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[BirKibrisli]

It is a naive, wishful thinking(if that is the right term),and naked propaganda, to suggest that the TCs were mostly afraid of the TMT in their abandoning their centuries old ancestral villages and lands in 1963-67 period...Certainly the TMT tried in their primitive way to influence the TC thinking regarding coperating with the GCs,but without a lot of help from the GCs the TMT had no chance of getting the TCs to do what they wanted...Ive told this before :the TMT tried to ban speaking of Cypriot Greek at one stage...for every word uttered in Greek one was to be fined 2 shillings...My grandmother spoke better Greek than Turkish (as most people did in the Paphos area) so there was no way she could stop even if she wanted to...So there were a lot of Greek whispered in her house,but do you think any of her grandchildren dared to dob her in??? We were more afraid of her than the TMT!!!!

So to say that it was the TMT that oppressed the TCs is saying that the GCs had nothing at all to do with it,which is total bollocks,as those of us who lived through those dark times know very well...

[paliometoxo]

no, you where supposed to not blow yourselves up and force yourselves into enclaves and then blame it on gcs so you have an excuse to come murder and rape gcs and then pretend like we are the bad guys when its clearly turkey playing games to try take control. it just proves there is no need for two states or bbf, the only need is to remove turkey from cyprus of having any say at all.

This is far from the truth so i give up you are a lost cause no amount of debate will help you correct your brain washed ideology.

no amount will correct your taksim brain washed turk brain

no amount of debate will make me think its ok for turkey to take over cyprus and legalise the invasion and long plan of your terrorist group tmt, the ones that started the war

[Afroasiatis]

I'd say, both TMT and GC leadership oppressed TCs.

They were all (OK, at least TMT and significant members of the GC leadership) part of the same global network of oppression anyway.

[Get Real!]

I'd say, both TMT and GC leadership oppressed TCs.

They were all (OK, at least TMT and significant members of the GC leadership) part of the same global network of oppression anyway.

What's that?

[Gregory]

And the writer? hardly an unbiased source, case dismissed.

Why can't it be the truth.? You were not there, but he was (Ihsan Ali).!

To mention another point to you, is it true that Turkey wants 50% of all public jobs to go to the settlers in the north.?

Makarios was also there but we dont trust him either, this article is dismissable due to the writers ethnic origin, you yourself have on many occassions dismissed TCs eye witness accounts of events.

Ihsan Ali is a tc.....what are you on about?

[Oracle]

Turkey is now demanding that settlers account for more than 50% of new appointments in the civil service, police, education and health services.

Finally, the TC community gets its much longed for 'equal status' and 50% 'power sharing'!

Let's see how long they hang on to it for ....

[Kikapu]

It is a naive, wishful thinking(if that is the right term),and naked propaganda, to suggest that the TCs were mostly afraid of the TMT in their abandoning their centuries old ancestral villages and lands in 1963-67 period...Certainly the TMT tried in their primitive way to influence the TC thinking regarding coperating with the GCs,but without a lot of help from the GCs the TMT had no chance of getting the TCs to do what they wanted...Ive told this before :the TMT tried to ban speaking of Cypriot Greek at one stage...for every word uttered in Greek one was to be fined 2 shillings...My grandmother spoke better Greek than Turkish (as most people did in the Paphos area) so there was no way she could stop even if she wanted to...So there were a lot of Greek whispered in her house,but do you think any of her grandchildren dared to dob her in??? We were more afraid of her than the TMT!!!!

So to say that it was the TMT that oppressed the TCs is saying that the GCs had nothing at all to do with it,which is total bollocks,as those of us who lived through those dark times know very well...

Bir, I don't think anyone is denying that EOKA-B were no friends to the TCs, and that their main goal was enosis, but at the same time, the TMT were no friends to the TCs who did not want partition either. If the TMT were the spearhead to bring about partition, how else could they do it if they too did not treat the TCs badly, in order to force them to the northern part of Cyprus from the southern side. Lets face it, "eggs had to be broken, if they were ever going to make that omelette", don't you think.??

[Kikapu]

And the writer? hardly an unbiased source, case dismissed.

Why can't it be the truth.? You were not there, but he was (Ihsan Ali).!

To mention another point to you, is it true that Turkey wants 50% of all public jobs to go to the settlers in the north.?

Makarios was also there but we dont trust him either, this article is dismissable due to the writers ethnic origin, you yourself have on many occassions dismissed TCs eye witness accounts of events.

Give me examples, or else hold your tongue.!

I'm still waiting for you to tell me if it's true, that Turkey is demanding that 50% of all public sector jobs to be given to the settlers.???

[Viewpoint]

Ask Bir the number of times you have told that youknow better what he experienced during those dark years. As for your 50% question i havent heard of such a condition but why are you so concerned wasnt it the same for us in "RoC"?

[Kikapu]

Ask Bir the number of times you have told that youknow better what he experienced during those dark years.

You must have me mixed with someone else. I know about Bir's past in Cyprus in those dark days, as he knows about mine.

As for your 50% question i havent heard of such a condition but why are you so concerned wasnt it the same for us in "RoC"?

Except, the only difference would be, that you (TCs) claim to be going back to your roots by jumping into Turkey's arms and that you are very happy about it, however, Turkey is not showing you the same consideration and believes that you are not a Turk but a TC, otherwise why would Turkey distinguish you (TC) differently than with the settlers by wanting to favour them more than you. The bottom line is, Turkey may be your roots, but your roots does not recognise you as being one of them, hence the desire of Turkey to get all her people into position of power in the north at 100%, and then that will be the end of the TCs as we knew them.

The article from the newspaper and from Westminster Hall debates are talking about the same thing, that you seem to ignore, just because you think your "roots" has your best interest in it's heart.!!