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Postby fi » Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:10 pm

Violation of Turkish airspace??? You got it the wrong way round my friend.
Or was Greece that was responsible for Imia too? Who has a casus belli on whom about national waters? Isn't Turkey still threatening Greece with war and not the other way around.

Erolz I hate to repeat, I mean TMT, EOKA-B, the ultra-rightist followers of the "Stay-behind" plan in all countries involved by the CIA and UK, US and Turkey goverments who devised the Attila line back in 1965 which funnily enough ended up being the current line.
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Postby fi » Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:11 pm

gabaston wrote:
In so far as common or concerted action may not prove possible, each of the three guaranteeing Powers reserves the right to take action with the sole aim of reestablishing the state of affairs created by
the present Treaty
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No comment!!!!!! :lol:
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Postby Turkey (( * » Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:14 pm

Yes there are violations of Tukish airspace as well as other way round. And if you want a war so much we'll give it to you!! But the important thing is we have patience, war is NOT a good thing.As a nation which lost a lot of people from wars, we know how it feels and what it does, so we use our patience.That is casus belli, fi, but there will be no patience if Turkey is under threat...For now it is patience
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Postby fi » Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:17 pm

Please come to the 21st century.
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Postby erolz » Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:18 pm

fi wrote:
Erolz I hate to repeat, I mean TMT, EOKA-B,


When did EOKA-B come into existance in your view?

In 1964 who were the groups that got us into this mess (ignoring 'foreigners' for the moment)? Just TMT ?

Is Grivas a person in this group that got us into the mess only after the formation of EOKA- B but not before that formation?

I am trying to understand here who you think (cypriot wise) is responsible for the mess we have today.
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Postby Turkey (( * » Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:18 pm

fi wrote:Please come to the 21st century.


Can you expand on that
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Postby gabaston » Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:27 pm

Any such state of affairs had been deemed unworkable and ignored by the gc govt ten years earlier.

the restoration of an unworkable constitution is in itself political and diplomatic stupidity of the highest order and will evidently lead to a repitition of the present situation.

We continue endeavoring to find, welcome and embrace any new workable one.
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Postby Main_Source » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:38 am

Turkish plans for segregation came into effect in the mid 50's.

The Atila line was planned in the mid 60's.

Cyprus is divided by the mid 70's

Why dont you use some common sense instead of blerting out the same old crap that Turkey came to help TC in 1974 because of ten years of inter-communal strife.
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Postby gabaston » Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:06 am

Turkish military is prepared for all eventualities. They have plans for the defense from and invasion to any of their nighbours. That’s what military strategist do, its their job. You saying they had plans in the 50’s and 60’s is merely stating the obvious. Shame your countrymen couldn’t fully appreciate this fact in the 60’s.

Is that the best you can do – suggest I use my common sense – had your fellow countrymen didn’t use any of your higher common sense when they were barbarically murdering tcs- we wouldn’t be in this mess.
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Postby Main_Source » Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:35 am

oh look - Gabaston is still in his fantasy world that Turks are the most innocent race in the world and Turkey was carrying out their 'peace' act.

There are video's of Denktash blatently saying that he bombed TC buildings to create violance...but you are still living is your fantasy world.

At least you have admitted Turkey had plans to invade back in the 1950's...was that a mistake by you?
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