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[Piratis]

The selective look at history comes only from you mate. You forget that the inter-communal conflict was started from you when you collaborated with foreign imperialists and you attacked us in the 50s. Our enemy was the Colonialists, not your minority. You became the enemy only when you attacked us.

And no, the racist system you forced on Cyprus in 1960 so you can have Ottoman style privileges on our expense was not a good environment to build trust and friendship either.

This is exactly what I am saying Bir. For as long as you are trying to oppress us and violate our rights we will fight back and there will be a Cyprus Problem. After 4+ centuries of oppressing us you haven't yet realized that we will never accept to be your slaves?

Enosis was the right of the Cypriot people. What makes you think that Cyprus can be part of the British or Ottoman empires against the will of the Cypriot people, but can not be part of a Greek state if this is what the vast majority of Cypriots themselves want? And still we agreed to compromise and accept that Cyprus will not be part of the Greek state, but independent instead. But instead of real independence what was forced on us in 1960 was some racist undemocratic constitution, with foreign bases and foreign armies which was making Cyprus some banana republic of the British and the Turks.

And you avoided answering the question: Is there any difference for TCs between being an ethnic minority in a Greek state (with Cyprus part of this Greek state) and being an ethnic minority within an independent Cypriot state? History proves beyond any doubt that for TCs there is no difference whatsoever. Enosis is an excuse that expired decades ago so stop hiding behind enosis to excuse your racist demands that are the same from 1571 until 2010: To have the Greek Cypriots as second category people so you can undemocratically control Cyprus and enjoy privileges on our expense.

[B25]

Why is it that Bananiot knows exactly where I am coming from? and the rest of you do not???

Mate, you may wish you rephrase that, otherwise people may get the wrong (right) idea.

How do you take him anyway?? Just curios.

Little minds are easily amused...

There are very few people in this Forum who gives any credibility to GC cause...Bananiot is the chief amongst them...Without his input we'd soon decide you are all a bunch of racist,fascist,chauvenistic bigots...You should kiss his backside every day and twice on Sundays...

Ha Ha, no we leave that to your lot as he is YOUR mouthpiece

[Bananiot]

Indeed, I am the mouthpiece (of myself first) of Birkibrisli, Akinci, Kutli Erk and the rest of the Cyprus-loving TC's who have struggled under the most adverse of conditions to see a free Cyprus, often paying a hefty price for their brave stance.

On the contrary, you play the tune of the most reactionary forces in the TC community and you behave in exactly the way they want you to behave. On Sunday they smashed a few more TC cars in Nicosia and next, people will be targetted too, believe me. Such "heroic" acts by the uncompromising patriots have brought the Turkish army to Cyprus. And, with your stupidity and fanatic nationalism, it is here to stay for ever but of course, it is always the others that are to blame ... suckers.

[B25]

Indeed, I am the mouthpiece (of myself first) of Birkibrisli, Akinci, Kutli Erk and the rest of the Cyprus-loving TC's who have struggled under the most adverse of conditions to see a free Cyprus, often paying a hefty price for their brave stance.

On the contrary, you play the tune of the most reactionary forces in the TC community and you behave in exactly the way they want you to behave. On Sunday they smashed a few more TC cars in Nicosia and next, people will be targetted too, believe me. Such "heroic" acts by the uncompromising patriots have brought the Turkish army to Cyprus. And, with your stupidity and fanatic nationalism, it is here to stay for ever but of course, it is always the others that are to blame ... suckers.

Bananiot, you are confusing the acts of a mindless few to demonise the whole GC community. No one condones such sick behaviour, not even me!

You only had to see the Anorthosis trouble in the match on Sat, it was disgraceful and those guys need a good beating, but it was a handful if idiots against a staduim full of no trouble people.

The problem with you, is you target us all in your tarring and YOU only ever blame us.

My postings on this board are mostly reactionary, because I will not be shat upon and then be expected to say thanks to the Turks, unlike you who accepts is all.

Anyone who doesn't agree with you and your mates must be a facist, a cretin, a bigot a rejectionist or whatever other label you have for us. I say keep it. It's not enough that they hold the country to ranson, we have to have Bananiot force feeding us crap how it is all our fault and that the TCs are totally innocent in all this, thats what I cannot and will not stomach.

We will do what we will do to liberate Cyprus, with or without you.

[Bananiot]

We will do what we will do to liberate Cyprus ...

Most of the problems we face have been created by people who wanted to liberate Cyprus. Blaming Bananiots for their failure does not make an iota of a difference.

[BirKibrisli]

The selective look at history comes only from you mate. You forget that the inter-communal conflict was started from you when you collaborated with foreign imperialists and you attacked us in the 50s. Our enemy was the Colonialists, not your minority. You became the enemy only when you attacked us.

And no, the racist system you forced on Cyprus in 1960 so you can have Ottoman style privileges on our expense was not a good environment to build trust and friendship either.

This is exactly what I am saying Bir. For as long as you are trying to oppress us and violate our rights we will fight back and there will be a Cyprus Problem. After 4+ centuries of oppressing us you haven't yet realized that we will never accept to be your slaves?

Enosis was the right of the Cypriot people. What makes you think that Cyprus can be part of the British or Ottoman empires against the will of the Cypriot people, but can not be part of a Greek state if this is what the vast majority of Cypriots themselves want? And still we agreed to compromise and accept that Cyprus will not be part of the Greek state, but independent instead. But instead of real independence what was forced on us in 1960 was some racist undemocratic constitution, with foreign bases and foreign armies which was making Cyprus some banana republic of the British and the Turks.

And you avoided answering the question: Is there any difference for TCs between being an ethnic minority in a Greek state (with Cyprus part of this Greek state) and being an ethnic minority within an independent Cypriot state? History proves beyond any doubt that for TCs there is no difference whatsoever. Enosis is an excuse that expired decades ago so stop hiding behind enosis to excuse your racist demands that are the same from 1571 until 2010: To have the Greek Cypriots as second category people so you can undemocratically control Cyprus and enjoy privileges on our expense.

You obviously believe that repeating the Official GC propaganda lines endlessly you will find someone to believe you...Unfortunately for you the international powers that be know exactly what happened in Cyprus...They will not say so openly ,but they know the desperate situation the TCs were in before 1974...That is why you are getting no help from anyone,including your beloved Greece for whom you wanted to sell your soul...Thanks to the brave stand of the TCs you now have your own independent country,and you are so ungrateful you will not even acknowledge the TC contribution to the independence of Cyprus...You need to have a very good look at yourself and do some soul searching ,mate...Nothing else will get you out of the mess you are in...

[Piratis]

The selective look at history comes only from you mate. You forget that the inter-communal conflict was started from you when you collaborated with foreign imperialists and you attacked us in the 50s. Our enemy was the Colonialists, not your minority. You became the enemy only when you attacked us.

And no, the racist system you forced on Cyprus in 1960 so you can have Ottoman style privileges on our expense was not a good environment to build trust and friendship either.

This is exactly what I am saying Bir. For as long as you are trying to oppress us and violate our rights we will fight back and there will be a Cyprus Problem. After 4+ centuries of oppressing us you haven't yet realized that we will never accept to be your slaves?

Enosis was the right of the Cypriot people. What makes you think that Cyprus can be part of the British or Ottoman empires against the will of the Cypriot people, but can not be part of a Greek state if this is what the vast majority of Cypriots themselves want? And still we agreed to compromise and accept that Cyprus will not be part of the Greek state, but independent instead. But instead of real independence what was forced on us in 1960 was some racist undemocratic constitution, with foreign bases and foreign armies which was making Cyprus some banana republic of the British and the Turks.

And you avoided answering the question: Is there any difference for TCs between being an ethnic minority in a Greek state (with Cyprus part of this Greek state) and being an ethnic minority within an independent Cypriot state? History proves beyond any doubt that for TCs there is no difference whatsoever. Enosis is an excuse that expired decades ago so stop hiding behind enosis to excuse your racist demands that are the same from 1571 until 2010: To have the Greek Cypriots as second category people so you can undemocratically control Cyprus and enjoy privileges on our expense.

You obviously believe that repeating the Official GC propaganda lines endlessly you will find someone to believe you...Unfortunately for you the international powers that be know exactly what happened in Cyprus...They will not say so openly ,but they know the desperate situation the TCs were in before 1974...That is why you are getting no help from anyone,including your beloved Greece for whom you wanted to sell your soul...Thanks to the brave stand of the TCs you now have your own independent country,and you are so ungrateful you will not even acknowledge the TC contribution to the independence of Cyprus...You need to have a very good look at yourself and do some soul searching ,mate...Nothing else will get you out of the mess you are in...

It is exactly because the world knows what happened that the pseudo state your are trying to create on the land you stole from us remains unrecognized.

Even your parters in crime, the British and the Americans, and even other Turkic countries, they can not afford to openly support such an obvious crime against Cyprus.

What "TC contribution to the independence" are you talking about? Are you kidding me? The TCs were very happy with both the Ottoman rule and the British rule. They never said anything about independence. The first to propose independence was Makarios, but you collaborated with the foreign Imperialists so Cyprus would not be given a true independence, but instead be made some Banana Republic with foreign troops, foreign bases and foreign control.

[BirKibrisli]

The selective look at history comes only from you mate. You forget that the inter-communal conflict was started from you when you collaborated with foreign imperialists and you attacked us in the 50s. Our enemy was the Colonialists, not your minority. You became the enemy only when you attacked us.

And no, the racist system you forced on Cyprus in 1960 so you can have Ottoman style privileges on our expense was not a good environment to build trust and friendship either.

This is exactly what I am saying Bir. For as long as you are trying to oppress us and violate our rights we will fight back and there will be a Cyprus Problem. After 4+ centuries of oppressing us you haven't yet realized that we will never accept to be your slaves?

Enosis was the right of the Cypriot people. What makes you think that Cyprus can be part of the British or Ottoman empires against the will of the Cypriot people, but can not be part of a Greek state if this is what the vast majority of Cypriots themselves want? And still we agreed to compromise and accept that Cyprus will not be part of the Greek state, but independent instead. But instead of real independence what was forced on us in 1960 was some racist undemocratic constitution, with foreign bases and foreign armies which was making Cyprus some banana republic of the British and the Turks.

And you avoided answering the question: Is there any difference for TCs between being an ethnic minority in a Greek state (with Cyprus part of this Greek state) and being an ethnic minority within an independent Cypriot state? History proves beyond any doubt that for TCs there is no difference whatsoever. Enosis is an excuse that expired decades ago so stop hiding behind enosis to excuse your racist demands that are the same from 1571 until 2010: To have the Greek Cypriots as second category people so you can undemocratically control Cyprus and enjoy privileges on our expense.

You obviously believe that repeating the Official GC propaganda lines endlessly you will find someone to believe you...Unfortunately for you the international powers that be know exactly what happened in Cyprus...They will not say so openly ,but they know the desperate situation the TCs were in before 1974...That is why you are getting no help from anyone,including your beloved Greece for whom you wanted to sell your soul...Thanks to the brave stand of the TCs you now have your own independent country,and you are so ungrateful you will not even acknowledge the TC contribution to the independence of Cyprus...You need to have a very good look at yourself and do some soul searching ,mate...Nothing else will get you out of the mess you are in...

It is exactly because the world knows what happened that the pseudo state your are trying to create on the land you stole from us remains unrecognized.

Even your parters in crime, the British and the Americans, and even other Turkic countries, they can not afford to openly support such an obvious crime against Cyprus.

What "TC contribution to the independence" are you talking about? Are you kidding me? The TCs were very happy with both the Ottoman rule and the British rule. They never said anything about independence. The first to propose independence was Makarios, but you collaborated with the foreign Imperialists so Cyprus would not be given a true independence, but instead be made some Banana Republic with foreign troops, foreign bases and foreign control.

You missed the whole point,Piratis...

If it wasn't for the TC community standing firm against Enosis with Greece,you'd never have an independent RoC now...You'd be a province of Greece,most probably looked down upon and patronised! Where is your appreciation of that fact???

[Piratis]

The selective look at history comes only from you mate. You forget that the inter-communal conflict was started from you when you collaborated with foreign imperialists and you attacked us in the 50s. Our enemy was the Colonialists, not your minority. You became the enemy only when you attacked us.

And no, the racist system you forced on Cyprus in 1960 so you can have Ottoman style privileges on our expense was not a good environment to build trust and friendship either.

This is exactly what I am saying Bir. For as long as you are trying to oppress us and violate our rights we will fight back and there will be a Cyprus Problem. After 4+ centuries of oppressing us you haven't yet realized that we will never accept to be your slaves?

Enosis was the right of the Cypriot people. What makes you think that Cyprus can be part of the British or Ottoman empires against the will of the Cypriot people, but can not be part of a Greek state if this is what the vast majority of Cypriots themselves want? And still we agreed to compromise and accept that Cyprus will not be part of the Greek state, but independent instead. But instead of real independence what was forced on us in 1960 was some racist undemocratic constitution, with foreign bases and foreign armies which was making Cyprus some banana republic of the British and the Turks.

And you avoided answering the question: Is there any difference for TCs between being an ethnic minority in a Greek state (with Cyprus part of this Greek state) and being an ethnic minority within an independent Cypriot state? History proves beyond any doubt that for TCs there is no difference whatsoever. Enosis is an excuse that expired decades ago so stop hiding behind enosis to excuse your racist demands that are the same from 1571 until 2010: To have the Greek Cypriots as second category people so you can undemocratically control Cyprus and enjoy privileges on our expense.

You obviously believe that repeating the Official GC propaganda lines endlessly you will find someone to believe you...Unfortunately for you the international powers that be know exactly what happened in Cyprus...They will not say so openly ,but they know the desperate situation the TCs were in before 1974...That is why you are getting no help from anyone,including your beloved Greece for whom you wanted to sell your soul...Thanks to the brave stand of the TCs you now have your own independent country,and you are so ungrateful you will not even acknowledge the TC contribution to the independence of Cyprus...You need to have a very good look at yourself and do some soul searching ,mate...Nothing else will get you out of the mess you are in...

It is exactly because the world knows what happened that the pseudo state your are trying to create on the land you stole from us remains unrecognized.

Even your parters in crime, the British and the Americans, and even other Turkic countries, they can not afford to openly support such an obvious crime against Cyprus.

What "TC contribution to the independence" are you talking about? Are you kidding me? The TCs were very happy with both the Ottoman rule and the British rule. They never said anything about independence. The first to propose independence was Makarios, but you collaborated with the foreign Imperialists so Cyprus would not be given a true independence, but instead be made some Banana Republic with foreign troops, foreign bases and foreign control.

You missed the whole point,Piratis...

If it wasn't for the TC community standing firm against Enosis with Greece,you'd never have an independent RoC now...You'd be a province of Greece,most probably looked down upon and patronised! Where is your appreciation of that fact???

If it wasn't for the Turks and the British (the TCs were just their pawns) Cyprus would have been part of the Greek state along with all other Greek islands, united without refugees and the problems that you created to our island. It would be 1000 times better if Cyprus was in the same position as Crete or Rhodes. So stop acting as if you did to us a favor, because what you really did was to help the foreign imperialists to screw up our island.

Unfortunately Cyprus is too small and in a very important location to be allowed to be truly independent. If we believed that we could be truly independent then it would have been our first choice. But since this is not possible, we would rather be part of Greece, rather than be a banana republic of Turkey. This is why we joined the EU also. Better to be under the control of a union that respects certain principles, rather than be ruled by Turks.

[BirKibrisli]

The selective look at history comes only from you mate. You forget that the inter-communal conflict was started from you when you collaborated with foreign imperialists and you attacked us in the 50s. Our enemy was the Colonialists, not your minority. You became the enemy only when you attacked us.

And no, the racist system you forced on Cyprus in 1960 so you can have Ottoman style privileges on our expense was not a good environment to build trust and friendship either.

This is exactly what I am saying Bir. For as long as you are trying to oppress us and violate our rights we will fight back and there will be a Cyprus Problem. After 4+ centuries of oppressing us you haven't yet realized that we will never accept to be your slaves?

Enosis was the right of the Cypriot people. What makes you think that Cyprus can be part of the British or Ottoman empires against the will of the Cypriot people, but can not be part of a Greek state if this is what the vast majority of Cypriots themselves want? And still we agreed to compromise and accept that Cyprus will not be part of the Greek state, but independent instead. But instead of real independence what was forced on us in 1960 was some racist undemocratic constitution, with foreign bases and foreign armies which was making Cyprus some banana republic of the British and the Turks.

And you avoided answering the question: Is there any difference for TCs between being an ethnic minority in a Greek state (with Cyprus part of this Greek state) and being an ethnic minority within an independent Cypriot state? History proves beyond any doubt that for TCs there is no difference whatsoever. Enosis is an excuse that expired decades ago so stop hiding behind enosis to excuse your racist demands that are the same from 1571 until 2010: To have the Greek Cypriots as second category people so you can undemocratically control Cyprus and enjoy privileges on our expense.

You obviously believe that repeating the Official GC propaganda lines endlessly you will find someone to believe you...Unfortunately for you the international powers that be know exactly what happened in Cyprus...They will not say so openly ,but they know the desperate situation the TCs were in before 1974...That is why you are getting no help from anyone,including your beloved Greece for whom you wanted to sell your soul...Thanks to the brave stand of the TCs you now have your own independent country,and you are so ungrateful you will not even acknowledge the TC contribution to the independence of Cyprus...You need to have a very good look at yourself and do some soul searching ,mate...Nothing else will get you out of the mess you are in...

It is exactly because the world knows what happened that the pseudo state your are trying to create on the land you stole from us remains unrecognized.

Even your parters in crime, the British and the Americans, and even other Turkic countries, they can not afford to openly support such an obvious crime against Cyprus.

What "TC contribution to the independence" are you talking about? Are you kidding me? The TCs were very happy with both the Ottoman rule and the British rule. They never said anything about independence. The first to propose independence was Makarios, but you collaborated with the foreign Imperialists so Cyprus would not be given a true independence, but instead be made some Banana Republic with foreign troops, foreign bases and foreign control.

You missed the whole point,Piratis...

If it wasn't for the TC community standing firm against Enosis with Greece,you'd never have an independent RoC now...You'd be a province of Greece,most probably looked down upon and patronised! Where is your appreciation of that fact???

If it wasn't for the Turks and the British (the TCs were just their pawns) Cyprus would have been part of the Greek state along with all other Greek islands, united without refugees and the problems that you created to our island. It would be 1000 times better if Cyprus was in the same position as Crete or Rhodes. So stop acting as if you did to us a favor, because what you really did was to help the foreign imperialists to screw up our island.

Unfortunately Cyprus is too small and in a very important location to be allowed to be truly independent. If we believed that we could be truly independent then it would have been our first choice. But since this is not possible, we would rather be part of Greece, rather than be a banana republic of Turkey. This is why we joined the EU also. Better to be under the control of a union that respects certain principles, rather than be ruled by Turks.

Okey...You have just admitted that your Enosis dream is still alive and kicking in your heart and mind...You'd still go for union with Greece if you had the opportunity...So nothing has changed in the GC mentality you represent since the 40s...And you wonder why I keep telling you I now believe Viewpoint is spot on...The TC community still need protection from incurable Enosis fanatics like yourself...Thank you for confirming it once and for all...With so much bitterness and hate in your heart,and with the whole RoC state apparatus behind you,you can indeed be very dangerous for the physical safety of the TCs and the Turks of Cyprus (aka settlers)...If I was Viewpoint I'd ask for another 40,000 Turkish troops,just to be sure!!!