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Postby Oracle » Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:43 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
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Oracle wrote:The pro-partitionist supporters should stop flooding us with their highlighted misplaced propaganda!

The border being discussed is that between Turkey and the EU-Cyprus and not the "border" which you cross to receive your pay-packet from the enemy occupants!
Cypriot accession to the EU in 2004 meant that the EU had within its borders a conflict that had been ongoing for approximately 40 years. While the whole of the island, and its entire population, is part of the EU, the Cypriot government does not exert control over the Northern half of the island...


Also:

http://www.france24.com/en/2010-talking ... ss-freedom


Gregory wrote:excellent quote by the French MEP

" you don't have a bi-lateral problem with Cyprus, this is a problem that Turkey has with the union by not respecting the European union."


That is very interesting. "which you cross to receive your pay-packet from the enemy occupants!". Any credible links to this accusation?

One cannot cut and paste published articles without being accused of being in the pay of the 'enemy'. :roll:


If it's not for "money", then it's for "love". In this context, which is worse?

Rhetorical!

[In other words: Don't bother replying, I'm not interested in discussing third parties with you, just because you like to stir things up.]


You have changed your tune as fst as Speedy Gonzales.


What tune? Deniz, stop trolling. If you were wrong the first time, you are only wrong again.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:00 pm

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:The pro-partitionist supporters should stop flooding us with their highlighted misplaced propaganda!

The border being discussed is that between Turkey and the EU-Cyprus and not the "border" which you cross to receive your pay-packet from the enemy occupants!
Cypriot accession to the EU in 2004 meant that the EU had within its borders a conflict that had been ongoing for approximately 40 years. While the whole of the island, and its entire population, is part of the EU, the Cypriot government does not exert control over the Northern half of the island...


Also:

http://www.france24.com/en/2010-talking ... ss-freedom


Gregory wrote:excellent quote by the French MEP

" you don't have a bi-lateral problem with Cyprus, this is a problem that Turkey has with the union by not respecting the European union."


That is very interesting. "which you cross to receive your pay-packet from the enemy occupants!". Any credible links to this accusation?

One cannot cut and paste published articles without being accused of being in the pay of the 'enemy'. :roll:


If it's not for "money", then it's for "love". In this context, which is worse?

Rhetorical!

[In other words: Don't bother replying, I'm not interested in discussing third parties with you, just because you like to stir things up.]


You have changed your tune as fst as Speedy Gonzales.


What tune? Deniz, stop trolling. If you were wrong the first time, you are only wrong again.


If you think I am trolling , then complain to your friends in Admin, but also refrain from making false accusations.
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Postby Jerry » Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:04 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:The pro-partitionist supporters should stop flooding us with their highlighted misplaced propaganda!

The border being discussed is that between Turkey and the EU-Cyprus and not the "border" which you cross to receive your pay-packet from the enemy occupants!
Cypriot accession to the EU in 2004 meant that the EU had within its borders a conflict that had been ongoing for approximately 40 years. While the whole of the island, and its entire population, is part of the EU, the Cypriot government does not exert control over the Northern half of the island...


Also:

http://www.france24.com/en/2010-talking ... ss-freedom


Gregory wrote:excellent quote by the French MEP

" you don't have a bi-lateral problem with Cyprus, this is a problem that Turkey has with the union by not respecting the European union."


That is very interesting. "which you cross to receive your pay-packet from the enemy occupants!". Any credible links to this accusation?

One cannot cut and paste published articles without being accused of being in the pay of the 'enemy'. :roll:


If it's not for "money", then it's for "love". In this context, which is worse?

Rhetorical!

[In other words: Don't bother replying, I'm not interested in discussing third parties with you, just because you like to stir things up.]


You have changed your tune as fst as Speedy Gonzales.


What tune? Deniz, stop trolling. If you were wrong the first time, you are only wrong again.


If you think I am trolling , then complain to your friends in Admin, but also refrain from making false accusations.


Behave yourself Deniz, you know it's against forum rules to troll but expletives and racism are ok. OK?
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:09 pm

Jerry wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:The pro-partitionist supporters should stop flooding us with their highlighted misplaced propaganda!

The border being discussed is that between Turkey and the EU-Cyprus and not the "border" which you cross to receive your pay-packet from the enemy occupants!
Cypriot accession to the EU in 2004 meant that the EU had within its borders a conflict that had been ongoing for approximately 40 years. While the whole of the island, and its entire population, is part of the EU, the Cypriot government does not exert control over the Northern half of the island...


Also:

http://www.france24.com/en/2010-talking ... ss-freedom


Gregory wrote:excellent quote by the French MEP

" you don't have a bi-lateral problem with Cyprus, this is a problem that Turkey has with the union by not respecting the European union."


That is very interesting. "which you cross to receive your pay-packet from the enemy occupants!". Any credible links to this accusation?

One cannot cut and paste published articles without being accused of being in the pay of the 'enemy'. :roll:


If it's not for "money", then it's for "love". In this context, which is worse?

Rhetorical!

[In other words: Don't bother replying, I'm not interested in discussing third parties with you, just because you like to stir things up.]


You have changed your tune as fst as Speedy Gonzales.


What tune? Deniz, stop trolling. If you were wrong the first time, you are only wrong again.


If you think I am trolling , then complain to your friends in Admin, but also refrain from making false accusations.


Behave yourself Deniz, you know it's against forum rules to troll but expletives and racism are ok. OK?


I do beg your pardon.

Sorry ADMIN/ :oops:
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:20 pm

Kikapu wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:Particularly like the point about equal status of the two states and demand for a solution not continuation of endless talks that the GCs want.


Notice how it was worded and that it did not say "equal status of the two communities"!

Federal states are always of equal status, as they are in the USA and many other True Federations around the world.


Equal States is good enough for us, so that we have just as much weight in the federal structure.

See you make no comment about the open ended discussions, without time frames the GCs will always find ways to delay things.


I gave you a equal Federal structure, but you did not like it, just because you want everything to be undemocratic. With the EU principles, without the north giving back at least 50% of the land back to the GCs, you are going to have to share the north equally with all the returning GCs who would have property there. Actually, there will be more GCs than true TCs. In time, you will learn to like my plan as time goes by and even thank me for it too.!

Time frames are all relevant. So what will happen if the UN gets tired of waiting. Let me guess...nothing. They have no choice but to be involved no matter how long it takes. That's their job, is it not.??


The UN can pull out of Cyprus tomorrow, your over confidence is very dangerous and will place the GC at risk.

As for you plan forget the land share it is flawed due to the fact that however much land we give the Gcs can easily take control of power therefore pushing us to one side.
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Postby paliometoxo » Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:22 pm

the un pulling out is like having the ta going home... turkey pushes so hard for the un to leave they even tried to veto the re newel of another 6 months of un troops being here yet they say the ta must be here for YOUR security.. what about OURS?!?! whats going to stop you turks trying to take more of the island?
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:32 pm

paliometoxo wrote:the un pulling out is like having the ta going home... turkey pushes so hard for the un to leave they even tried to veto the re newel of another 6 months of un troops being here yet they say the ta must be here for YOUR security.. what about OURS?!?! whats going to stop you turks trying to take more of the island?


You have 20.000 army and 100.000 armed reservists.
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Postby paliometoxo » Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:35 pm

against your army is nothing.... you and every other tc and turk here is so quick to point out against your 1 million is nothing...

if you expect us to give up our security you must do the same also
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:39 pm

paliometoxo wrote:against your army is nothing.... you and every other tc and turk here is so quick to point out against your 1 million is nothing...

if you expect us to give up our security you must do the same also


This was part of the AP which you GCs rejected.
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Postby Jerry » Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:55 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Jerry wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:The pro-partitionist supporters should stop flooding us with their highlighted misplaced propaganda!

The border being discussed is that between Turkey and the EU-Cyprus and not the "border" which you cross to receive your pay-packet from the enemy occupants!
Cypriot accession to the EU in 2004 meant that the EU had within its borders a conflict that had been ongoing for approximately 40 years. While the whole of the island, and its entire population, is part of the EU, the Cypriot government does not exert control over the Northern half of the island...


Also:

http://www.france24.com/en/2010-talking ... ss-freedom


Gregory wrote:excellent quote by the French MEP

" you don't have a bi-lateral problem with Cyprus, this is a problem that Turkey has with the union by not respecting the European union."


That is very interesting. "which you cross to receive your pay-packet from the enemy occupants!". Any credible links to this accusation?

One cannot cut and paste published articles without being accused of being in the pay of the 'enemy'. :roll:


If it's not for "money", then it's for "love". In this context, which is worse?

Rhetorical!

[In other words: Don't bother replying, I'm not interested in discussing third parties with you, just because you like to stir things up.]


You have changed your tune as fst as Speedy Gonzales.


What tune? Deniz, stop trolling. If you were wrong the first time, you are only wrong again.


If you think I am trolling , then complain to your friends in Admin, but also refrain from making false accusations.


Behave yourself Deniz, you know it's against forum rules to troll but expletives and racism are ok. OK?


I do beg your pardon.

Sorry ADMIN/ :oops:


Pardon granted, but please try and garnish your responses with racist expletives in future, they add flavour to the CF stew. :lol:
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