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Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:50 am

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ZoC wrote:So you'll shut the fcuk up about isolation?


No, can we trade direct from the north?

You can go hang yourselves… :lol:


Great example of GC mentality.

Our mentality evolves around our enemies… :wink:
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Postby kurupetos » Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:50 am

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ZoC wrote:So you'll shut the fcuk up about isolation?


No, can we trade direct from the north?


Trade what? What do you produce? :?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:54 am

kurupetos wrote:
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ZoC wrote:So you'll shut the fcuk up about isolation?


No, can we trade direct from the north?


Trade what? What do you produce? :?


Oranges, Potatoes and others if we have the direct links it would make it viable, plus direct flights.
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Postby ZoC » Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:04 am

Viewpoint wrote:
ZoC wrote:So you'll shut the fcuk up about isolation?


No, can we trade direct from the north?


so you are in a high security isolation unit then. make up ur mind, schizo.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:49 am

ZoC wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
ZoC wrote:So you'll shut the fcuk up about isolation?


No, can we trade direct from the north?


so you are in a high security isolation unit then. make up ur mind, schizo.


You are the one who does not see shades of grey but just black and white.
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Postby Gasman » Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:22 am

It's all very well putting Straw and Hannay down as 'has beens' and of no significance etc. But, in my view, anyone who thinks these two (and others who, like Hannay, are part of the 'establishment' in the UK and elsewhere, are just spouting stuff that just popped into their heads without thinking about the consequences, they are foolish.

It was said that Straw was just saying aloud what is being said behind closed doors. That's putting it very simply.

Like the 'intended' leaks giving out info that the powers that be want in the public domain but leaders won't come out and announce.

Maybe it is a 'testing of the water', maybe it is to ensure that the idea becomes planted firmly, it's not the first time Partition has been mentioned - just that with it having been said that the neverending 'talks' will have to come to an end sometime, and with the UN threatening to walk away if they don't, it seems 'partition' cannot now be mentioned without bringing everyone out in a rash. It seems to be being made clear also that the GCs will bear most of the blame if the talks do end in disaster.

I don't think Partition will be good for Cyprus, but those who protest loudest against it seem to also be those whose entrenched attitudes are going to make sure it could come about by making any other alternative impossible to achieve (assuming the current situation cannot just go on forever).

Cyprus is spoken of as being 'partitioned' in many official documents - there are books written about the current 'partition' of Cyprus. Why such an outcry at the very mention of the word now? Could it be because it was hitherto thought there was absolutely no way that the end result could be partition but now people in high places are talking about it, the awful reality and permanence of it is starting to dawn?
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:42 am

Gasman wrote:Cyprus is spoken of as being 'partitioned' in many official documents - there are books written about the current 'partition' of Cyprus. Why such an outcry at the very mention of the word now? Could it be because it was hitherto thought there was absolutely no way that the end result could be partition but now people in high places are talking about it, the awful reality and permanence of it is starting to dawn?

I don't know about the rest, but all I can see is a snotty Brit salivating in the hope that Cypriots will be punished (<- envy does that to people) but I’m afraid it is not possible! :lol:

You will be disappointed and I’m putting my good CF reputation down!
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Postby Gasman » Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:49 am

You missed the bit where I stated I wouldn't like to see Partition in Cyprus. What possible benefit would there be for me or other Brits who have chosen to live here? I think, on the contrary, it is your passion to 'punish the Brits' along with the TCs, that is blinding you to reality.

As for Hannay (the has been) here is what he was saying TWELVE YEARS AGO on the subject (reported in Hellenic Resources network - boy has he changed his mind.
Sir David Hannay stresses that without Cyprus solution Turkey cannot get closer to the EU
The British and EU Presidency Special Representative for Cyprus Sir David Hannay said that Turkey cannot block Cyprus' entry to the EU, adding that although efforts are being made to bring the Turkish Cypriots into the Cyprus accession negotiations, this is proving difficult because the Turkish side is very negative.

Sir David, who was giving a radio interview from London to the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) on 6 April, also stressed that Turkey should not have a veto on Cyprus' membership. One cannot block 82% of Cypriots who are Greek in their attempt to join the EU just because 18% say no, Sir David pointed out.

The British Representative also said that a bi-zonal, mbi-comunal federation is the only viable solution for a re-united Cyprus.

Sir David also stressed that the most important thing is trying to ensure that in parallel with the EU accession negotiations, "the UN process, which has started and sputtered for a number of years, but which has within it the only basis on which Cyprus ever could come together again, should be given another shot in the arm and we should move forward".

Replying to a question on efforts made to help Turkey meet EU standards, Sir David emphasised that "most of what Turkey has to do, has to be done by Turkey". He said that Turkey must improve its human rights record, improve its relations with Greece and solve the Cyprus problem.

Sir David stressed that if there is a solution in Cyprus, this will "remove a really poisoned thorn from this area which is already a rather unstable area without which there would be a lot of difficulty in getting Turkey much closer to the European Union".
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:56 am

Gasman wrote:You missed the bit where I stated I wouldn't like to see Partition in Cyprus. What possible benefit would there be for me or other Brits who have chosen to live here?

That was “strategically” inserted to hide your mask but I’ve been online since 1989; back when you most probably didn’t even know what a computer looked like, so I have over the years acquired an extra sense that allows me to extract more than is written!
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Postby Gasman » Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:12 am

You might profess to have a crystal ball, but you are doing no more than what I am used to - just making up stuff and telling lies - if I don't say something to annoy you and provoke your insults you ignore what I have said and substitute what you think I 'wanted' to say.

I often paste in a link or a quote without adding a comment and you treat the words contained therein as if they were my own! If you cannot find a reason to be rude, obscene and insulting in what is written - you invent one.

I noted a post by you this week where you said Brit bashing on this forum was a new phenomenon, brought on by the Brits on the forum. I've just been reading a thread started two years ago entitled 'stop bashing the brits'. Pants on fire again GR.

I won't make any comment about your long experience with computers and the internet - having seen your website. Suffice to say - websites are my job!

Goodnight.
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