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[bg_turk]

I have said this many times, and I will say it once again.
It is a FACT that Greece is the only country that has continously expanded since her liberation, and this at the expense of her neighbouring countries. Greece has never lost territories that were OFFICIALLY recognized as part of her.

All other major Balkan countries - Bulgaria, Serbia, Turkey - have all lost territories at some point. Now how dare you accuse others of expansionism. Greece tried to annex Cyprus too, and if it were not for Turkey, Cyprus would now be a Greek province, much in the same way as Western Thrace, from which my relatives were ethnically cleansed!

[Bananiot]

Also, according to Nicos Dimou, all the wars with Turkey were started by Greece. It appears, this a historical fact.

[Piratis]

bg_turk, go see the ancients in Turkey. Then you will realize who expanded against whom.
Expanding is taking something that belongs to somebody else. Not taking back what was stolen from you. thats called liberation

Take the example of Ayia Sofia. The Greeks built it, then Turks stole it and added the minarets. To me it is clear to whom it belongs, and no, it does not belong to the thief.

[Murtaza]

bg_turk, go see the ancients in Turkey. Then you will realize who expanded against whom.
Expanding is taking something that belongs to somebody else. Not taking back what was stolen from you. thats called liberation

Take the example of Ayia Sofia. The Greeks built it, then Turks stole it and added the minarets. To me it is clear to whom it belongs, and no, it does not belong to the thief.

Acording to this idea, we have only one alternative,If we want to survive. Destroy All greeks, and I dont see any reason for unified Cyprus.
Piratis like this? why are you crying for North Cyprus, take it by force, but If you can not take it, Just guess.

[Piratis]

Acording to this idea, we have only one alternative,If we want to survive. Destroy All greeks

You tried and failed. (just like you tried with Armenians, the Kurds etc)

I don't want any kind of force to be applied.
However as long as Turkey shows no respect to our borders and our sovereignty, why should we respect the borders and sovereignty of Turkey?

[bg_turk]

bg_turk, go see the ancients in Turkey. Then you will realize who expanded against whom.
Expanding is taking something that belongs to somebody else. Not taking back what was stolen from you. thats called liberation

For the greeks it was liberation, for the slavs and turks it was ethnic cleansing. This land did not belong exclusively to the greeks, but now after your liberation of these territories from all non-greeks. It is so ironic that you are justifying the stealing of these territories by saying that they were previously stolen from you.

Take the example of Ayia Sofia. The Greeks built it, then Turks stole it and added the minarets. To me it is clear to whom it belongs, and no, it does not belong to the thief.

In fact I would have preferred if you converted mosques to churches, instead of levelling them with the ground.

[Viewpoint]

Guys we are the Cyprus problem, the people cannot agree on anything, so why do we keep bickering and insulting each other??? do we get a kick out of it?? or does it makes us feel like we are special?? or are we all so blind we cannot see the truth??


Lets just agree we cannot live together, no one can force the other and just agree to go our seperate ways......lets get with a life without the Cyprus issue....how can we do this???

[Piratis]

It is so ironic that you are justifying the stealing of these territories by saying that they were previously stolen from you.

Taking back what was originally yours is stealing?

In fact I would have preferred if you converted mosques to churches, instead of levelling them with the ground.

The good mosques were left intact, just like Turks leveled many churches. It is the same thing, with the only difference that if the Turks were to demolish everything that was not made by Turks then they would have almost nothing to show in their country.

[bg_turk]

Piratis,

Taking back what was originally yours is stealing?

Cyprus too originally belonged to the Ottoman empire, aren't Turks taking back what rightfully belonged to them? Do you see how absurd your argument sounds? How can you expect sympathy from me for your lost property, when you ruthlessly justify the greek stealing of the property of turks and slavs in Northern Greece.

I believe land belongs to all the people who were born on it. I do not care whose ancestors stole, invaded or occupied what.

Since I am sure you will go back to antiquity arguments, I just want to remind you that W Thrace belonged to the Thracians in antiquity, and it has been part Bulgaria for a significant portion of its history. But I guess you couldnt care less about it, probably you can label any territory which has some greek temples on it as rightfully greek.

[bg_turk]

Oh by the way, when was Western Thrace last part of Greece?