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[RichardB]

Wouldn't it be absolutely fantastic if people actually could buy a property without having their lives ruined and being robbed of their life savings?

There's a novel concept if ever I heard of one. Happy customers who can just live peacefully.

AT LAST JACK

I DID make 2 trouble free transactions and wanted to provide others with similar experiences a place here to provide their positive comments with out clogging up the more negative property purchase threads.

I am so glad that you now understand and can post your positive aspects of purchase and dealings with the Cypriot system here And maybe your negative ones on one of the other threads

than you

[Jack M]

Yes but you made a statement, nay even said you are sure of it, that there are more trouble free transactions than those with problems.

Are you saying people are only allowed to answer part of your post because from talking with many people regarding their experiences I am sure your comment is incorrect.

[Oracle]

Wouldn't it be absolutely fantastic if people actually could buy a property without having their lives ruined and being robbed of their life savings?

There's a novel concept if ever I heard of one. Happy customers who can just live peacefully.

Apologies to RichardB.

"James M", is clearly intent on trolling

You and the other 'Conor Cheerleading crony and forum troll' should take your moans back to the "Midlands" so that we can have less opportunists like this guy and your idol, giving Cyprus a bad name or ripping off decent buyers ....



British developer shatters Cyprus retirement dreams


A British developer has left nothing but shattered dreams for people planning to retire in Cyprus. Adrian Mills promised luxurious homes in the sunshine but left his clients hundreds of thousands of pounds out of pocket.

By: Nigel Howarth

Published: November 16th, 2010

YESTERDAY ‘Inside Out West’ reported on a British property developer with some serious questions to answer, having fled Cyprus after taking an alleged €2.5 million from his customers since 2004.

The BBC investigative team tracked down Adrian Mills, the Managing Director of MDE Nest Homes, to the Gloucestershire village of Dursley where they confronted him.

After numerous court hearings in Cyprus, the judicial system failed to bring Mills to justice. The criminal case against him was dropped by the authorities after he failed to appear in court.

Properties built in the Paphos village of Nata were never completed and many suffer from major structural problems. Mills sold more properties at Choletria, but work on these never started.

An independent surveyor who visited one of the properties at Nata in 2007 declared the site unsafe; Nest Homes had never completed the project.

Speaking to the reporter Jonathan Barnett, who bought a property off-plan in Choletria and who paid more than £200,000 up front, said: “He (Mills) is a complete fantasist, a pathological liar – I have nothing but contempt for the man!” adding that “It’s been a complete and utter nightmare. I have never suffered so much stress in my entire life and we see no end in sight.”

Ann Hinton had a lucky escape. She cancelled her contract when she saw the state of her home as it was being built. Ann was one of four buyers who eventually won a civil court judgement in Cyprus against Nest Homes for more than €1 million and who have been chasing the money ever since.

A tearful Ms Hinton said “I would like to think that he (Mills) would be made to feel like he has made myself and others feel. But quite clearly, he has no conscience. ”

Mills owes tens of thousands of pounds in personal loans made by former friends. One of them, Bernie Bowhay, said: “I’m disgusted at the way he has treated me.”

The investigative team also discovered that tens of thousands of pounds paid by the buyers went directly to Adrian Mills himself, sometimes in cash.
http://www.news.cyprus-property-buyers. ... /id=006202

[RichardB]

Yes but you made a statement, nay even said you are sure of it, that there are more trouble free transactions than those with problems.

Are you saying people are only allowed to answer part of your post because from talking with many people regarding their experiences I am sure your comment is incorrect.

Yes Jack thats correct, I am sure their are more people had trouble free transactions than those who had problems. Among my circle of freinds in Cyprus no one has had any major problems TBH the subject is rarely discussed ...Usually only when someone buys a new home.

Regarding the second part of your post there are plenty of other threads on forum to post these without the need to hi-Jack (pardon the pun) this one. Or start a disillusioned purchasers thread maybe!!

[Jack M]

I don't think Richard wants comments like that on his thread Oracle.

One of my points has always been that the Cypriot legal system is not fit for purpose.

Yes this scumbag is equally as bad as the others but

After numerous court hearings in Cyprus, the judicial system failed to bring Mills to justice. The criminal case against him was dropped by the authorities after he failed to appear in court.

Is there no extradition treaty between the UK and Cyprus? They've certainly managed to bring others to justice when their crime has been against Cypriots.

[Jack M]

Yes but you made a statement, nay even said you are sure of it, that there are more trouble free transactions than those with problems.

Are you saying people are only allowed to answer part of your post because from talking with many people regarding their experiences I am sure your comment is incorrect.

Yes Jack thats correct, I am sure their are more people had trouble free transactions than those who had problems. Among my circle of freinds in Cyprus no one has had any major problems TBH the subject is rarely discussed ...Usually only when someone buys a new home.

Regarding the second part of your post there are plenty of other threads on forum to post these without the need to hi-Jack (pardon the pun) this one. Or start a disillusioned purchasers thread maybe!!

So none of your friends has had major problems. That does not make them trouble free though as you stated does it.

My point is that until someone has title deeds they don't even know whether they have a problem or not do they?

I'm not saying that problems don't happen in the UK but I know an awful lot more people here than there and I don't know anyone who has ever had a problem with a purchase. That however isn't relevant to the thread.

[RichardB]

Yes but you made a statement, nay even said you are sure of it, that there are more trouble free transactions than those with problems.

Are you saying people are only allowed to answer part of your post because from talking with many people regarding their experiences I am sure your comment is incorrect.

Yes Jack thats correct, I am sure their are more people had trouble free transactions than those who had problems. Among my circle of freinds in Cyprus no one has had any major problems TBH the subject is rarely discussed ...Usually only when someone buys a new home.

Regarding the second part of your post there are plenty of other threads on forum to post these without the need to hi-Jack (pardon the pun) this one. Or start a disillusioned purchasers thread maybe!!

So none of your friends has had major problems. That does not make them trouble free though as you stated does it.

My point is that until someone has title deeds they don't even know whether they have a problem or not do they?

I'm not saying that problems don't happen in the UK but I know an awful lot more people here than there and I don't know anyone who has ever had a problem with a purchase. That however isn't relevant to the thread.

Being a bit pedantic Jack I think

I am sure you understand that when i say major problems I mean the ones recently outlined on forum so vociferously.

Minor problems may occur such as Dates of Exchange etc but do not have any major bearing on the transaction.

Not sure what you mean in the second paragraph- think maybe you need to edit it as the way it reads has every relevance

[Jack M]

And you say I'm being pedantic?

I think I made it quite clear I was talking about the UK. I even mentioned it in the paragraph. Had I been talking about Cyprus in that paragraph I'd have said so.

In relation to Cyprus, what I am saying is that until the day people go to pick up their deeds they have no idea whether they are going to be a victim of IPT scamming, they have no idea whether their developer has the money to pay his GCT or whether they are going to be asked to pay it.

In the intervening years they have to live a very restricted life, unable to make even slight alterations to their property like putting up a pergola to protect them from the sun.

There are thousands living under the cloud of knowing their developer has a mortgage on their land and insecure whether they will continue having a roof over their heads, the most basic of human needs.

[supporttheunderdog]

I dont have a problem with anybody posting positive comments about the good developers and lawyers - hopefully buyers can be steered in their direction - I'll start the the positive recommedations with lawyer Areti Charidimou in Limassol. I was buying resale and she steered me away from a 20 year old property without tittle deeds: this was because of some divergance between what was approved for the plot and what had been constructed: the seller effectively walked out of the deal when at Areti's recommendation we suggested employing an independant architect to review the plans. When we found a property with deeds that we likeed, she/her team made sure the purchase stayed on track.

[Schnauzer]

Jimmy Light has just built a house with the assistance of the management and staff at 'Carrefore' in Larnaka, he has been given the task of cleaning up the car parking area in return for food provisions and some cash.

Jimmy says that he is absolutely delighted ("'Ighly bleed'en chuffed") with the help he has received.

He has made friends with the local police, has found a local restaurant 'The Famagusta' where he has become friendly with those who frequent the place.

All in all, I doubt if Jimmy could be 'Paid' to cast doubt on the integrity and hospitality of the Cypriot businesspeople, "C'or blimey guvna" said Jimmy when I spoke to him last night, "It 'enarf good ova 'ere, only fing is, I carnt get a good kip in me carbawd 'ouse wot wiv der bleeden mo'ah bikes up an' darn the bleeden road"

Apparently Jimmy has built his house of cardboard boxes on the land opposite Carrefore's, but knowing Jim, he will probably find some way of sleeping in one of the vehicles parked there for sale.

"An' anuvva fing" said Jimmy " Gawd 'elp me if I 'av lernt ta tork a few werds, Gally Maira Guvna, luvly peepal, gertcha!"

Yes folks, if you need a reference, ask Jimmy, one thing about HIM is, his loyalty cannot be bought.