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[Viewpoint]

Particularly like the point about equal status of the two states and demand for a solution not continuation of endless talks that the GCs want.

Notice how it was worded and that it did not say "equal status of the two communities"!

Federal states are always of equal status, as they are in the USA and many other True Federations around the world.

Equal States is good enough for us, so that we have just as much weight in the federal structure.

See you make no comment about the open ended discussions, without time frames the GCs will always find ways to delay things.

[B25]

[quote="Gasman"]From the FT (discredited as a credible link on here!)

Parties in Cyprus dispute agree more UN talks

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/94ddc47a-f342-11df-a4fa-00144feab49a.html#axzz15hdsCymD

Discussions stalled due to GCs demanding extra territory...
[quote]

Had to laugh at this one, how dare they those 'orrible GCs wanting THEIR LEGAL LAND back. Who do they think they are??

[Oracle]

It's the EU and the RoC which will decide matters on the Liberation of Cyprus. Not the Turk-backing UN.

[BirKibrisli]

It's the EU and the RoC which will decide matters on the Liberation of Cyprus. Not the Turk-backing UN.

Do you really believe what you are saying,Oracle???
If it is the EU and the RoC which will decide matters "on the liberation of Cyprus" what is stopping them??? Why havent they "liberated" Cyprus already???

[Kikapu]

Particularly like the point about equal status of the two states and demand for a solution not continuation of endless talks that the GCs want.

Notice how it was worded and that it did not say "equal status of the two communities"!

Federal states are always of equal status, as they are in the USA and many other True Federations around the world.

Equal States is good enough for us, so that we have just as much weight in the federal structure.

See you make no comment about the open ended discussions, without time frames the GCs will always find ways to delay things.

I gave you a equal Federal structure, but you did not like it, just because you want everything to be undemocratic. With the EU principles, without the north giving back at least 50% of the land back to the GCs, you are going to have to share the north equally with all the returning GCs who would have property there. Actually, there will be more GCs than true TCs. In time, you will learn to like my plan as time goes by and even thank me for it too.!

Time frames are all relevant. So what will happen if the UN gets tired of waiting. Let me guess...nothing. They have no choice but to be involved no matter how long it takes. That's their job, is it not.??

[Gasman]

If it is the EU and the RoC which will decide matters "on the liberation of Cyprus" what is stopping them??? Why havent they "liberated" Cyprus already???

Quite.

European Border Disputes...

http://www.thebeginner.eu/europe/298-european-border-disputes-not-just-a-thing-of-the-past

Cypriot accession to the EU in 2004 meant that the EU had within its borders a conflict that had been ongoing for approximately 40 years. While the whole of the island, and its entire population, is part of the EU, the Cypriot government does not exert control over the Northern half of the island - the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

The EU has consistently favoured efforts to find a solution to this complex conflict, including the creation of an aid package in 2006 aimed at providing 259 million euro for the Turkish community in the North to assist with reconciliation between the two communities, bringing the Turkish community closer to the EU and developing infrastructure, as well as the social and economic system of the northern half of the island.

Both the case of Piran and that of Cyprus are crucial matters to be resolved from the perspective of the EU because they have a direct impact on the Union’s relationship with its immediate neighbours, Croatia (and the Balkans in general) and Turkey. This is reflected in European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso's reaction to the recent Slovene referendum as he stated that, “Resolving this bilateral issue is an important signal for the region and the relations between Slovenia and Croatia.”

It is evident that the EU holds a prominent position in the resolution of border disputes involving its member states. This is particularly the case when one party involved is a non-EU state as it places an even greater emphasis on achieving a successful result.

The EU does not use its power to coerce or directly shape these discussions but offers itself as a third party in the endeavour to mediate a conclusion that both sides find palatable. It is very reluctant to interfere with what are essentially domestic or bilateral issues, but offers positive support in the form of funding and negotiation while itself remaining neutral.

[Oracle]

The pro-partitionist supporters should stop flooding us with their highlighted misplaced propaganda!

The border being discussed is that between Turkey and the EU-Cyprus and not the "border" which you cross to receive your pay-packet from the enemy occupants!

Cypriot accession to the EU in 2004 meant that the EU had within its borders a conflict that had been ongoing for approximately 40 years. While the whole of the island, and its entire population, is part of the EU, the Cypriot government does not exert control over the Northern half of the island...

Also:

http://www.france24.com/en/2010-talking ... ss-freedom

excellent quote by the French MEP

" you don't have a bi-lateral problem with Cyprus, this is a problem that Turkey has with the union by not respecting the European union."

Turkey does not respect the RoC and neither do you; so to hell with you and your Turkish paymasters.

[denizaksulu]

The pro-partitionist supporters should stop flooding us with their highlighted misplaced propaganda!

The border being discussed is that between Turkey and the EU-Cyprus and not the "border" which you cross to receive your pay-packet from the enemy occupants!

Cypriot accession to the EU in 2004 meant that the EU had within its borders a conflict that had been ongoing for approximately 40 years. While the whole of the island, and its entire population, is part of the EU, the Cypriot government does not exert control over the Northern half of the island...

Also:

http://www.france24.com/en/2010-talking ... ss-freedom

excellent quote by the French MEP

" you don't have a bi-lateral problem with Cyprus, this is a problem that Turkey has with the union by not respecting the European union."

That is very interesting. "which you cross to receive your pay-packet from the enemy occupants!". Any credible links to this accusation?

One cannot cut and paste published articles without being accused of being in the pay of the 'enemy'.

[Oracle]

The pro-partitionist supporters should stop flooding us with their highlighted misplaced propaganda!

The border being discussed is that between Turkey and the EU-Cyprus and not the "border" which you cross to receive your pay-packet from the enemy occupants!

Cypriot accession to the EU in 2004 meant that the EU had within its borders a conflict that had been ongoing for approximately 40 years. While the whole of the island, and its entire population, is part of the EU, the Cypriot government does not exert control over the Northern half of the island...

Also:

http://www.france24.com/en/2010-talking ... ss-freedom

excellent quote by the French MEP

" you don't have a bi-lateral problem with Cyprus, this is a problem that Turkey has with the union by not respecting the European union."

That is very interesting. "which you cross to receive your pay-packet from the enemy occupants!". Any credible links to this accusation?

One cannot cut and paste published articles without being accused of being in the pay of the 'enemy'.

If it's not for "money", then it's for "love". In this context, which is worse?

Rhetorical!

[In other words: Don't bother replying, I'm not interested in discussing third parties with you, just because you like to stir things up.]

[denizaksulu]

The pro-partitionist supporters should stop flooding us with their highlighted misplaced propaganda!

The border being discussed is that between Turkey and the EU-Cyprus and not the "border" which you cross to receive your pay-packet from the enemy occupants!

Cypriot accession to the EU in 2004 meant that the EU had within its borders a conflict that had been ongoing for approximately 40 years. While the whole of the island, and its entire population, is part of the EU, the Cypriot government does not exert control over the Northern half of the island...

Also:

http://www.france24.com/en/2010-talking ... ss-freedom

excellent quote by the French MEP

" you don't have a bi-lateral problem with Cyprus, this is a problem that Turkey has with the union by not respecting the European union."

That is very interesting. "which you cross to receive your pay-packet from the enemy occupants!". Any credible links to this accusation?

One cannot cut and paste published articles without being accused of being in the pay of the 'enemy'.

If it's not for "money", then it's for "love". In this context, which is worse?

Rhetorical!

[In other words: Don't bother replying, I'm not interested in discussing third parties with you, just because you like to stir things up.]

You have changed your tune as fst as Speedy Gonzales.