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Re: Blessed are the peace makers

Postby insan » Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:41 pm

ZoC wrote:In English the word "peace" derives from the Latin root "pax", from where we get "pact", ie. an (uneasy?) compromise/treaty between two (opposing?) forces. "Pax Romana" meant Roman peace, where opponents were no longer able to resist Rome and had to live obediently under its rules and tax regime.

But the original Gospels were written in "Koine" not English. So when Yeshua said "blessed are the peace makers", the original text is "εἰρηνοποιοί" from the root word "εἰρηνη" ("irini").

But "irini" (as in the Aramaic "shalom") isn't simply an absence of war. It evokes a deep sense of calmness, equilibrium, tranquility, ease, of lasting contentment and warmth. You can see, this is far deeper than the "peace" evoked in English.

Cyprus doesn't need the type of peace makers Brits like BOF would like us to be. Cyprus needs more real "εἰρηνοποιοί". This is who Yeshua wished to bless. Discuss….


Which one was really blessed? Jacob or Esau?

THE RETURN OF THE EDOMITES.
AND THEIR PROMINENT ROLE AGAINST JACOB
AS WORLD HISTORY ENTERS THE END TIME DRAMA.
There is no doubt that the scriptures indicate that Esau will come to prominence again in the end-time. - Gen.27:39-40 Will wild Edomites be used in the coming New World Order as hatchet men, just as they were under the Romans? Will Esau re-emerge to be used again just as he has been used by world powers in past history?

Daniel gives us some reason to think that this might be the case. - Dan.11:41 The Edomites in ancient history repeatedly committed genocide against the people of God. They were capable of monstrous acts of cruelty and without any remorse. Are Edomites destined to commit genocide again? Could they re-emerge under the cover of the A.C. during the the second half of the 70th week of Daniel? Could they take up a role as wardens of God's people during the Great Tribulation?

If you are a red blooded man you might be wondering right now if Esau can be stopped. Can he be stopped by negotiation or pacification or bribery? No. Not at all. Can he be stopped by force of arms? Perhaps, he can. Perhaps for a while. But the scriptures clearly indicate that carnal Christians who decide to take up the sword in the end time scenario will be decisively defeated. -Dan.7:21, Dan. 12:7, Rev.13:7 And then if you are entertaining survivalist fantasies for the future 70th week you might need to ask yourself this question. If you do take up arms just how many innocents will die as a consequence of your action? If you are a Christian believer and the scriptures declare that you cannot win in any carnal engagement in the 70th week then why attempt it?

The way we have been taught, any thought of being around for the climax of this age sounds depressing. Dispensationalist Pre-Trib Rapture teachers have erroneously painted it as nothing more than a chamber of horrors. But that is not the case. And now it is time to tell the 'rest of the story'. A spiritual warfare will be underway during the Great Tribulation. And in this campaign the saints will be successful. -Dan.7:18 & 22. Wonderful resources for waging spiritual war will be coming to us in the future. Contrary to what pre-trib Bible prophecy teachers have said, the Holy Spirit will be with us and being poured out upon all flesh in the 70th week. He will be with us right through to the blow-out climax at the 6th seal. -Joel 2:28-32. And ask yourself this question as well. In running away from your witness and in choosing to strive in the flesh against spiritual powers could it be possible that in the anger and wrath you yourself might be likely to take on Esau's spirit? Are you prepared to initiate yourself into bloodletting? if so, then are you prepared to run the risk of becoming an Edomite yourself?

How can we be sure Esau will rise again to prominence in the end-time? Well there was a prophecy pronounced by Isaac as a leftover blessing on Esau. Esau was the firstborn. You will recall that his brother Jacob had tricked him out of both his birthright and his blessing. But Isaac did indeed bless his son Esau. -Gen. 27:39-40. And the blessing promised Esau was that he would come to prominence and break free of his brother Jacob. This is a scripture we must face honestly. Laodicean religious establishment sources will not publish or broadcast this troubling information. Is it out of ignorance? Or is it for fear of political, civil and marketplace disturbances? For whatever reason, this information on the re-emergence of the Edomites has been cloaked in a shroud of secrecy. Nevertheless, here is that blessing which Isaac pronounced over his firstborn and favorite son, Esau.

Then Isaac his father answered and said,

"Your blessing and dwelling shall all come from the fruitfulness of the earth and the dew of the heavens above. By your sword, (gun), you shall live and serve your brother, (i.e. serve Jacob, the cultured, shepherding, caring brother). But the time will come when you will grow restive, (a wild man), and break loose and you will tear his yoke from off your neck." -Gen.27:39&40.(Amplified Version + GWF amplified);


http://endtimepilgrim.org/redesau.htm

Making peace with genocidal Zionism... :?
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Postby insan » Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:07 am

The sources adduced by Bar Deroma along with additional information provided both above and elsewhere by Brit-Am show that there were several entities derived from Edom and that Edom gave rise to ruling military elites in other nations. Eventually Edom apparently became an important factor in the histories of Europe and Asia.

http://www.britam.org/Questions/QuesEdom.html

Edomites in Turkish army and Ergenekon?
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Postby Oracle » Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:16 am

Insan, your spaceship is leaving ....
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Postby insan » Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:28 am

Oracle wrote:Insan, your spaceship is leaving ....


Soon they will return... When my mission on planet earth is completed... :wink:
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:56 am

insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:Insan, your spaceship is leaving ....


Soon they will return... When my mission on planet earth is completed... :wink:

But you've already wanked a few times today... :?
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Postby Schnauzer » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:29 am

Way back a long time ago (please note my yankee drawl) The US Cavalry favoured the use of a hand held 'Colt' single action pistol with a revolving cylinder capable of holding 6 shots.

By holding the trigger in the firing position it was possible to fire rapidly by cocking the hammer back in quick succession.

This weapon was referred to as 'The Peacemaker' and such a name suited the American military psyche admirably at the time of it's use from about 1870 onwards.

The name 'Peacemaker', really came into it's own on the 25th June 1876 when 'General George Armstrong Custer' made his infamous 'Last Stand' at the battle of 'Little Big Horn'.

He was last reported (although there is some doubt since there was no one left to make such a report) to be standing upright in the face of a mighty onslaught, rapidly firing his 'Peacemaker' in defiance at the Red Indian warriors who were intent upon his demise.

Many films have been made of this historic event, they invariably portray the action as an 'Heroic Battle' allowing the imaginations of the viewing audiences free license to interpret the spectacle however they wish.

Apart from the number of 'Soiled Trousers' at the scene, the only fact worth consideration AFTER the event, is that the 'Peacemaker' lived up to it's name.

There has been 'Peace' at the scene of the battle ever since, only the rustling of the grasses which waft at the base of those white markers which stand as stark reminders of what took place at 'Little Big Horn', ever disturb it. :wink:
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Postby Schnauzer » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:32 am

Schnauzer wrote:Way back a long time ago (please note my yankee drawl) The US Cavalry favoured the use of a hand held 'Colt' single action pistol with a revolving cylinder capable of holding 6 shots.

By holding the trigger in the firing position it was possible to fire rapidly by cocking the hammer back in quick succession.

This weapon was referred to as 'The Peacemaker' and such a name suited the American military psyche admirably at the time of it's use from about 1870 onwards.

The name 'Peacemaker', really came into it's own on the 25th June 1876 when 'General George Armstrong Custer' made his infamous 'Last Stand' at the battle of 'Little Big Horn'.

He was last reported (although there is some doubt about the accuracy of the information, since there was no one left to make such a report) to be standing upright in the face of a mighty onslaught, rapidly firing his 'Peacemaker' in defiance at the Red Indian warriors who were intent upon his demise.

Many films have been made of this historic event, they invariably portray the action as an 'Heroic Battle' allowing the imaginations of the viewing audiences free license to interpret the spectacle however they wish.

Apart from the number of 'Soiled Trousers' at the scene, the only fact worth consideration AFTER the event, is that the 'Peacemaker' lived up to it's name.

There has been 'Peace' at the scene of the battle ever since, only the rustling of the grasses which waft at the base of those white markers which stand as stark reminders of what took place at 'Little Big Horn', ever disturb it. :wink:



This is what happens when you come home sozzled after a night out :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Gasman » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:34 am

So good you said it twice!
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Postby Oracle » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:39 am

Schnauzer wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:Way back a long time ago (please note my yankee drawl) The US Cavalry favoured the use of a hand held 'Colt' single action pistol with a revolving cylinder capable of holding 6 shots.

By holding the trigger in the firing position it was possible to fire rapidly by cocking the hammer back in quick succession.

This weapon was referred to as 'The Peacemaker' and such a name suited the American military psyche admirably at the time of it's use from about 1870 onwards.

The name 'Peacemaker', really came into it's own on the 25th June 1876 when 'General George Armstrong Custer' made his infamous 'Last Stand' at the battle of 'Little Big Horn'.

He was last reported (although there is some doubt about the accuracy of the information, since there was no one left to make such a report) to be standing upright in the face of a mighty onslaught, rapidly firing his 'Peacemaker' in defiance at the Red Indian warriors who were intent upon his demise.

Many films have been made of this historic event, they invariably portray the action as an 'Heroic Battle' allowing the imaginations of the viewing audiences free license to interpret the spectacle however they wish.

Apart from the number of 'Soiled Trousers' at the scene, the only fact worth consideration AFTER the event, is that the 'Peacemaker' lived up to it's name.

There has been 'Peace' at the scene of the battle ever since, only the rustling of the grasses which waft at the base of those white markers which stand as stark reminders of what took place at 'Little Big Horn', ever disturb it. :wink:



This is what happens when you come home sozzled after a night out :lol: :lol: :lol:


"Sozzled" is the only way to face up to "Great Britain" :D
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Postby Schnauzer » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:42 am

Oracle wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:Way back a long time ago (please note my yankee drawl) The US Cavalry favoured the use of a hand held 'Colt' single action pistol with a revolving cylinder capable of holding 6 shots.

By holding the trigger in the firing position it was possible to fire rapidly by cocking the hammer back in quick succession.

This weapon was referred to as 'The Peacemaker' and such a name suited the American military psyche admirably at the time of it's use from about 1870 onwards.

The name 'Peacemaker', really came into it's own on the 25th June 1876 when 'General George Armstrong Custer' made his infamous 'Last Stand' at the battle of 'Little Big Horn'.

He was last reported (although there is some doubt about the accuracy of the information, since there was no one left to make such a report) to be standing upright in the face of a mighty onslaught, rapidly firing his 'Peacemaker' in defiance at the Red Indian warriors who were intent upon his demise.

Many films have been made of this historic event, they invariably portray the action as an 'Heroic Battle' allowing the imaginations of the viewing audiences free license to interpret the spectacle however they wish.

Apart from the number of 'Soiled Trousers' at the scene, the only fact worth consideration AFTER the event, is that the 'Peacemaker' lived up to it's name.

There has been 'Peace' at the scene of the battle ever since, only the rustling of the grasses which waft at the base of those white markers which stand as stark reminders of what took place at 'Little Big Horn', ever disturb it. :wink:



This is what happens when you come home sozzled after a night out :lol: :lol: :lol:


"Sozzled" is the only way to face up to "Great Britain" :D


"Ah God Bless 'em, they are doing their best" :wink:
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