while trying to undermine the rest of the negotiations so to favour Turkey and not the Cypriots or the RoC.

January sounds like a disguised deadline to me and many others.

I'm waiting for the punchline.!

[Viewpoint]

Dont forget the GC demand that nothing is agreed until everything has been agreed.

And that's the way it should be and with no time frames. May explain why Eroglu wants time frames, so that he can stall the talks to expire the time, just so to dissolve what has been agreed on by Talat and Christofias. I don't think he will get the chance. The only thing he can do, is to walk away from the negotiation table. Lets see what he will do to combat the already agreed Power sharing, if anything. My guess is, Eroglu is trapped and can't walk away, or else he would lose the agreed Rotating Presidency and the 50,000 settlers becoming Cypriot Citizens. He needs the Rotating Presidency more than anything else, therefore, he needs to protect that while trying to undermine the rest of the negotiations so to favour Turkey and not the Cypriots or the RoC.

January sounds like a disguised deadline to me and many others.

I'm waiting for the punchline.!

No punchline BankiMoon slapped them about a bit and told them to get their act together for the end of January 2011, isnt that a dealine?

[Kikapu]

Dont forget the GC demand that nothing is agreed until everything has been agreed.

And that's the way it should be and with no time frames. May explain why Eroglu wants time frames, so that he can stall the talks to expire the time, just so to dissolve what has been agreed on by Talat and Christofias. I don't think he will get the chance. The only thing he can do, is to walk away from the negotiation table. Lets see what he will do to combat the already agreed Power sharing, if anything. My guess is, Eroglu is trapped and can't walk away, or else he would lose the agreed Rotating Presidency and the 50,000 settlers becoming Cypriot Citizens. He needs the Rotating Presidency more than anything else, therefore, he needs to protect that while trying to undermine the rest of the negotiations so to favour Turkey and not the Cypriots or the RoC.

January sounds like a disguised deadline to me and many others.

I'm waiting for the punchline.!

No punchline BankiMoon slapped them about a bit and told them to get their act together for the end of January 2011, isnt that a dealine?

I'm sure they will get more "slapping" in January also.!

This is going to drag on until after the Turkish elections in Turkey and the MP's elections in the RoC, 2011, because no one wants to be seen as being "capitulated" to the other side before these elections.