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[ZoC]

Med Ed what i am bringing to the table is so radical that you have yet to comprehend the benefits that would allow us to resolve the Cyprus issue one and for all.

ur acting as an agent of turkey. the only thing that's radical about this particular plan, perhaps, is that u don't realise it.

[Me Ed]

Med Ed what i am bringing to the table is so radical that you have yet to comprehend the benefits that would allow us to resolve the Cyprus issue one and for all.

Ok VP, let's flesh out your proposal.

How long to you envisage this arrangement lasts before the north becomes a normal functioning part of the RoC?

Would you do it for a phased return of territory to the RoC over an agreed time?

[B25]

Med Ed what i am bringing to the table is so radical that you have yet to comprehend the benefits that would allow us to resolve the Cyprus issue one and for all.

Ok VP, let's flesh out your proposal.

How long to you envisage this arrangement lasts before the north becomes a normal functioning part of the RoC?

Would you do it for a phased return of territory to the RoC over an agreed time?

Ed, why are you even giving this clown the time of day? he and the other 2 remaining TCs have no say in any of the 'trnc' affairs and he he is trying to negotiate a scam with you, whereby, not only is he holding your country to ransom, he now wants you to pay for the pleasure!

Just read ANY of VP's posts on ANY thread and you will see what a 2 faced kneiving little shit he is. Hade re pou tziame.

When the TCNG and ALL TCs stand together and swear alleigince to the RoC, then we may consider it, until then you are the enemy within and not to be trusted.

Whats up VP, did you hear something we didn't like Turkeys plan to stop funding you by any chance???

[Viewpoint]

Med Ed what i am bringing to the table is so radical that you have yet to comprehend the benefits that would allow us to resolve the Cyprus issue one and for all.

Ok VP, let's flesh out your proposal.

How long to you envisage this arrangement lasts before the north becomes a normal functioning part of the RoC?

Would you do it for a phased return of territory to the RoC over an agreed time?

totally it would have to be set to a timetable whereby the GCs can see the light at the end of the tunnel and tbat tbe finanvial burden would diminish over time as the economy in both states would take off with the return of Maras the relocation of TCs in GC properties, the TA start to depart and settlers are either accepted as Cypriots, given work permits or sent back. This is a viable and workable solution but it needs vision and courage which our current leaders lack, unfortunately Cypriots on both sides of the divide are just to stupid to even comprehend that if we worked hand in hand to overcome obsticles the impass could easily be removed and a solution found within a very short peripd of time.

[denizaksulu]

I have been reading this thread from the start and take it s seriousness with a pinch of salt.

I have a few questions:

If Eroglu agrees to give back Varosha (under UN control/without conditions), what will Christofias response be. Will he say, yes please or will he say, no thanks, I only deal with the organ grinder(Turkey).

If agreed, then whats the next step. How do you get the TA out of there i.e. what will Turkeys initial response be? Considering the economic dependence on Turkey, would the RoC seriously consider stepping up with the financial aid.. We have heard the responses of the hardliner on the cf, but what will a well meaning RoC do?

I know it sounds simple, but VP's suggestion seems a bit far fetched.

[Me Ed]

Med Ed what i am bringing to the table is so radical that you have yet to comprehend the benefits that would allow us to resolve the Cyprus issue one and for all.

Ok VP, let's flesh out your proposal.

How long to you envisage this arrangement lasts before the north becomes a normal functioning part of the RoC?

Would you do it for a phased return of territory to the RoC over an agreed time?

totally it would have to be set to a timetable whereby the GCs can see the light at the end of the tunnel and tbat tbe finanvial burden would diminish over time as the economy in both states would take off with the return of Maras the relocation of TCs in GC properties, the TA start to depart and settlers are either accepted as Cypriots, given work permits or sent back. This is a viable and workable solution but it needs vision and courage which our current leaders lack, unfortunately Cypriots on both sides of the divide are just to stupid to even comprehend that if we worked hand in hand to overcome obsticles the impass could easily be removed and a solution found within a very short peripd of time.

Sounds very promising VP.

The sums mentioned do represent a far larger proportion of the RoCs GDP as compared with Turkeys.

Therefore the majority of this money would probably come from the EU to not only achieve what you propose, but to also develop the north.

It would represent a fantastic investment in the future of all Cypriots.

[Viewpoint]

Deniz you have to push your bounderies and everything cannot be achieved overnight. Firstly if the GCs backed by the EU commit to support the norths economy until it can develop to a stage where this support is no longer required. Once this has been establish a new political party would be formed to gather support and get itself elected to start the process of getting Turkey to depart no longer will she be able to blackmail by threatening to stop funding the north therefore her influence will diminish couple this with international pressure Turkey will have to move out.

The TCs also have to commit to returning Maras and settlers so that GCs feel confident to provide the initial support necessary to make this viable. Other economic measures should also be taken to lessen the financial burden on the south but everone has to think long term and consider the benefits.

[ZoC]

Deniz you have to push your bounderies and everything cannot be achieved overnight. Firstly if the GCs backed by the EU commit to support the norths economy until it can develop to a stage where this support is no longer required. Once this has been establish a new political party would be formed to gather support and get itself elected to start the process of getting Turkey to depart no longer will she be able to blackmail by threatening to stop funding the north therefore her influence will diminish couple this with international pressure Turkey will have to move out.

The TCs also have to commit to returning Maras and settlers so that GCs feel confident to provide the initial support necessary to make this viable. Other economic measures should also be taken to lessen the financial burden on the south but everone has to think long term and consider the benefits.

get organised, grow some balls, take some risks and start a genuine movement dedicated to the expulsion of the invader and u'll get economic/political/media support from the free areas, the eu and the world.

[denizaksulu]

Deniz you have to push your bounderies and everything cannot be achieved overnight. Firstly if the GCs backed by the EU commit to support the norths economy until it can develop to a stage where this support is no longer required. Once this has been establish a new political party would be formed to gather support and get itself elected to start the process of getting Turkey to depart no longer will she be able to blackmail by threatening to stop funding the north therefore her influence will diminish couple this with international pressure Turkey will have to move out.

The TCs also have to commit to returning Maras and settlers so that GCs feel confident to provide the initial support necessary to make this viable. Other economic measures should also be taken to lessen the financial burden on the south but everone has to think long term and consider the benefits.

Agreed. It will take a long time, a very long time.

Can you envision some way of hastening this process? Just say NO to Turkey with some secret talks with the GCs in the background perhaps?

[Me Ed]

Deniz you have to push your bounderies and everything cannot be achieved overnight. Firstly if the GCs backed by the EU commit to support the norths economy until it can develop to a stage where this support is no longer required. Once this has been establish a new political party would be formed to gather support and get itself elected to start the process of getting Turkey to depart no longer will she be able to blackmail by threatening to stop funding the north therefore her influence will diminish couple this with international pressure Turkey will have to move out.

The TCs also have to commit to returning Maras and settlers so that GCs feel confident to provide the initial support necessary to make this viable. Other economic measures should also be taken to lessen the financial burden on the south but everone has to think long term and consider the benefits.

Agreed. It will take a long time, a very long time.

Can you envision some way of hastening this process? Just say NO to Turkey with some secret talks with the GCs in the background perhaps?

The problem with this is that Turkey will undoubtely view this as an insurgency which it will crush.

The correct channels would be to go through the EU.