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Postby insan » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:25 pm

Other documents show that the US has supported the PKK, which has been waging a separatist war against Turkey since 1984 and has been classified by the State Department as a terrorist organization since 1979. The US military documents call the PKK "warriors for freedom and Turkish citizens," and say that the US set free arrested PKK members in Iraq. The documents also point out that US forces in Iraq have given weapons to the PKK and ignored the organization's operations inside Turkey.

On Wednesday, the Obama administration said that it had alerted Congress and begun notifying foreign governments that the WikiLeaks website is preparing to release sensitive US diplomatic files that could damage US relations with friends and allies across the globe.

Officials said the documents may contain everything from accounts of compromising conversations with political dissidents and friendly politicians to disclosures of activities that could result in the expulsion of US diplomats from foreign postings.

US diplomatic outposts around the world have begun notifying other governments that WikiLeaks may release these documents in the next few days.

"These revelations are harmful to the United States and our interests," State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said. "They are going to create tension in relationships between our diplomats and our friends around the world."

http://www.jpost.com/International/Arti ... ?id=196752

These are all about a part of at least some decades old plan... Their aim is obvious... pulling the whole world into the next ww in order to create the new worl order...

Is CIA not able to find out the one(s) leaking out those confidential documents? :lol:

In reality – Wikileaks is another attempt by the CIA/Mossad to hide the truth behind the Afghanistan war – just like the 9/11 Commission
which was set-up to provide cover to the real culprits behind the tragedy.

Wikileaks founder Julian Assange is another of CIA operative free to walk-around.


Don't waste your time with the tip of the iceberg... :wink:

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Postby insan » Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:55 pm

WHAT DO WE LOOK FOR, HOW CAN WE PROVE ISRAEL OR AIPAC MAY BE BEHIND WIKILEAKS?

Were we to ask author Jeff Gates, he would point to the “storytelling” aspect of Wikileaks, Assange and his “on again-off again” rape charges or that someone that manages to make it to continual television interviews can’t be found by police or security services. We call this “storytelling” and Jeff Gates tells us that Israel, the power behind Hollywood and the American press, is the “storyteller” of all time.

There are better ways to “prove,” a word as subjective as any of the storytelling around the Wikileaks myth itself. The proof, always depending on who accepts the proof, and as is almost always the case, dependent on whether the press itself chooses to report it, which if Israel is involved, is more than a bit predictable itself. Lack of reporting potential Israeli complicity in Wikileaks, knowing AIPAC and Israel have the longest history of accessing classified information and, by far, the strongest agenda for leaking information, could be seen as conclusive proof itself.

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Postby Lit » Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:03 am

Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, the key contact for the US embassy in Ankara, was also criticized in the despatches, with diplomats saying he had a 'neo-Ottoman' vision and little awareness of what went on outside Ankara

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Postby Lit » Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:20 am

Lit wrote:Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, the key contact for the US embassy in Ankara, was also criticized in the despatches, with diplomats saying he had a 'neo-Ottoman' vision and little awareness of what went on outside Ankara

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More info just posted by the WikiLeaks suggest that Turkey will probably not be joining the European Union and depicting Turkey as a country that is on a path to being an Islamist Republic.
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Postby Lit » Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:43 am

It just keeps getting better and better. ;-)

Wikileaks unveils largest US diplomatic cables, Turkey makes up second biggest share

The US diplomats' verdict on the NATO partner with the second biggest army in the alliance is devastating. The Turkish leadership is depicted as divided, and Erdoğan's advisers, as well as Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu, are portrayed as having little understanding of politics beyond Ankara.

The Americans are also worried about Davutoğlu's alleged neo-Ottoman visions. A high-ranking government adviser warned in discussions, quoted by the US diplomats, that Davutoğlu would use his Islamist influence on Erdoğan, describing him as "exceptionally dangerous." According to the US document, another adviser to the ruling AK Party remarked, probably ironically, that Turkey wanted "to take back Andalusia and avenge the defeat at the siege of Vienna in 1683."

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Postby Lit » Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:59 am

Leaked Cables Show U.S. Diplomats View Turkish PM Erdogan’s Government as Permeated by Islamists, Looking to “Avenge Defeat at the Siege of Vienna in 1683″…

http://weaselzippers.us/2010/11/28/leak ... a-in-1683/
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Postby Lit » Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:47 pm

WikiLeaks documents reveal Turkey's efforts to use protocols to derail Genocide Affirmation

http://www.armradio.am/news/?part=pol&id=18725

The public disclosure today by WikiLeaks of tens of thousands of US diplomatic cables included many of special interest to Armenian Americans, most notably a "smoking gun" revelation that Turkey has aggressively used the Turkey-Armenia Protocols, particularly the prospect of its ratification, to pressure American leaders against US recognition of the Armenian Genocide and in favor of a pro-Azerbaijani settlement of the Nagorno Karabakh conflict, reported the Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA).

"These files are a smoking-gun," explained ANCA Executive Director Aram Hamparian. "They reveal the remarkable candor with which Ankara has, from day one, sought to pressure the United States to enforce it preconditions for the Turkey-Armenia Protocols. It's painfully clear from the words of Turkey's own leaders that, rather than seeking peace, they instead sought to use the prospect of the ratification of these accords to block the Armenian Genocide recognition and to force a pro-Azerbaijani resolution of Nagorno Karabakh."

In a February 25, 2010, confidential cable from the U.S. Embassy in Ankara, U.S. Ambassador to Turkey James Jeffery noted that Turkey had made it clear that its ratification of the Turkey-Armenia Protocols was predicated on Azerbaijan President Ilham Aliyev's approval. Specifically, in describing a February 18, 2010, meeting between U.S. Under Secretary of State William Burns and Turkey's Undersecretary of the Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) Sinirlioglu, Jeffery writes:

"Sinirlioglu appealed for 'simultaneity' between Armenian Protocols ratification and the Minsk Process. He emphasized 'a strong reaction' against the protocols among ruling party MPs had to be overcome before the government would hazard a ratification effort. He warned Congressional passage of an Armenian genocide resolution would 'complicate' his government's domestic political calculations regarding ratification. He said if something acceptable to Azerbaijani President Aliyev can found, then 'we can move' the protocols forward."
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Postby Lit » Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:26 pm

US cables claim Turkish PM Erdoğan has eight Swiss bank accounts

If Turkish-U.S. relations manage to remain unscathed by American officials’ descriptions of senior figures in Ankara as “dangerous,” the damage might still be done by their claims about the Turkish prime minister’s personal assets.

READ IT ALL HERE:

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Postby insan » Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:19 pm

insan wrote:WHAT DO WE LOOK FOR, HOW CAN WE PROVE ISRAEL OR AIPAC MAY BE BEHIND WIKILEAKS?

Were we to ask author Jeff Gates, he would point to the “storytelling” aspect of Wikileaks, Assange and his “on again-off again” rape charges or that someone that manages to make it to continual television interviews can’t be found by police or security services. We call this “storytelling” and Jeff Gates tells us that Israel, the power behind Hollywood and the American press, is the “storyteller” of all time.

There are better ways to “prove,” a word as subjective as any of the storytelling around the Wikileaks myth itself. The proof, always depending on who accepts the proof, and as is almost always the case, dependent on whether the press itself chooses to report it, which if Israel is involved, is more than a bit predictable itself. Lack of reporting potential Israeli complicity in Wikileaks, knowing AIPAC and Israel have the longest history of accessing classified information and, by far, the strongest agenda for leaking information, could be seen as conclusive proof itself.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/11/27 ... eck-out-2/


WikiLeaks fiasco doesn't embarrass Israel one bit

There was no major discrepancy between messages delivered to Israeli press and those delivered to American diplomats.
By Aluf Benn

The "Israeli portion" of the U.S. government dispatches that were revealed yesterday by the WikiLeaks website revealed almost no new details regarding the exchange of messages between Jerusalem and Washington.

The secret documents sent by the U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv show that the heads of the Israeli intelligence apparatus and the defense establishment refer to the same talking points when briefing American bureaucrats and congressional delegations as they do when speaking to journalists and Knesset members.

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/ne ... t-1.327520
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Postby insan » Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:30 pm

insan wrote:
insan wrote:WHAT DO WE LOOK FOR, HOW CAN WE PROVE ISRAEL OR AIPAC MAY BE BEHIND WIKILEAKS?

Were we to ask author Jeff Gates, he would point to the “storytelling” aspect of Wikileaks, Assange and his “on again-off again” rape charges or that someone that manages to make it to continual television interviews can’t be found by police or security services. We call this “storytelling” and Jeff Gates tells us that Israel, the power behind Hollywood and the American press, is the “storyteller” of all time.

There are better ways to “prove,” a word as subjective as any of the storytelling around the Wikileaks myth itself. The proof, always depending on who accepts the proof, and as is almost always the case, dependent on whether the press itself chooses to report it, which if Israel is involved, is more than a bit predictable itself. Lack of reporting potential Israeli complicity in Wikileaks, knowing AIPAC and Israel have the longest history of accessing classified information and, by far, the strongest agenda for leaking information, could be seen as conclusive proof itself.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/11/27 ... eck-out-2/


WikiLeaks fiasco doesn't embarrass Israel one bit

There was no major discrepancy between messages delivered to Israeli press and those delivered to American diplomats.
By Aluf Benn

The "Israeli portion" of the U.S. government dispatches that were revealed yesterday by the WikiLeaks website revealed almost no new details regarding the exchange of messages between Jerusalem and Washington.

The secret documents sent by the U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv show that the heads of the Israeli intelligence apparatus and the defense establishment refer to the same talking points when briefing American bureaucrats and congressional delegations as they do when speaking to journalists and Knesset members.

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/ne ... t-1.327520


"If leaders start saying openly what they have long been saying behind closed doors, we can make a real breakthrough on the road to peace."

A 2009 American government cable released Sunday by WikiLeaks quotes Defense Minister Ehud Barak as telling visiting American officials that a strike on Iran's nuclear facilities was viable until the end of 2010, but after that "any military solution would result in unacceptable collateral damage".

Leaked documents also show America in agreement with Israel's assessment of Turkish premier Recep Tayyip Erdogan as an unreliable "fundamentalist" whose policies are governed by an irrational hatred of Israel.

Netanyahu added that Israel had been prepared for the eventuality of leaks and had worked in advance to limit any damage.

"Every Israeli leader has known for years that that dispatches are likely to leak out, so we adapted ourselves to the reality of leaks, he said. "That has a bearing on who I invite to meetings. No classified Israeli material was exposed by WikiLeaks."

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... n-1.327653
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