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Al Jazeerah asks...Cyprus: Time for formal partition?

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Postby wyoming cowboy » Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:43 am

lovernomore wrote:Al Jazera has 50 million viewers worldwide, I dont think it was very good for our Greek friends. Lord Hannay is talking for the whole of UK and should be taken very seriously. Excellent programme and ver well moderated. I was grateful for the time allocated to the lady caller from the USA, she at least managed to enlighten the audience that the Turkish intervention was necessary and justified.


"the turkish intervention was necessary and justified"


from what perspective are you basing your statement, that the tc choose to voluntarily leave the ROC government or that a few gangs from both sides were causing problems that neither of the vast majority of the ethnic groups supported. if it was an ethnic conflict why were there mixed villages throughout cyprus and no conflicts occured? at the time of the turkish invasion can you name any ethnic conflict on the island?

Were the tc asked repeatedly to rejoin the ROC government?

I want to see answers to my questions before you go on spouting your false propaganda about the ROC
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Postby Gasman » Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:26 am

Well, he's changed his mind - he wasn't talking 'partition' a year ago

http://www.cer.org.uk/pdf/bn_cyprus_1sept09.pdf

He also said this:

Every Cypriot imbibes with their mother’s milk the belief that their
fate is going to be determined somewhere else by someone other than them. Strictly speaking this is not entirely true; after all Denktash and Papadopoulos were both Cypriots and they both had a major influence
on, and responsibility for, the negotiating failures of recent years. But that is what Cypriots believe and none of us is going to persuade them of the contrary. With the benefit of hindsight I believe that those of us from
outside the island came to play too prominent a public role in the last major effort to reach a settlement.

That enabled Cypriots, particularly Greek Cypriots, to blame outsiders for everything they did not like about the Annan plan even when the compromises were in fact ones fashioned by their own leaders. So it
is essential that on this occasion the two sides in Cyprus should take full ownership of whatever is negotiated. Naturally there will have to be some outsiders involved in facilitating the negotiations and helping to nudge the parties towards compromise. But that external involvement needs, I believe, to be more discreet than in the past, and at every stage the UN and its representatives need to remain centre stage, supported from the wings by the members of the Security Council to whom they report.
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Postby boomerang » Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:43 am

hannay should recommend partition of the falkland islands...avoiding future problems with the argentines...and cut the bullshit out...

hannay shoulkd have been speaking against the war in iraq and the bullshit warped mentality of wmd...

hannay is full of shit coz the only thing he was interested was securing a nice chunk of cyprus for the uk...

hannay should be advocating uk forces withdrawing out of cyprus as the uk is broke and secondly they have no place there...
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Postby Lit » Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:19 am

Get Real! wrote:
eracles wrote:ah...I was trying to be sarcastic, never works for me on the internet...

Must be a Greek type of sarcasm...


You have too much time on your hands and you're a simpleton.
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Postby Lit » Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:40 am

lovernomore wrote: I was grateful for the time allocated to the lady caller from the USA, she at least managed to enlighten the audience that the Turkish intervention was necessary and justified.


She missed an opportunity to mention that ethnic cleansing is a war crime, for shame.
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Postby kurupetos » Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:45 am

shahmaran wrote:I am pretty sure the Greeks also portrayed similar "squeals" before they lost "Constantinople", it is just a matter of time :lol:

Funny thing about history, it just repeats itself, all the time...


Too bad you failed in that subject repeatedly. :lol:
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