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Postby BigDutch » Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:29 pm

Schnauzer wrote:... Jimmy Light ...
As a sporadic forum visitor i must have missed the mention of this person previously ... who/what/where ?
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Postby CrookedRiverGuy » Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:35 pm

BigDutch wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:... Jimmy Light ...
As a sporadic forum visitor i must have missed the mention of this person previously ... who/what/where ?



Schnauzer's imaginary friend. The phenomena is discussed in full here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaginary_friend
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Postby RichardB » Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:40 pm

CrookedRiverGuy wrote:
BigDutch wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:... Jimmy Light ...
As a sporadic forum visitor i must have missed the mention of this person previously ... who/what/where ?



Schnauzer's imaginary friend. The phenomena is discussed in full here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaginary_friend


Jimmy Light is NOT Imaginary

Only the other week he was conversing with the president of the Republic at the gates to the pres palace re Property purchases ( although not being privvy to what was said he was obviously on good terms with the man himself)
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Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:56 pm

Jack M wrote:Yes but you made a statement, nay even said you are sure of it, that there are more trouble free transactions than those with problems.

Are you saying people are only allowed to answer part of your post because from talking with many people regarding their experiences I am sure your comment is incorrect.


Jack, Richard,
As I said, I dont have a problem with anybody wishing to positive comments, but for balance negative comments should also be allowed, particularly if they relate to a developer or a lawyer who has been praised as good: in that respect, one of the problems one might face is as with that hit and run poster, Richardklien, you might have stooges or spoof posters who come out either praising a particular developer, who might be a complete Sh!t, or unfairly condemning some one.

The one thing that we should try to avoid is that within this topic it is dominated by debate on any one developer - separate topics if that happens.

I do otherwise agree that the good developer and the good lawyers should be using what ever influence they have to restore the public image of the property market, and of Cyprus, by urging the Government to take urgent action to deal with the worst excesses, such as the IPOT scams, the mortgage scams. etc., while ensuring that no purchaser looeses a property they have paid for. indeed what poerhaps taints the property market and the country as whole, rightly or wrongly, due nto a percception (correct or not) of government inaction..
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Postby Schnauzer » Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:53 pm

CrookedRiverGuy wrote:
BigDutch wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:... Jimmy Light ...
As a sporadic forum visitor i must have missed the mention of this person previously ... who/what/where ?



Schnauzer's imaginary friend. The phenomena is discussed in full here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaginary_friend



For the benefit of those that do not know, Jimmy Light is a most interesting character, he likes to describe himself as a 'Gentleman of the road' and he is the only homeless person I know of, who does NOT rely on 'Social Handouts' for his sustenance.

He has an extremely wide circle of friends and is of such a charismatic nature that he is known throughout the UK. (particularly among Circus, Fairground and Show-business personalities) who are always delighted to welcome his company.

I have known the chap for several years, he is a most worthy and humble person which endears him to so many.

Jimmy is not an educated man (in an academic sense) his general appearance and shabby clothing belie his manner and principles, I can vouchsafe that I have never heard him utter a disrespectful word in the company of a Lady, indeed, often has he apologized for his inability to speak quite as correctly as one should (although he does not feel inferior) but the tales he tells of his experiences, would be less entertaining if he "Torked Proppa".

My clumsy attempts to emulate his vocabulary in print, do him little justice I assure you.

As to 'Respect' (I would like to mention one small point) Jimmy Light would be most disconcerted if he were to be in the company of any who offered insult to a Lady in his presence, he would defend her honour with all the vigour he could muster and, were he to witness the filthy language that some members use when addressing Ladies on this forum, I doubt if he would be able to control his anger.

Have a care you utterer's of obscenities to 'Fair Maidens', lest I unleash the fury of Jimmy Light upon you ALL. :wink:
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Postby SSBubbles » Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:12 pm

Oracle wrote:Not dealt with any Developers (yet) but the lawyers/doctors/cops/shop assistants/women/men etc. are all jolly good! :D (... actually, it was a British Developer (in Cyprus) who left me cold to the idea of "new". :?)


Pe mas O, have you had ANY bad dealing with a Cypriot? I honestly doubt that you would admit to it even if you had! :roll:
Strange that there is always a bad 'Brit' around you- considering the diversity of population these days! :roll:
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Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:24 pm

Jack M wrote:Yes but you made a statement, nay even said you are sure of it, that there are more trouble free transactions than those with problems.

Are you saying people are only allowed to answer part of your post because from talking with many people regarding their experiences I am sure your comment is incorrect.


Jack, Richard,
As I said, I dont have a problem with anybody wishing to positive comments, but for balance negative comments should also be allowed, particularly if they relate to a developer or a lawyer who has been praised as good: in that respect, one of the problems one might face is as with that hit and run poster, Richardklien, you might have stooges or spoof posters who come out either praising a particular developer, who might be a complete Sh!t, or unfairly condemning some one.

The one thing that we should try to avoid is that within this topic it is dominated by debate on any one developer - separate topics if that happens.

I do otherwise agree that the good developer and the good lawyers should be using what ever influence they have to restore the public image of the property market, and of Cyprus, by urging the Government to take urgent action to deal with the worst excesses, such as the IPOT scams, the mortgage scams. etc., while ensuring that no purchaser looeses a property they have paid for. indeed what poerhaps taints the property market and the country as whole, rightly or wrongly, due nto a percception (correct or not) of government inaction..
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Re: The show a little respect for Cypriot developers/Lawyers

Postby SSBubbles » Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:27 pm

RichardB wrote:
SSBubbles wrote:Richard, I am pleased that you have had 'no trouble' so to speak; it is always good to hear positive outcomes.

Correct me if I am wrong but you have a Cypriot wife yes? Did she assist you? Do you think that her being Cypriot and maybe having the right contacts helped?

What do you suggest others (non Greek speakers) can do in order to experience the same happy endings?


Hi Bubbles, Yes my wife is Cypriot but I honestly dont believe that this had any influence on the purchases. I certainly do not have any contacts in the Cyprus Legal/Property developers profession. Hi Richard, thanks for this.

My recent dealings with a Cypriot solicitor did not involve my wife at all

As to suggestions I can only reiterate what has been said on forum many times ie Do your homework , Ask for references from the Developer from other customers , Talk to the niehbours on any complex you are looking at purchasing on, ask other Brits or better still local cypriots for recommendations, Get an out of town Lawyer there are many competant ones in Nicosia who can quite easily represent you say for a purchase in Pafos who will not have dealings with the developers and operate independently. Get all documentation in English, if you dont speak Greek and the developer cannot provide ...Dont purchase its a recipe for disaster. Listen up everyone.

Not speaking Greek is not a problem as all the legal profession are more than competent in English Sorry, but I do not agree with this 100% - by that I mean whilst I do not doubt Cypriots ability to speak English, sometimes some things can and do get 'lost in translation'
Cant really say much more

BTW did you have any probs with your purchase ..Or are you renting ..which is another sensible suggestion
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Re: The show a little respect for Cypriot developers/Lawyers

Postby janet.smith653 » Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:15 pm

RichardB wrote:In response to a few recent threads villifying Cypriot developers/Lawyers/General Cypriot populace recently

I thought it time to start one for forum members to give voice to defend the honour of the aforesaid

Whilst appreciating the genuine grievences of some I am sure there are far more members who have had trouble free purchases and dealings with these people.

I have purchased 2 properties trouble free ( 1 new and one resale) and found no particular problems with either.

I have also recently (in the last 6 manths ) had dealings with a lawyer regarding an unsettled bill dispute with a well known Nicosia hospital.. I must say that dispute was also settled very amicably.

in no cases did i have problems because I am a Brit

So please show your support for this nuch maligned section of the cypriot people
I am not saying that all developers and lawyers are bad , but i wonder if your comments would be different if you were in our shoes,
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Re: The show a little respect for Cypriot developers/Lawyers

Postby RichardB » Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:27 pm

janet.smith653 wrote:
RichardB wrote:In response to a few recent threads villifying Cypriot developers/Lawyers/General Cypriot populace recently

I thought it time to start one for forum members to give voice to defend the honour of the aforesaid

Whilst appreciating the genuine grievences of some I am sure there are far more members who have had trouble free purchases and dealings with these people.

I have purchased 2 properties trouble free ( 1 new and one resale) and found no particular problems with either.

I have also recently (in the last 6 manths ) had dealings with a lawyer regarding an unsettled bill dispute with a well known Nicosia hospital.. I must say that dispute was also settled very amicably.

in no cases did i have problems because I am a Brit

So please show your support for this nuch maligned section of the cypriot people
I am not saying that all developers and lawyers are bad , but i wonder if your comments would be different if you were in our shoes,


I realise that Janet and i cannot comment how I would feel in your shoes
not having found myself in the situation you are in. Despite some of the comments on this thread I am not trying to belittle anyones unfortunate predicament and do deeply sympathise with that.

What has happened recently on forum is that we have had a number of threads along the lines of yours and all the asssosiated negative comments re the Cypriot Legal/property developers which go with it

Many people read these forums to gain information about purchasing and general living in Cyprus and no one had put a positive slant on this so these people go away thinking all purchases of property end up as a nightmare as in your case.

There are many thousands of expats and Cypriots who have not had any major problems when purchasing property and there are many good estate agents , Lawyers and Developers on the Island and it is these who I wish to support.

As usual the threads get taken over by the usual attention speakers who jump on the ''bash a Cypriot '' bandwagon its unfortunate but true.
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