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[vaughanwilliams]

These "loans" are the smaller part of the funding which are being repaid when possible, the loans were nonrepayable if you GCs would have agreed the AP.

Any which way you look at it… the “Turkish Cypriots” as a political entity is seriously BAD news for anyone to get entangled with!

I've compared the situation between the North and South of Cyprus with the East and West of Germany, and the fact that reunification nearly ruined the West German economy. In fact I believe the dust still hasn't settled on the state of their economy due to it.
Given that the TCs are not going away, the more you take over the North, the more of the financial baggage you will have to take on as well. Whatever they owe, you may have to pick up the best part of the tab.
Be careful what you wish for.

Yes... you wished for a cheap home in the sun, but instead got duped in parting with your grandchildren's inheritance for the right to trespass on someone else's property.

My grandchildren will be enjoying it long after you and I are gone.

[All4114All]

Great post. With no open option or choice for the T/C as I have said many times before we only hold our hands open for Turkey so I don't know why the South continues to accuse me as a citizen that my side is 'occupied*' when they are doing nothing about it what can I do when the person that is 'occupying*' is the person providing my food and water to survive.
*I used the words 'occupied' and 'occupying' because it is what the South looks upon the North as.

Hypothetically speaking, would you financially support your wife while she is screwing another man in broad daylight.??

If the answer is a "YES", then you are right, the RoC should pay up.!

Great Hypothetical . But that's where we have to elaborate why my wife is screwing the other man? If I am a husband that sits back on his couch and offers zero financial support to my wife but yet I have my own personal luxury then you can't blame my wife to go screw another man when I am not interested in her. But yet everyday I tell her I love you to smooth things out, but the cycle is repeated yet again.

So to decode the above from the wife (T/C) prospective why would I stay and stick with the south (Husband) when the other man (Turkey) is providing me with financial support and love even that I don't like it I need to survive and have the warm clothes for winter days.

[EPSILON]

Great post. With no open option or choice for the T/C as I have said many times before we only hold our hands open for Turkey so I don't know why the South continues to accuse me as a citizen that my side is 'occupied*' when they are doing nothing about it what can I do when the person that is 'occupying*' is the person providing my food and water to survive.
*I used the words 'occupied' and 'occupying' because it is what the South looks upon the North as.

Hypothetically speaking, would you financially support your wife while she is screwing another man in broad daylight.??

If the answer is a "YES", then you are right, the RoC should pay up.!

Great Hypothetical . But that's where we have to elaborate why my wife is screwing the other man? If I am a husband that sits back on his couch and offers zero financial support to my wife but yet I have my own personal luxury then you can't blame my wife to go screw another man when I am not interested in her. But yet everyday I tell her I love you to smooth things out, but the cycle is repeated yet again.

So to decode the above from the wife (T/C) prospective why would I stay and stick with the south (Husband) when the other man (Turkey) is providing me with financial support and love even that I don't like it I need to survive and have the warm clothes for winter days.

And what about the case your wife to cooperate with the other man , helping him to kill you or through you out of the house? Are you still ready to pay her?

[Gregory]

Great post. With no open option or choice for the T/C as I have said many times before we only hold our hands open for Turkey so I don't know why the South continues to accuse me as a citizen that my side is 'occupied*' when they are doing nothing about it what can I do when the person that is 'occupying*' is the person providing my food and water to survive.
*I used the words 'occupied' and 'occupying' because it is what the South looks upon the North as.

Hypothetically speaking, would you financially support your wife while she is screwing another man in broad daylight.??

If the answer is a "YES", then you are right, the RoC should pay up.!

Great Hypothetical . But that's where we have to elaborate why my wife is screwing the other man? If I am a husband that sits back on his couch and offers zero financial support to my wife but yet I have my own personal luxury then you can't blame my wife to go screw another man when I am not interested in her. But yet everyday I tell her I love you to smooth things out, but the cycle is repeated yet again.

So to decode the above from the wife (T/C) prospective why would I stay and stick with the south (Husband) when the other man (Turkey) is providing me with financial support and love even that I don't like it I need to survive and have the warm clothes for winter days.

Wow! Can I meet your wife? Any woman who wants to have sex with another man just because her husband sits on the couch is OK by me

[Oracle]

Here (All4114All), we have another example proving morality is unknown, let alone practiced, in the occupied north.

[All4114All]

Great post. With no open option or choice for the T/C as I have said many times before we only hold our hands open for Turkey so I don't know why the South continues to accuse me as a citizen that my side is 'occupied*' when they are doing nothing about it what can I do when the person that is 'occupying*' is the person providing my food and water to survive.
*I used the words 'occupied' and 'occupying' because it is what the South looks upon the North as.

Hypothetically speaking, would you financially support your wife while she is screwing another man in broad daylight.??

If the answer is a "YES", then you are right, the RoC should pay up.!

Great Hypothetical . But that's where we have to elaborate why my wife is screwing the other man? If I am a husband that sits back on his couch and offers zero financial support to my wife but yet I have my own personal luxury then you can't blame my wife to go screw another man when I am not interested in her. But yet everyday I tell her I love you to smooth things out, but the cycle is repeated yet again.

So to decode the above from the wife (T/C) prospective why would I stay and stick with the south (Husband) when the other man (Turkey) is providing me with financial support and love even that I don't like it I need to survive and have the warm clothes for winter days.

Wow! Can I meet your wife? Any woman who wants to have sex with another man just because her husband sits on the couch is OK by me

If you read it, it's not about just because sitting on the couch, I also said no financial support, and loss of interest in my wife. Basically treat her like a piece of garbage and expect her to stay with you. If that's your wife I feel so sorry for her.

And what about the case your wife to cooperate with the other man , helping him to kill you or through you out of the house? Are you still ready to pay her?

The pain suffered is on both sides not a one way street. But now we can start the blame game yet again.

Here (All4114All), we have another example proving morality is unknown, let alone practiced, in the occupied north.

But yet the moral of the South is perfect, not guilty in any way. Whatever. Do you see why by answering your own question we can't move forward or help each other out.

[Kikapu]

Great post. With no open option or choice for the T/C as I have said many times before we only hold our hands open for Turkey so I don't know why the South continues to accuse me as a citizen that my side is 'occupied*' when they are doing nothing about it what can I do when the person that is 'occupying*' is the person providing my food and water to survive.
*I used the words 'occupied' and 'occupying' because it is what the South looks upon the North as.

Hypothetically speaking, would you financially support your wife while she is screwing another man in broad daylight.??

If the answer is a "YES", then you are right, the RoC should pay up.!

Great Hypothetical . But that's where we have to elaborate why my wife is screwing the other man? If I am a husband that sits back on his couch and offers zero financial support to my wife but yet I have my own personal luxury then you can't blame my wife to go screw another man when I am not interested in her. But yet everyday I tell her I love you to smooth things out, but the cycle is repeated yet again.

So to decode the above from the wife (T/C) prospective why would I stay and stick with the south (Husband) when the other man (Turkey) is providing me with financial support and love even that I don't like it I need to survive and have the warm clothes for winter days.

In your haste to answer my question quickly with your above post, you have failed to fully understand what the question actually was about.

The question was not about whether "the wife" is a tramp or a whore, but whether "the husband" would support "the wife" financially when she is screwing another man in broad daylight.??

That's the question you need to answer, "the husband" and not "the wife".

You are however stating that "the wife" is a tramp and a whore who has no principles and all that matters to "the wife", is financial support and is willing to screw with anyone who gives it. Given what VP was asking for the RoC to do, would then confirm that "the wife" is a tramp and a whore, wouldn't you say.?

And btw, "the wife" has the opportunity to earn her own money and is already receiving job opportunities, hospital care, business opportunities, legal EU citizenship status, pension, a house and so on if she wants them from "the husband" due to legal obligations, even though "the wife" is already screwing with another man in broad daylight. But it seems that's not enough, so "the wife" now wants hard cash also on top for spending money from "the husband", therefore, should "the husband" give it to her.??

I can't wait for your answer. Just be careful how you answer it, that's all.!

[All4114All]

Great post. With no open option or choice for the T/C as I have said many times before we only hold our hands open for Turkey so I don't know why the South continues to accuse me as a citizen that my side is 'occupied*' when they are doing nothing about it what can I do when the person that is 'occupying*' is the person providing my food and water to survive.
*I used the words 'occupied' and 'occupying' because it is what the South looks upon the North as.

Hypothetically speaking, would you financially support your wife while she is screwing another man in broad daylight.??

If the answer is a "YES", then you are right, the RoC should pay up.!

Great Hypothetical . But that's where we have to elaborate why my wife is screwing the other man? If I am a husband that sits back on his couch and offers zero financial support to my wife but yet I have my own personal luxury then you can't blame my wife to go screw another man when I am not interested in her. But yet everyday I tell her I love you to smooth things out, but the cycle is repeated yet again.

So to decode the above from the wife (T/C) prospective why would I stay and stick with the south (Husband) when the other man (Turkey) is providing me with financial support and love even that I don't like it I need to survive and have the warm clothes for winter days.

In your haste to answer my question quickly with your above post, you have failed to fully understand what the question actually was about.

The question was not about whether "the wife" is a tramp or a whore, but whether "the husband" would support "the wife" financially when she is screwing another man in broad daylight.??

That's the question you need to answer, "the husband" and not "the wife".

You are however stating that "the wife" is a tramp and a whore who has no principles and all that matters to "the wife", is financial support and is willing to screw with anyone who gives it. Given what VP was asking for the RoC to do, would then confirm that "the wife" is a tramp and a whore, wouldn't you say.?

And btw, "the wife" has the opportunity to earn her own money and is already receiving job opportunities, hospital care, business opportunities, legal EU citizenship status, pension, a house and so on if she wants them from "the husband" due to legal obligations, even though "the wife" is already screwing with another man in broad daylight. But it seems that's not enough, so "the wife" now wants hard cash also on top for spending money from "the husband", therefore, should "the husband" give it to her.??

I can't wait for your answer. Just be careful how you answer it, that's all.!

First I was not accusing the wife being a tramp or a whore but to do what is necessary to survive.

Husband point of view.
If we take your point of view and the simple question should or shouldn't without elaborating on why then the simple answer is 'No' the husband shouldn't support the wife. But this is not a simple answer unfortunately.

If the husband treats his wife with respect and everything that any wife could want or dream of and the wife continues to screw another man then you have a very strong arguement and I can't disagree with you. But this is not the case unfortunately.

All you need to understand is before the wife goes and screws another man or to stop her from continuing to do so it needs the husband to show support which is the common denominated in all relationships. Now take away the husband and another man from her what she is left with is to fight for her own don't you think she has had enough fighting for survival in her life and just wants to live a good life?

The wife (North) is divorced from the husband (South):
Yes I agree the wife has opportunity under court ruling the Judge (eu) has given her legal obligations even if the husband does/ does not agree or is happy with. But what are the costs to have these opportunities? return to her bad husband? (my first post to answer your question) She would rather continue to fight for herself.

Just maybe the wife does not want another man and wants to continue to build a strong relationship with her husband, if only all she asks for is a happy marriage and together to stand side by side but the husband continues to neglect her. Well you can't blame her can you if she wants a divorce?

Although you ask me from the husband point of view to answer the question it is a simple No or Yes answer. But if I ask you the same from the wife point of view well now things start to get a better understanding of why.

[Get Real!]

But according to Islamic law the wife has no say in the matter!

[Oracle]

"All4114All" ... morally slain, by Kikapu!