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Postby magikthrill » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:20 pm

i believe we also mathematically estimated the number of settlers once upon a time from alexandros surveys... something like 1 settler for every 2 TCs..
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:21 pm

fi wrote:Hi Viewpoint, sorry I said as above I don't have a source for this.

What is your source by the way? It's be very unfortunate if there are only 10,000 but it seems a bit exagerated. This shows the level of Turkish oppression in the north :(

What a shame.


For your information this year a full population and property count will be conducted, so updated figures will be available from the TRNC State Statistics office...

No fi I think there only me left, sorry all you have now are settlers, good luck...
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Postby fi » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:26 pm

Hi Viewpoint, there is no need for irony if you can't make an argument. I write on this posts with all goodwill and honesty and I espect for others some respect.

As for the TC statistics obviously they will be biased and subject to censorship...
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Postby fi » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:27 pm

magikthrill, still 33% of the population is a big political power...
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:43 pm

fi wrote:Hi Viewpoint, there is no need for irony if you can't make an argument. I write on this posts with all goodwill and honesty and I espect for others some respect.

As for the TC statistics obviously they will be biased and subject to censorship...


This office is working closely with EU and USA experts so they may not be to biased as you always seem to give the impression you wish to believe things are in the north. Does the fact that we have our own President, Prime Minister, Government, MPs, functioning government offices, officials, police, schools, councils, airports, etc etc make you uncomfortable???

The figures in your post were just made up and you continued to state the imbalance as if you were 100% certain of what you were saying something which is totally false dont your feel that grossly misleading?, at the last count we are approximately 220.000 population, how many of these are settlers I can only guess as these figures are not readily available as imo it would constitute discrimination but if I had to guess I would say between 60/70.000 are Turkish settlers...
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Postby erolz » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:44 pm

fi wrote:magikthrill, still 33% of the population is a big political power...


Yes it is. However it is also a long way from your first and second assertions, which are common GC beliefs.

Also of the 33% some share largely the same views on many of the key issues as TC do - and of course others do not. So the settlers have some impact on political decisons made here but they do not dominate as many GC believe. The impact they have is somewhere between 33% and 0% vs the results there would be without them, if Alexandro's conclusions are acurate and I believe they are. A much more exact figure for the % impact they have could be derived from analysis of the survey results that alexandros conducted which shows the difference in view between these two groups (TC and settlers). It would vary from issue to issue. I personaly do not have the will or ability to conduct such an analysis but it could be done.

So yes settlers have some political influence but in general the perception of how much they have held by many GC is far from an accurate preception.
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Postby fi » Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:02 am

Hi erolz, as I said I have no source so was just speculating, there is no need to repeat it again. It was Viewpoint that was saying 10,000 or something.

Gabaston you are out of topic this topic is Talat=New Denktash and it's a poll, what you saying altough untrue has nothing to do with this post. I forwarded the post to the moderators, I hope they keep their "delete irrelevant posts" policy.
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Postby gabaston » Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:18 am

Ohhhh and wasn't Mr Talat voted by the 150,000 illegal Turkish settlers that are now an absolute majority compared to only less than 50,000 Turkish Cypriots left! Who's interests is he going to protect?? the minorities??

Hi Viewpoint, sorry I said as above I don't have a source for this.

What is your source by the way? It's be very unfortunate if there are only 10,000 but it seems a bit exagerated. This shows the level of Turkish oppression in the north

What a shame.


the post was in response to the above unsubstantiated writings followed by admittance that it was written through ignorance of the facts.


which part of my post is untrue then?
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Postby Othellos » Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:47 am

There are also posts by Alexandros that go into more detail as to the numbers he believes are acurate and why and what they are based on, but from memory the conclusion is that there are not more settler voters than TC.


So what is the actual number of the settlers in occupied Cyprus, erolz, and how has this been verified?

The only way that one can find out such a number is through a detailed population survey.

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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:58 am

Othellos wrote:
There are also posts by Alexandros that go into more detail as to the numbers he believes are acurate and why and what they are based on, but from memory the conclusion is that there are not more settler voters than TC.


So what is the actual number of the settlers in occupied Cyprus, erolz, and how has this been verified?

The only way that one can find out such a number is through a detailed population survey.

O.


Which is being conducted this year and will include details of property as well, so that we may get an idea of exactly the scale of development and settlers issues. I know you do not trust the official offices in the north but they are working closely with experts from the EU and USA on these issues...
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