Viewpoint wrote:450 years of cohabitation and 14 years of marriage provides the wife with plenty of rights to compensation.
just get back in the broom cupboard, woman, and stop being so annoying.
Viewpoint wrote:Kikapu wrote:Viewpoint wrote:What you conveniently avoid Kikapu was the wife was constantly abused only 3 years after marriage for 11 years. She did what she had to do in order to survive and force separation to save her life. Now when she asks for her rights and demands a divorce settlement but what her husbands says is that you are sleeping with another man who loves you have to get rid of him and sleep with me before I can consider giving you any of your rights. Now the wife says i do not want to sleep with you but I am willing to live in the same neighbourhood as long as you give me rights, but the husband still refuses because he still wants to screw his wife. She doesnt agree because she knows how badly he will treat her after he gets what he wants. So she says why dont you give me financial support from OUR income so that I to do not have to be to dependent on my current lover but you refuse because you think that if you keep all the recognition sorry income you will force her into submission, which has not worked for more than 47 years.
Sounds like you have been watching too much "EastEnders", VP.!:lol:
So what you are saying in a nutshell is, that "the husband" was/is a bastard, therefore he should pay up and "the wife" was/is never an opportunists to whore herself with others, but was/is instead a "good wife".??
Sounds like you have been watching too much "EastEnders", VP.!:lol:
Do you live in the real world? assets get split between couples when they go their separate ways, nothing new. Is everyone women who splits from her abusing husband and starts a new relationship a whore in your book?
"It is not permissible for Muslim women to marry non-Muslim men" (2 : 221 and 60:10).
The wife, however; loses her right of maintenance, according to the unanimous opinion of the Muslim jurists, in case of Nushuz, that is her hatred or defiance of husband or her attraction to another person.
Kikapu wrote:All4114All wrote:Kikapu wrote:All4114All wrote:Kikapu wrote:All4114All wrote:Great post. With no open option or choice for the T/C as I have said many times before we only hold our hands open for Turkey so I don't know why the South continues to accuse me as a citizen that my side is 'occupied*' when they are doing nothing about it what can I do when the person that is 'occupying*' is the person providing my food and water to survive.
*I used the words 'occupied' and 'occupying' because it is what the South looks upon the North as.
Hypothetically speaking, would you financially support your wife while she is screwing another man in broad daylight.??
If the answer is a "YES", then you are right, the RoC should pay up.!
Great Hypothetical . But that's where we have to elaborate why my wife is screwing the other man? If I am a husband that sits back on his couch and offers zero financial support to my wife but yet I have my own personal luxury then you can't blame my wife to go screw another man when I am not interested in her. But yet everyday I tell her I love you to smooth things out, but the cycle is repeated yet again.
So to decode the above from the wife (T/C) prospective why would I stay and stick with the south (Husband) when the other man (Turkey) is providing me with financial support and love even that I don't like it I need to survive and have the warm clothes for winter days.
In your haste to answer my question quickly with your above post, you have failed to fully understand what the question actually was about.
The question was not about whether "the wife" is a tramp or a whore, but whether "the husband" would support "the wife" financially when she is screwing another man in broad daylight.??
That's the question you need to answer, "the husband" and not "the wife".
You are however stating that "the wife" is a tramp and a whore who has no principles and all that matters to "the wife", is financial support and is willing to screw with anyone who gives it. Given what VP was asking for the RoC to do, would then confirm that "the wife" is a tramp and a whore, wouldn't you say.?
And btw, "the wife" has the opportunity to earn her own money and is already receiving job opportunities, hospital care, business opportunities, legal EU citizenship status, pension, a house and so on if she wants them from "the husband" due to legal obligations, even though "the wife" is already screwing with another man in broad daylight. But it seems that's not enough, so "the wife" now wants hard cash also on top for spending money from "the husband", therefore, should "the husband" give it to her.??
I can't wait for your answer. Just be careful how you answer it, that's all.!
First I was not accusing the wife being a tramp or a whore but to do what is necessary to survive.
Husband point of view.
If we take your point of view and the simple question should or shouldn't without elaborating on why then the simple answer is 'No' the husband shouldn't support the wife. But this is not a simple answer unfortunately.
If the husband treats his wife with respect and everything that any wife could want or dream of and the wife continues to screw another man then you have a very strong arguement and I can't disagree with you. But this is not the case unfortunately.
All you need to understand is before the wife goes and screws another man or to stop her from continuing to do so it needs the husband to show support which is the common denominated in all relationships. Now take away the husband and another man from her what she is left with is to fight for her own don't you think she has had enough fighting for survival in her life and just wants to live a good life?
The wife (North) is divorced from the husband (South):
Yes I agree the wife has opportunity under court ruling the Judge (eu) has given her legal obligations even if the husband does/ does not agree or is happy with. But what are the costs to have these opportunities? return to her bad husband? (my first post to answer your question) She would rather continue to fight for herself.
Just maybe the wife does not want another man and wants to continue to build a strong relationship with her husband, if only all she asks for is a happy marriage and together to stand side by side but the husband continues to neglect her. Well you can't blame her can you if she wants a divorce?
Although you ask me from the husband point of view to answer the question it is a simple No or Yes answer. But if I ask you the same from the wife point of view well now things start to get a better understanding of why.
"NO" was the correct answer!....Well Done.!
I was not asking about "the wife", therefore it is irrelevant everything you wrote about "the wife", even if she is a tramp and a whore as you have indicated that she is in your posts.!
CASE CLOSED !
However I did also write that if the below statement is true then I will be happy to agree with youBut this is not a simple answer unfortunately.
If the husband treats his wife with respect and everything that any wife could want or dream of and the wife continues to screw another man then you have a very strong arguement and I can't disagree with you. But this is not the case unfortunately.
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