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[ZoC]

This would definitely be a development that would follow the agreement financially support the TCs giving them the freedom to tell Turkey to not interfere in their affairs and therefore be more accommodating to Gc demands in taking measure jointly to resolve matters.

this would definitely be a development that would follow the agreement to kiss my arse.

[Me Ed]

Cant you guys be grown up and forget the name calling and squabbling for just a few minutes and be serious, why not try and approach how this could and suggest ways of getting Turkey to leave after securing the financial support for the TCs, it appears to me that you are not very serious about solving anything.

The opening of Famagusta under EU/UN supervision would give the TCs some financial support.

Why are you guys not pushing for it?

Not enough cant you see that without financial backing the TCs are bound to do what Turkey says, free them from these shackles and secure what you feel necessary and the whole impasse will be resolved. You have to have the balls to do this and I think the GCs are clearly lacking the desire or the vision to work with the TCs to move forward.

Okay, but would you agree that such a move would be in the right direction to foster that vision to work together to move forward?

Definitely 100%.

Great, I too agree that the opening of Famagusta port would be one of the biggest leaps to foster that vision.

We would be working together, prospering together and who knows what this would lead to.

This would definitely be a development that would follow the agreement financially support the TCs giving them the freedom to tell Turkey to not interfere in their affairs and therefore be more accommodating to Gc demands in taking measure jointly to resolve matters.

It does seem the wrong way round for doing things to me.

If the TCs were to push for this bilateral agreement on Famagusta with the GCs, it would show a sincere commitment on their part for removing Turkey from our affairs.

This would be far more easier, in my view, than Turkey even allowing the TCs to accept financial help from the RoC.

Its also worth remembering that post solution, the EU will expend considerable resources in developing the north, so this agreement you seek already exists.

[Viewpoint]

This would definitely be a development that would follow the agreement financially support the TCs giving them the freedom to tell Turkey to not interfere in their affairs and therefore be more accommodating to Gc demands in taking measure jointly to resolve matters.

this would definitely be a development that would follow the agreement to kiss my arse.

Only to be expected from someone as limited as yourself.

[Viewpoint]

Cant you guys be grown up and forget the name calling and squabbling for just a few minutes and be serious, why not try and approach how this could and suggest ways of getting Turkey to leave after securing the financial support for the TCs, it appears to me that you are not very serious about solving anything.

The opening of Famagusta under EU/UN supervision would give the TCs some financial support.

Why are you guys not pushing for it?

Not enough cant you see that without financial backing the TCs are bound to do what Turkey says, free them from these shackles and secure what you feel necessary and the whole impasse will be resolved. You have to have the balls to do this and I think the GCs are clearly lacking the desire or the vision to work with the TCs to move forward.

Okay, but would you agree that such a move would be in the right direction to foster that vision to work together to move forward?

Definitely 100%.

Great, I too agree that the opening of Famagusta port would be one of the biggest leaps to foster that vision.

We would be working together, prospering together and who knows what this would lead to.

This would definitely be a development that would follow the agreement financially support the TCs giving them the freedom to tell Turkey to not interfere in their affairs and therefore be more accommodating to Gc demands in taking measure jointly to resolve matters.

It does seem the wrong way round for doing things to me.

If the TCs were to push for this bilateral agreement on Famagusta with the GCs, it would show a sincere commitment on their part for removing Turkey from our affairs.

This would be far more easier, in my view, than Turkey even allowing the TCs to accept financial help from the RoC.

Its also worth remembering that post solution, the EU will expend considerable resources in developing the north, so this agreement you seek already exists.

You seem to have missed the point how do we stand up to Turkey when they fund the north? its not different from the situation we have now, without an alternative funding to allow TCs to break free from Turkeys involvement you dont stand a chance and we continue the Turkificaiton process, GCs really have to have the vision to think outside the box and take the bold steps necessary to remove the status quo once and for all.

[ZoC]

This would definitely be a development that would follow the agreement financially support the TCs giving them the freedom to tell Turkey to not interfere in their affairs and therefore be more accommodating to Gc demands in taking measure jointly to resolve matters.

this would definitely be a development that would follow the agreement to kiss my arse.

Only to be expected from someone as limited as yourself.

that's exactly what i was thinking about u with ur ridiculous suggestion that free cypriots should bank roll the occupied north of their country while still occupied by an unrepentant invader. ur not even limited, ur just a sole trader of garbage.

[Get Real!]

...how do we stand up to Turkey when they fund the north?

You cannot and most "TCs" do not want to, and that's how it's going to stay!

The true Turkish Cypriots are either already living in the free areas of the RoC or will move to the free areas soon; but they'd better hurry while they can, because the rest will have NO CHANCE whatsoever of ever coming back to Cyprus.

Turkey's destiny has already been set and nothing can turn the clock back anymore as she is heading straight for disaster.

[Viewpoint]

This would definitely be a development that would follow the agreement financially support the TCs giving them the freedom to tell Turkey to not interfere in their affairs and therefore be more accommodating to Gc demands in taking measure jointly to resolve matters.

this would definitely be a development that would follow the agreement to kiss my arse.

Only to be expected from someone as limited as yourself.

that's exactly what i was thinking about u with ur ridiculous suggestion that free cypriots should bank roll the occupied north of their country while still occupied by an unrepentant invader. ur not even limited, ur just a sole trader of garbage.

People with limited mental capacity cannot think outside of the box and are condemned to ignorance and in the case more of the same status quo.

[runaway]

Turkey's destiny has already been set and nothing can turn the clock back anymore as she is heading straight for disaster.

I thought hell-ass was the bankrupt one and Turkiye growing 10% in first half of 2010.

[Viewpoint]

...how do we stand up to Turkey when they fund the north?

You cannot and most "TCs" do not want to, and that's how it's going to stay!

The true Turkish Cypriots are either already living in the free areas of the RoC or will move to the free areas soon; but they'd better hurry while they can, because the rest will have NO CHANCE whatsoever of ever coming back to Cyprus.

Turkey's destiny has already been set and nothing can turn the clock back anymore as she is heading straight for disaster.

So you have given up on uniting with the north?

[Me Ed]

Cant you guys be grown up and forget the name calling and squabbling for just a few minutes and be serious, why not try and approach how this could and suggest ways of getting Turkey to leave after securing the financial support for the TCs, it appears to me that you are not very serious about solving anything.

The opening of Famagusta under EU/UN supervision would give the TCs some financial support.

Why are you guys not pushing for it?

Not enough cant you see that without financial backing the TCs are bound to do what Turkey says, free them from these shackles and secure what you feel necessary and the whole impasse will be resolved. You have to have the balls to do this and I think the GCs are clearly lacking the desire or the vision to work with the TCs to move forward.

Okay, but would you agree that such a move would be in the right direction to foster that vision to work together to move forward?

Definitely 100%.

Great, I too agree that the opening of Famagusta port would be one of the biggest leaps to foster that vision.

We would be working together, prospering together and who knows what this would lead to.

This would definitely be a development that would follow the agreement financially support the TCs giving them the freedom to tell Turkey to not interfere in their affairs and therefore be more accommodating to Gc demands in taking measure jointly to resolve matters.

It does seem the wrong way round for doing things to me.

If the TCs were to push for this bilateral agreement on Famagusta with the GCs, it would show a sincere commitment on their part for removing Turkey from our affairs.

This would be far more easier, in my view, than Turkey even allowing the TCs to accept financial help from the RoC.

Its also worth remembering that post solution, the EU will expend considerable resources in developing the north, so this agreement you seek already exists.

You seem to have missed the point how do we stand up to Turkey when they fund the north? its not different from the situation we have now, without an alternative funding to allow TCs to break free from Turkeys involvement you dont stand a chance and we continue the Turkificaiton process, GCs really have to have the vision to think outside the box and take the bold steps necessary to remove the status quo once and for all.

You stand up to Turkey by gradually co-operating with the RoC on mutual projects that would benefit both communities.

There is an offer on the table for Famagusta, and who knows, it might shortly be followed by Ercan followed by trade.

No amount of money is going to enable you to stand up to Turkey. Sincere co-operation with the RoC will.