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[Main_Source]

Why dont you admit that Turkey's terrible human rights record and exceptionally high state of nationalism is a fact...and is the main reason why Cyprus is divided today.

[bg_turk]

The main reason why Cyprus is still divided is the Greek rejection of the Annan Plan.

[ChomskyFan]

The main reason why Cyprus is still divided is the Greek rejection of the Annan Plan.

No, Cyprus would still be divided if it were for the Annan Plan.

And Bg_Turk, you don't have a clue about the Annan Plan, we rejected it for a reason, in fact, many reasons. Why should we put up with people like you attacking for exercising democracy?

[bg_turk]

Of course you have evert right to democratically reject the Annan Plan for valid or invalid reasons, but this also requires you to face the consequences that such choices lead to. It should be clear to you that the GC party, not the TC side, is responsible for the failure of the Annan Plan, and therefore the continuation of the division in Cyprus.

[ChomskyFan]

Of course you have evert right to democratically reject the Annan Plan for valid or invalid reasons, but this also requires you to face the consequences that such choices lead to. It should be clear to you that the GC party, not the TC side, is responsible for the failure of the Annan Plan, and therefore the continuation of the division in Cyprus.

How would the Annan Plan have ended division in any way? Practically everything was banned, things like property buying for GC's on the TC side, but TC's have no ban on GC side. bg_turk, I think you are being a bit dishonest with us as well, I have a half Bulgarian friend in my year and you always purport statements about how bulgarians and turks are really close and friendly, and how bulgarians hate greeks, well I asked him about this and he said it was rubbish - He said that at the border between the Turkey and Bulgaria, the Bulgarian border guards make the turks wash their wheels of their cars in bleech. So think before you tell us how much bulgarians hate greeks, because after speaking to this guy, I can tell you have been lying, and that Turks are not exactly the most popular people in Bulgaria.

[gabaston]

ms

if you think that turkey did not have plans for the defence of or invasion of anu of her neighbours then you are living in your fantasy world.

if you think that greeks are carrying on their barbaric murders of the sixties then again you live in fantasy.

no mistake by me turkey had plans drawn up ages ago, always have and always will have- just like you had plans

akritas and isphestos - you still in gah gah land or what?

[Main_Source]

Yes, typical Turkish reaction...everyone is a barbarian except for them.

Well, I think you find the rest of the world thinks the opposite -

are you also still denying the Armenian genocide...?

or why dont you ask Assyrians what they think of your government over the years?

It's funny how so many countries and peoples have been affected by Turkish extreme nationalism over the years...yet people like you Gabaston always seem to think that you are totally innocent.

[gabaston]

i am not saying and never have that everyone other than a turk is barbaric.

i have said many times on this forum that all empires must have been oppressive and barbaric from the first to the last. That is how they become empires. No nation openly invites another to rule it, although some may wish to come under another's protection.

i do not comment too much on the armenian claims, because i really know jack about it. i wasnt there, i do not comment on things of which i have no knowledge. i am not too sure that i am prepared to believe what the french say either. the more i learn of them the less respect i have for them. They had reason at the time to have vested interests in the demise of the turkish empire as did the british, namely the growths of their own respective empires and the demise of a rival. This being said i am prepared to accept that fire makes smoke, but how high the flames? i do not know.

The french like all empires were not entirely angels either, or so some would say, there is talk of so named Allgerian massacres. i wont comment on them as again i was not there and know nothing about them.


ALGIERS, May 8 (Reuters) - President Abdelaziz Bouteflika has called on France to admit its part in the massacres of 45,000 Algerians who took to the streets to demand independence as Europe celebrated victory over Nazi Germany on May 8, 1945.

do the french admit to this?

Its funny how you always assume turkish guilt, even though you can have no experience of events before your time.
As long as gc posts snipe turkish barbarism as justification of gcs own barbaric acts on cyprus 60-73 they shall be reminded of them. Its up to you how we react, just like it has been since independence.

[magikthrill]

The main reason why Cyprus is still divided is the Greek rejection of the Annan Plan.

technically the ONLY reason why Cyprus is still divided is because Turkey chose it this way

[Murtaza]

well,what Turkey should do after 6000 death with lovely makarios?
We both know how this makarios loves Turks.