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[boulio]

So you agree Greece wanted Cyprus in the EU for it's own interest according to what you have said. Although we know now Greece's promises to the EU were a lie but just as you say protect it's own interest to say whatever and do whatever it needs to, so Cyprus has EU accession under Greek administration.
Greece wanted Cyprus in EU for her own interests.
We agree according to your quote.

So now I ask if Turkey is doing the same protecting it's own interest in Cyprus what right does it give G/C to blame Turkey being here in the first place? Greece protected it's interest and Turkey is doing the same.

Are we all not protecting our own interest?

But hey I know what the reply will be people will paste links of international law broken.

BTW I am not in favour of these foreign powers protecting their own interest and forgetting the citizens here in Cyprus.

Yes its called enosis within the EU

Cyprus EU ascesion may be turkeys greatest diplomatic blunder in the last 30 years.And the ascesion GREECE-ROC greatest diplomatic victory in the last 30 years.

[boulio]

Exactly. Anyone would think this was still the 1950s and Greek Cypriots were obliged to commit national suicide for the benefit of British foreign policy.

You'd think ex-officials like Chris Patten and Jack Straw would express some regret over the British Foreign Office's screwing up the Annan Plan so badly that their Turkish allies are now effectively shut out of the EU.

If anyone outside of Turkey itself is to blame for the implosion of Turkey's EU accession course it's fools like Patten, Straw and Blair who encouraged the Turks to believe they could enter the EU and continue to occupy Cyprus

Honestly Hermes Annan 3 if worked on a bit may have passed in a referandum.BUT THEY WENT to burdnenstock and gave turkey everything including the 11 points presented the last minute by turkish undersecratery Ozul

[All4114All]

Greece in this case was serving more the interests of Cyprus than her own. If it wasn't for the interests of Cyprus to join the EU then we wouldn't have applied.

Every nation has a right to protect its own interests. Nothing wrong with this. What is wrong is to violate the sovereignty and the human rights of citizens of other countries in order to serve your own interests. This is what Turkey and other Imperialists do. Greece didn't violate our human rights or our sovereignty by helping us to join the EU.

And what promises of Greece to EU were a lie??

Allow me to educate you.
First ask your friends Goldman Sachs
Below is an easy article to read basically Greece covered up it's debt to join the EU.
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2010/02 ... ency-swap/

[Get Real!]

Below is an easy article to read basically Greece covered up it's debt to join the EU.

I didn't bother to look at the article but when Greece joined it was decades ago and there was no EU but the EEC, whereby different rules applied! There’s just no comparison.

[Hermes]

Allow me to educate you.
First ask your friends Goldman Sachs
Below is an easy article to read basically Greece covered up it's debt to join the EU.
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2010/02 ... ency-swap/

The use of derivatives in deficit and debt management was a perfectly legitimate transaction under Eurostat rules. In fact, Goldman Sachs and Greece’s public debt division were following a path well trodden by other European governments and derivatives dealers.

[All4114All]

Below is an easy article to read basically Greece covered up it's debt to join the EU.

I didn't bother to look at the article but when Greece joined it was decades ago and there was no EU but the EEC, whereby different rules applied! There’s just no comparison.

The person who helped Greece be part of the EEC was Valérie Giscard D’Estaing with a little research you will find quite easily he was very anti-turk but an ally to Greece. His reasons well still looking into it.

Well Greece did join the EEC didn't mean automatic accession to the EU different rules as you said, (had to comply with the Maastricht Treaty) but as I said Greece lied about it's debt to join Eurozone (please take a look at the link I pasted). Are we begining to see the ripple effect.

[boulio]

The person who helped Greece be part of the EEC was Valérie Giscard D’Estaing with a little research you will find quite easily he was very anti-turk but an ally to Greece. His reasons well still looking into it.

Well Greece did join the EEC didn't mean automatic accession to the EU different rules as you said, (had to comply with the Maastricht Treaty) but as I said Greece lied about it's debt to join Eurozone (please take a look at the link I pasted). Are we begining to see the ripple effect.

SO WHAT jealous ?greeks laid the foundations for western civilization if you ask me they should have not even applied just been let in.

What has the turkic race given to western civilization?

[Hermes]

The person who helped Greece be part of the EEC was Valérie Giscard D’Estaing with a little research you will find quite easily he was very anti-turk but an ally to Greece. His reasons well still looking into it.

Greece and Cyprus fulfilled all the accession criteria for EU entry at the time. Turkey, however, has most of its negotiating chapters frozen because it is failing to meet the EU's demands. Instead of endlessly whining about it, the Turks could just do as they're required and start meeting the accession criteria. In other words, start behaving like Europeans, adopt the relevant European laws, follow European policies, recognise all EU members, get its troops and settlers out of Cyprus and at the end of it all we'll see if Turkey can join the club - by holding a referendum. It's pretty simple really.

[Get Real!]

Below is an easy article to read basically Greece covered up it's debt to join the EU.

I didn't bother to look at the article but when Greece joined it was decades ago and there was no EU but the EEC, whereby different rules applied! There’s just no comparison.

The person who helped Greece be part of the EEC was Valérie Giscard D’Estaing with a little research you will find quite easily he was very anti-turk but an ally to Greece. His reasons well still looking into it.

Well Greece did join the EEC didn't mean automatic accession to the EU different rules as you said, (had to comply with the Maastricht Treaty) but as I said Greece lied about it's debt to join Eurozone (please take a look at the link I pasted). Are we begining to see the ripple effect.

Ah, you're talking about the Eurozone!

If only posters would pay attention to terminology from the start they might have an argument, but alas...

[ZoC]

The person who helped Greece be part of the EEC was Valérie Giscard D’Estaing with a little research you will find quite easily he was very anti-turk but an ally to Greece. His reasons well still looking into it.

Well Greece did join the EEC didn't mean automatic accession to the EU different rules as you said, (had to comply with the Maastricht Treaty) but as I said Greece lied about it's debt to join Eurozone (please take a look at the link I pasted). Are we begining to see the ripple effect.

SO WHAT jealous ?greeks laid the foundations for western civilization if you ask me they should have not even applied just been let in.

What has the turkic race given to western civilization?