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[boulio]

simerini has published christofias red lines:

http://www.sigmalive.com/news/politics/330302

1)will not except anything lesss in territory than the annan plan 5 map(final)plus the rizokarpaso penisula with the four villages

2)with these land adjustments about 100,000 original refugees return put Christofias want the time frame of return alot shorter than the annan plan

3)illegal settlers and settlemnt to be stopped by turkey and all reurned ecxept for a ceiling of 50,000 who will stay for humaintarina reasons.

4)concerning security were i find it interesting Christofias proposal dosent say he wants the treaty of Guranteor terminated however says that he is against unilateral intervention.basically wants a mechanism set up that if cyprus needs help it will be agreed by certain bodies of the international arena.

5)the new republic if there is a agreement will be the continution of the ROC,thus eliminating the virgin birth model.

Pretty balanced if you ask me.

[Viewpoint]

simerini has published christofias red lines:

http://www.sigmalive.com/news/politics/330302

1)will not except anything lesss in territory than the annan plan 5 map(final)plus the rizokarpaso penisula with the four villages

2)with these land adjustments about 100,000 original refugees return put Christofias want the time frame of return alot shorter than the annan plan

3)illegal settlers and settlemnt to be stopped by turkey and all reurned ecxept for a ceiling of 50,000 who will stay for humaintarina reasons.

4)concerning security were i find it interesting Christofias proposal dosent say he wants the treaty of Guranteor terminated however says that he is against unilateral intervention.basically wants a mechanism set up that if cyprus needs help it will be agreed by certain bodies of the international arena.

5)the new republic if there is a agreement will be the continution of the ROC,thus eliminating the virgin birth model.

Pretty balanced if you ask me.

[boulio]

and can you please enlighten us why you reject it?

[Viewpoint]

and can you please enlighten us why you reject it?

What do we get in return?

[ZoC]

and can you please enlighten us why you reject it?

'cos he's a rejectionist.

[Afroasiatis]

simerini has published christofias red lines:

http://www.sigmalive.com/news/politics/330302

1)will not except anything lesss in territory than the annan plan 5 map(final)plus the rizokarpaso penisula with the four villages

2)with these land adjustments about 100,000 original refugees return put Christofias want the time frame of return alot shorter than the annan plan

3)illegal settlers and settlemnt to be stopped by turkey and all reurned ecxept for a ceiling of 50,000 who will stay for humaintarina reasons.

4)concerning security were i find it interesting Christofias proposal dosent say he wants the treaty of Guranteor terminated however says that he is against unilateral intervention.basically wants a mechanism set up that if cyprus needs help it will be agreed by certain bodies of the international arena.

5)the new republic if there is a agreement will be the continution of the ROC,thus eliminating the virgin birth model.

Pretty balanced if you ask me.

Well, I'm not sure if the amount of territory returned and the numbers of settlers staying as mentioned above are realistic goals any more, but I guess this won't be so much of a red line, it's after all more a quantitative difference than a qualitative. Overall, I guess these points could be a basis for an agreement.

[boomerang]

and can you please enlighten us why you reject it?

What do we get in return?

you get bankrolled...

[boulio]

What do we get in return?

your identities in the united republic of cyprus.

[boulio]

Well, I'm not sure if the amount of territory returned and the numbers of settlers staying as mentioned above are realistic goals any more, but I guess this won't be so much of a red line, it's after all more a quantitative difference than a qualitative. Overall, I guess these points could be a basis for an agreement.

concerning territory i read a article in the politis two days ago that the t/c are hell bent on amending the governance chapter were they blame talat for agreeing to cross voting and the termination of the veto.If they want to open that chapter they will most likely lose more land in return.also depends on the property issue concerning land and settlers.

[wyoming cowboy]

simerini has published christofias red lines:

http://www.sigmalive.com/news/politics/330302

1)will not except anything lesss in territory than the annan plan 5 map(final)plus the rizokarpaso penisula with the four villages

2)with these land adjustments about 100,000 original refugees return put Christofias want the time frame of return alot shorter than the annan plan

3)illegal settlers and settlemnt to be stopped by turkey and all reurned ecxept for a ceiling of 50,000 who will stay for humaintarina reasons.

4)concerning security were i find it interesting Christofias proposal dosent say he wants the treaty of Guranteor terminated however says that he is against unilateral intervention.basically wants a mechanism set up that if cyprus needs help it will be agreed by certain bodies of the international arena.

5)the new republic if there is a agreement will be the continution of the ROC,thus eliminating the virgin birth model.

Pretty balanced if you ask me.

you get preferential treatment in the ROC, loans, scholarships to higher education, jobs in the governement, and government contracts for tc companies........you also get a tc constituent state,in a federal democracy, its a huge compromise from what the gc could demand which could be pre-74 conditions, where there was one state and your people spread out in their original villages.