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[ZoC]

.....for your balanced and considerate approach,for your deep insight and sensitivity,for your wide geopolitical acumen,for your realistic,sensible, and humanitarian approach to a Solution, YOU DESERVE MY UTMOST RESPECT AND ADMIRATION...Thank you!

Thank you for your words, BirKibrisli. Although I don't think it's something so special that deserves admiration.

birk's so full of shit, isn't he?

That's not what I said, I'm honored by his words for me, especially since he's older than me and has first-hand experience as I understand, but I personally don't think it deserves so much admiration, because there are plenty of people who can make such and better thoughts on this issue.

i agree. birk's got a penchant for hyperbole.

[BirKibrisli]

BirKibrisli,

I don’t have a problem with you admitting that you and your family were TMT members/participants, but I DO have a problem when you then say things like…

The beauty of the digital age is that these little posts of ours will survive us,in all likelihood...future generations of Cypriots will be gobsmacked to see how intransigent your stand was...You will be condemned forever for causing untold damage to the people of Cyprus...Nothing will save you from history's judgement...And that judgement will be very harsh indeed..

…to people like Piratis who did not even exist in those days!


In other words, I just can’t stand your ugly hypocrisy!

There is no hypocrisy,ugly or otherwise...

Piratis is a callous and dangerous GC propagandist who is trying to justify the pain and suffering inflicted upon the TC people during the 60s and early part of 70s...He is attempting to rewrite our bloody history to justify the treacherous act of wanting to gift my country to Greece...I am simply telling him that he will not escape the harsh judgement of history...Because the truth has a way of coming out in the end...

BirKibrisli, stop feeling that T/cs are the victims of this tragety we are leaving in Cyprus.

Start to be pragmatist and consider the "real fact" that T/cs ,as remains of Ottomans were just used by Turkey as their Trojan horse to re-enter and re-establish their lost rights in the Island.

Turks and T/cs are a "foreign body" in Cyprus. Only one way is available Cyprus to became Turkish. Turkish army to move and occupy the South also and to wait 400 years. -If no one appear in G/cs society to send you to hell then there is a possibility. You have other 360 years ahead..you hv to wait

Have you ever considered one thing...The Ottomans ruled Cyprus for over 300 years..That is a very very long time in recorded history...How and why did the GO Church and GC community came out of Ottoman rule stronger than ever before????Only logical and sensible answers will be considered...

[BirKibrisli]

.....for your balanced and considerate approach,for your deep insight and sensitivity,for your wide geopolitical acumen,for your realistic,sensible, and humanitarian approach to a Solution, YOU DESERVE MY UTMOST RESPECT AND ADMIRATION...Thank you!

Thank you for your words, BirKibrisli. Although I don't think it's something so special that deserves admiration.

birk's so full of shit, isn't he?

I don't have a constipation problem these days,Mala,thank you very much...That poblem is very serious amongst certain GC fanatics and propagandists on this site...They simply cannot stand and balanced ,sensible,knowledgeable,arguments relating to Cyprop...Your hate-filled and bitter selves only want outright condemnation of the Turks and the TCs...Well...get used to it...The world is finally realising you have sold them a pub in form of geopolitical,historical facts for too long...Your mask is down...And your ugly propaganda/disinformation tactics plain for all to see...

[BirKibrisli]

.....for your balanced and considerate approach,for your deep insight and sensitivity,for your wide geopolitical acumen,for your realistic,sensible, and humanitarian approach to a Solution, YOU DESERVE MY UTMOST RESPECT AND ADMIRATION...Thank you!

Thank you for your words, BirKibrisli. Although I don't think it's something so special that deserves admiration.

birk's so full of shit, isn't he?

That's not what I said, I'm honored by his words for me, especially since he's older than me and has first-hand experience as I understand, but I personally don't think it deserves so much admiration, because there are plenty of people who can make such and better thoughts on this issue.

i agree. birk's got a penchant for hyperbole.

If you have read Afro's discussions with Piratis and you don't believe it deserves admiration for his/her realistic, logical,sensible,balanced and humanitarian approach,you are in serious need of constipation treatment,Mala...Get it before it really becomes an incurable health problem for you...

[ZoC]

.....for your balanced and considerate approach,for your deep insight and sensitivity,for your wide geopolitical acumen,for your realistic,sensible, and humanitarian approach to a Solution, YOU DESERVE MY UTMOST RESPECT AND ADMIRATION...Thank you!

Thank you for your words, BirKibrisli. Although I don't think it's something so special that deserves admiration.

birk's so full of shit, isn't he?

I don't have a constipation problem these days,Mala,thank you very much...That poblem is very serious amongst certain GC fanatics and propagandists on this site...They simply cannot stand and balanced ,sensible,knowledgeable,arguments relating to Cyprop...Your hate-filled and bitter selves only want outright condemnation of the Turks and the TCs...Well...get used to it...The world is finally realising you have sold them a pub in form of geopolitical,historical facts for too long...Your mask is down...And your ugly propaganda/disinformation tactics plain for all to see...

I've no idea wot ur on about. But ur hyperbole is great fun.

[BirKibrisli]

.....for your balanced and considerate approach,for your deep insight and sensitivity,for your wide geopolitical acumen,for your realistic,sensible, and humanitarian approach to a Solution, YOU DESERVE MY UTMOST RESPECT AND ADMIRATION...Thank you!

Thank you for your words, BirKibrisli. Although I don't think it's something so special that deserves admiration.

birk's so full of shit, isn't he?

I don't have a constipation problem these days,Mala,thank you very much...That poblem is very serious amongst certain GC fanatics and propagandists on this site...They simply cannot stand and balanced ,sensible,knowledgeable,arguments relating to Cyprop...Your hate-filled and bitter selves only want outright condemnation of the Turks and the TCs...Well...get used to it...The world is finally realising you have sold them a pub in form of geopolitical,historical facts for too long...Your mask is down...And your ugly propaganda/disinformation tactics plain for all to see...

I've no idea wot ur on about. But ur hyperbole is great fun.

You know exactly what I am on about...That is the reason for your frustration...The game is up,time to get real and serious...We dont have too long to salvage something like a workable solution!

[ZoC]

.....for your balanced and considerate approach,for your deep insight and sensitivity,for your wide geopolitical acumen,for your realistic,sensible, and humanitarian approach to a Solution, YOU DESERVE MY UTMOST RESPECT AND ADMIRATION...Thank you!

Thank you for your words, BirKibrisli. Although I don't think it's something so special that deserves admiration.

birk's so full of shit, isn't he?

I don't have a constipation problem these days,Mala,thank you very much...That poblem is very serious amongst certain GC fanatics and propagandists on this site...They simply cannot stand and balanced ,sensible,knowledgeable,arguments relating to Cyprop...Your hate-filled and bitter selves only want outright condemnation of the Turks and the TCs...Well...get used to it...The world is finally realising you have sold them a pub in form of geopolitical,historical facts for too long...Your mask is down...And your ugly propaganda/disinformation tactics plain for all to see...

I've no idea wot ur on about. But ur hyperbole is great fun.

You know exactly what I am on about...That is the reason for your frustration...

wot gave u the idea i was frustrated?

The game is up,time to get real and serious...We dont have too long to salvage something like a workable solution!

stop it...

relax... be more cypriot...

[Nikitas]

Aforasiatis wrote:

"if the GCs do a successful military operation to take over North Cyprus, they will be conquerors and not liberators."

Really? And what if American Indians rise up, succesfully retake Arizona and proclaim independence? Would they be conquerors or liberators?

Academic hypothesis aside, let us look into the future as portrayed by Neo Ottomanism champion and Turkish FM Davutoglu and the vision is not at all nice. So the choice is not whether we like one path or another. We are obliged to resist the fate drawn up for us by others. We do not and will not fall in this bastardised state of being called "Turkish sphere of influence". It is unlikely that any of the people Davut sees as coming under this "sphere" (Lebanese, Syrians, Israelis, Egyptians, Bulgarians, Greeks, Albanians, ALgerians) want to either. THey read about four hundred years without a single univeristy, with no local culture to speak of, being cut off from the Renaiassance, and reasonably infer that the future might be as bad as the past.

Not all lof us look to the past for ideas when it comes to supporting, or rejecting, some things involved in a solution package. Some look at future survival. If the TCs do not want to survuve as a comunity, and it seems they do not, then we will go it alone.

[Afroasiatis]

Aforasiatis wrote:

"if the GCs do a successful military operation to take over North Cyprus, they will be conquerors and not liberators."

Really? And what if American Indians rise up, succesfully retake Arizona and proclaim independence? Would they be conquerors or liberators?

Remember, we speak not about today, but about what happens in 2000 years time. I doubt that this will be different for American Indians.

[Get Real!]

Aforasiatis wrote:

"if the GCs do a successful military operation to take over North Cyprus, they will be conquerors and not liberators."

Really? And what if American Indians rise up, succesfully retake Arizona and proclaim independence? Would they be conquerors or liberators?

Remember, we speak not about today, but about what happens in 2000 years time. I doubt that this will be different for American Indians.

What is it about those living in Athens and Greece in general, and they’re always posting the weirdest things…