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Postby paliometoxo » Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:57 pm

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boulio wrote:
We will not allow you to tie Turkey in a knot when it is necessary for them to act in times of crisis, it took them 11 years last time and we suffered greatly, we will not make the same mistake again.


stop with the propoganda its 2010 not 1963



Which part is propaganda? Your desire is to rid yourselves of Turkeys intervention rights so that you can do as you wish.


your desire to give cyprus to turkey....
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:14 pm

Why was it ok for GCs and not TCs?
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Postby paliometoxo » Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:20 pm

its not ok for either..
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:23 pm

paliometoxo wrote:its not ok for either..



The current situation is a direct result of your wanting enosis.
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Postby paliometoxo » Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:29 pm

not really. its the turks 10 year plan of taksim that worked out very well for turkey... cause problems cause war pretend like the gcs and tcs cant live together, pretend gcs tried to kill you off when it was mainly your terrorist group forcing tcs out so you can pretend it was gcs..

enosis was even accepted by tcs so no it was no this enosis rubbish you speak of. it was taksim
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Postby halil » Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:29 pm

Nato-EU relations remain unresolved
Anatolian News Agency

Despite all negotiations going on for weeks, differences remain on several other issues, such as NATO-EU relations.

On missile defense system, which is considered the major topic on the NATO summit that will shape the future of the alliance for the next decade, Turkey's expectations have largely been met, diplomatic officials said.

Last week, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Turkey wanted the command of the missile shield.

"If the missile shield system is thought to be installed in our territories, its command should definitely be in our hands. Otherwise, it is impossible for us to accept such a thing," Erdogan had said.

All NATO powers back Turkey's stance that the missile shield should not target any specific country and that the project should cover all NATO countries as a whole. However, Germany, supported by some northern European countries, argues that NATO's nuclear deterrence policy should be reviewed because of the defense guarantee offered by the missile shield project. France and United States argue that the missile shield is not an alternative to nuclear deterrence policy, but it is a complementary project.

On NATO-EU relations, another topic of the summit which is important for Turkey, there are still big differences between Ankara and other European governments.

Turkey backs NATO-EU cooperation in an outline which has already been drawn, and expects EU to fulfill its commitments.

Just like the Norway model, EU should accept Turkey --a non-EU NATO ally-- to European Defense Agency, recognize Ankara in European security and defense policy, and include Turkey in its decision-making process for operations as Turkey makes the largest part of contributions to EU missions outside EU.

The Union fails in taking steps regarding these issues because of Greek Cypriot veto.

Turkey highlights the fact that EU has not displayed necessary determination so far to move forward its cooperation with NATO.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:16 pm

paliometoxo wrote:not really. its the turks 10 year plan of taksim that worked out very well for turkey... cause problems cause war pretend like the gcs and tcs cant live together, pretend gcs tried to kill you off when it was mainly your terrorist group forcing tcs out so you can pretend it was gcs..

enosis was even accepted by tcs so no it was no this enosis rubbish you speak of. it was taksim


When did the TCs accept enosis with Greece? You are a liar.

The last 2 years of negotiating (plus previous 35 years) clearly reveals that we cannot unite (live together) due the vast chasm of differences that exist between us. You want to dominate we want to share equally.
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Postby paliometoxo » Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:18 pm

all part of your taksim plan the whole cause riots so we cannot live together so please give us our own state..

a fair plan that makes us both lose is we re unite the island and give the tcs 50% power.. an 18% minority get more power as you always wanted just minus the second state, so your actually giving.. and gcs are giving by allowing you to have 50% power.. so both tcs and gcs are then giving...

thats more then fair imo

well for the turks accepting greece would of been no different to having the british as rulers.. swapping one power for another
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:30 pm

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all part of your taksim plan the whole cause riots so we cannot live together so please give us our own state..


Taksim came after enosis, did you know this? it was in direct response to your dream to gift Cyprus to Greece.

a fair plan that makes us both lose is we re unite the island and give the tcs 50% power.. an 18% minority get more power as you always wanted just minus the second state, so your actually giving.. and gcs are giving by allowing you to have 50% power.. so both tcs and gcs are then giving...

thats more then fair imo


Tell this to your leaders as they are not saying the same thing, they do not see us as equals and want to force us into minority status in a GC state which we will never do.

well for the turks accepting greece would of been no different to having the british as rulers.. swapping one power for another


You said we accepted this, we never did, we would never sign our own death warrant, quite the opposite we fought against and thats why you have the "RoC" today, so you should be thanking us.
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Postby paliometoxo » Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:38 pm

than you for coming to cyprus and forcing the partition of our island and killing and forcing so many thousands ouf of their home.. we owe you and have much to thank you for.. trying to take control of cyprus, how lucky we are the turks came
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