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[BirKibrisli]

It is obvious ,to me at least,that the Cyprus problem will be solved AFTER Turkey joins the EU and not the other way around...

Brilliant. Now do you want to explain how Turkey gets into the EU while occupying Cyprus?

That is not my problem...I am simply stating my opinion...If Turkey is not admitted to the EU,Cyprus problem will NEVER be solved...If you people want a solution then you will have to think of how to make it easy for Turkey to be admitted...You will need to be very creative,ingenious ,and brave...

But it is very easy for Turkey to unblock its EU accession process. All it has to do is solve the Cyprus issue by withdrawing its troops and settlers and allowing refugees to return to their homes. How much simpler do we have to make it for you?

You are asking for the impossible,Hermes...Turkey will never leave Cyprus until there is a comprehensive and final solution...Cyprus is a matter of national honour for the Turks...And if you knew them as I know them,you'd understand why...But you don't,so you think it is simple for them to just walk away...The way to get Turkey to do anything is not by threatening them,or trying to blackmail them...That makes them only more determined to stay...It is not in their national psych to be seen to give in to such demands...You have to make them feel they are giving you something out of their own generocity and kind heartedness.That is why I said your approach has to be intelligent,ingenious and brave...

[B25]

It is obvious ,to me at least,that the Cyprus problem will be solved AFTER Turkey joins the EU and not the other way around...

Brilliant. Now do you want to explain how Turkey gets into the EU while occupying Cyprus?

That is not my problem...I am simply stating my opinion...If Turkey is not admitted to the EU,Cyprus problem will NEVER be solved...If you people want a solution then you will have to think of how to make it easy for Turkey to be admitted...You will need to be very creative,ingenious ,and brave...

But it is very easy for Turkey to unblock its EU accession process. All it has to do is solve the Cyprus issue by withdrawing its troops and settlers and allowing refugees to return to their homes. How much simpler do we have to make it for you?

You are asking for the impossible,Hermes...Turkey will never leave Cyprus until there is a comprehensive and final solution...Cyprus is a matter of national honour for the Turks...And if you knew them as I know them,you'd understand why...But you don't,so you think it is simple for them to just walk away...The way to get Turkey to do anything is not by threatening them,or trying to blackmail them...That makes them only more determined to stay...It is not in their national psych to be seen to give in to such demands...You have to make them feel they are giving you something out of their own generocity and kind heartedness.That is why I said your approach has to be intelligent,ingenious and brave...

Hermes, just to translate what Bir has said.

Stand to attention
Turn and face away
Pull down you trousers
Bend
Scream Allah Akhber
Then when its done, say thank you your excellence.

This is the sum total of what the Turkeys want, well I give you Mr Eward Stadler, he words will now make up my tag line.

[Oracle]

...You have to make them feel they are giving you something out of their own generocity and kind heartedness..

Fine. They can start by giving us back occupied Cyprus. We, in turn, promise to thank them for their "generosity and kind-heartedness". Would that make them feel good?

[Hermes]

You are asking for the impossible,Hermes...Turkey will never leave Cyprus until there is a comprehensive and final solution...Cyprus is a matter of national honour for the Turks.

Yes, like the Armenian and Christian genocides in Anatolia are a case of Turkish "national honour". We know how Turks think. That is why they have to show evidence that they no longer think like Turks to join the EU. It is a civilizing process. Unless Turks withdraw from Cyprus and show commitment to international and moral law they cannot be accepted into the EU. Turkish "national honour" over the invasion and ethnic cleansing of an innocent civilian population can go fuck itself.

Left to their own devices, history shows that Turks will show no remorse or moral responsibility for their crimes. That is why the Europeans know that Turkey needs to show evidence of change first. We cannot rely on Turks eventually developing a "conscience". They must be forced to choose. National (dis) honor or the EU. The pathetic thing is that Turks have to be forced to do the right thing. It says it all really.

[Viewpoint]

You are asking for the impossible,Hermes...Turkey will never leave Cyprus until there is a comprehensive and final solution...Cyprus is a matter of national honour for the Turks.

Yes, like the Armenian and Christian genocides in Anatolia are a case of Turkish "national honour". We know how Turks think. That is why they have to show evidence that they no longer think like Turks to join the EU. It is a civilizing process. Unless Turks withdraw from Cyprus and show commitment to international and moral law they cannot be accepted into the EU. Turkish "national honour" over the invasion and ethnic cleansing of an innocent civilian population can go fuck itself.

Left to their own devices, history shows that Turks will show no remorse or moral responsibility for their crimes. That is why the Europeans know that Turkey needs to show evidence of change first. We cannot rely on Turks eventually developing a "conscience". They must be forced to choose. National (dis) honor or the EU. The pathetic thing is that Turks have to be forced to do the right thing. It says it all really.

Turkey has stated many times if forced to choose they will choose the TRNC over the EU, the EU is a dieing old man.

[boomerang]

You are asking for the impossible,Hermes...Turkey will never leave Cyprus until there is a comprehensive and final solution...Cyprus is a matter of national honour for the Turks.

Yes, like the Armenian and Christian genocides in Anatolia are a case of Turkish "national honour". We know how Turks think. That is why they have to show evidence that they no longer think like Turks to join the EU. It is a civilizing process. Unless Turks withdraw from Cyprus and show commitment to international and moral law they cannot be accepted into the EU. Turkish "national honour" over the invasion and ethnic cleansing of an innocent civilian population can go fuck itself.

Left to their own devices, history shows that Turks will show no remorse or moral responsibility for their crimes. That is why the Europeans know that Turkey needs to show evidence of change first. We cannot rely on Turks eventually developing a "conscience". They must be forced to choose. National (dis) honor or the EU. The pathetic thing is that Turks have to be forced to do the right thing. It says it all really.

Turkey has stated many times if forced to choose they will choose the TRNC over the EU, the EU is a dieing old man.

only if that was true and the turks stopped going around kissing asses...never seen a country trying to kiss so many asses just to get in the club only to be told time and time again stop kissing asses and get on with the requirements...

[Viewpoint]

You are asking for the impossible,Hermes...Turkey will never leave Cyprus until there is a comprehensive and final solution...Cyprus is a matter of national honour for the Turks.

Yes, like the Armenian and Christian genocides in Anatolia are a case of Turkish "national honour". We know how Turks think. That is why they have to show evidence that they no longer think like Turks to join the EU. It is a civilizing process. Unless Turks withdraw from Cyprus and show commitment to international and moral law they cannot be accepted into the EU. Turkish "national honour" over the invasion and ethnic cleansing of an innocent civilian population can go fuck itself.

Left to their own devices, history shows that Turks will show no remorse or moral responsibility for their crimes. That is why the Europeans know that Turkey needs to show evidence of change first. We cannot rely on Turks eventually developing a "conscience". They must be forced to choose. National (dis) honor or the EU. The pathetic thing is that Turks have to be forced to do the right thing. It says it all really.

Turkey has stated many times if forced to choose they will choose the TRNC over the EU, the EU is a dieing old man.

only if that was true and the turks stopped going around kissing asses...never seen a country trying to kiss so many asses just to get in the club only to be told time and time again stop kissing asses and get on with the requirements...

Better than blackmailing your way in.

[paliometoxo]

You are asking for the impossible,Hermes...Turkey will never leave Cyprus until there is a comprehensive and final solution...Cyprus is a matter of national honour for the Turks.

Yes, like the Armenian and Christian genocides in Anatolia are a case of Turkish "national honour". We know how Turks think. That is why they have to show evidence that they no longer think like Turks to join the EU. It is a civilizing process. Unless Turks withdraw from Cyprus and show commitment to international and moral law they cannot be accepted into the EU. Turkish "national honour" over the invasion and ethnic cleansing of an innocent civilian population can go fuck itself.

Left to their own devices, history shows that Turks will show no remorse or moral responsibility for their crimes. That is why the Europeans know that Turkey needs to show evidence of change first. We cannot rely on Turks eventually developing a "conscience". They must be forced to choose. National (dis) honor or the EU. The pathetic thing is that Turks have to be forced to do the right thing. It says it all really.

Turkey has stated many times if forced to choose they will choose the TRNC over the EU, the EU is a dieing old man.

only if that was true and the turks stopped going around kissing asses...never seen a country trying to kiss so many asses just to get in the club only to be told time and time again stop kissing asses and get on with the requirements...

Better than blackmailing your way in.

thats exactly what turkey tried to do.. blackmail their way into the eu.. and threaten

[Viewpoint]

You are asking for the impossible,Hermes...Turkey will never leave Cyprus until there is a comprehensive and final solution...Cyprus is a matter of national honour for the Turks.

Yes, like the Armenian and Christian genocides in Anatolia are a case of Turkish "national honour". We know how Turks think. That is why they have to show evidence that they no longer think like Turks to join the EU. It is a civilizing process. Unless Turks withdraw from Cyprus and show commitment to international and moral law they cannot be accepted into the EU. Turkish "national honour" over the invasion and ethnic cleansing of an innocent civilian population can go fuck itself.

Left to their own devices, history shows that Turks will show no remorse or moral responsibility for their crimes. That is why the Europeans know that Turkey needs to show evidence of change first. We cannot rely on Turks eventually developing a "conscience". They must be forced to choose. National (dis) honor or the EU. The pathetic thing is that Turks have to be forced to do the right thing. It says it all really.

Turkey has stated many times if forced to choose they will choose the TRNC over the EU, the EU is a dieing old man.

only if that was true and the turks stopped going around kissing asses...never seen a country trying to kiss so many asses just to get in the club only to be told time and time again stop kissing asses and get on with the requirements...

Better than blackmailing your way in.

thats exactly what turkey tried to do.. blackmail their way into the eu.. and threaten

What planet do you live on? when where how?

[boomerang]

You are asking for the impossible,Hermes...Turkey will never leave Cyprus until there is a comprehensive and final solution...Cyprus is a matter of national honour for the Turks.

Yes, like the Armenian and Christian genocides in Anatolia are a case of Turkish "national honour". We know how Turks think. That is why they have to show evidence that they no longer think like Turks to join the EU. It is a civilizing process. Unless Turks withdraw from Cyprus and show commitment to international and moral law they cannot be accepted into the EU. Turkish "national honour" over the invasion and ethnic cleansing of an innocent civilian population can go fuck itself.

Left to their own devices, history shows that Turks will show no remorse or moral responsibility for their crimes. That is why the Europeans know that Turkey needs to show evidence of change first. We cannot rely on Turks eventually developing a "conscience". They must be forced to choose. National (dis) honor or the EU. The pathetic thing is that Turks have to be forced to do the right thing. It says it all really.

Turkey has stated many times if forced to choose they will choose the TRNC over the EU, the EU is a dieing old man.

only if that was true and the turks stopped going around kissing asses...never seen a country trying to kiss so many asses just to get in the club only to be told time and time again stop kissing asses and get on with the requirements...

Better than blackmailing your way in.

so what flavours does your brown toothpaste came in?...