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Postby georgios100 » Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:18 pm

Some post-settlement financial predictions might be what is listed below...



The leaderships, supported by powerful voices from Turkey, Greece and beyond, must begin to tell the story of what a post-settlement Cyprus could look like. There is much to say:

1. normalization with Turkey would allow Cyprus's sagging tourism industry to benefit from an influx of Turkish tourists.

2. Cyprus could become a genuine financial and service hub in the east Mediterranean, Cypriot businesses could begin to invest in Turkey, and Turkish companies would find a rich new market.

3. A major bi-communal survey predicted in February that, based on the huge rise in trade and investment between Greece and Turkey since 1999, a settlement would add a minimum of 10percentage points to the Cypriot economy within seven years.

4. From being a burden and source of tension, Cyprus, with its low taxes, strategic position and relatively efficient government, would become a confident, cosmopolitan society and booming beacon of prosperity in the eastern Mediterranean. That would be good for all Cypriots, and for Turkey too.


http://www.crisisgroup.org/en/regions/e ... yprus.aspx

Given the above is feasible why is Turkey still maintaining a negative stance towards the Cyprob?
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Re: Post-settlement economic predictions

Postby Get Real! » Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:33 pm

georgios100 wrote:Some post-settlement financial predictions might be what is listed below...

Incentives under a BBF? :lol:
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Re: Post-settlement economic predictions

Postby georgios100 » Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:08 pm

Get Real! wrote:
georgios100 wrote:Some post-settlement financial predictions might be what is listed below...

Incentives under a BBF? :lol:


Yeah, these are under a BBF pending solution.

Economically, the BBF is idiot proof... everyone benefits.
Politically, it might be viable, with possible constitutional amendments applied over the years to come adjusting future unforeseen issues.

Erdogan's government legitimacy status is literally hanging up in the air... he knows his occupying troops in CY are a major hurdle for the future of Turkey.

Saving face is costing Erdogan & Turkey a great deal of money... rumors of fiscal instability in Turkey are rampant... resolving the Cyprob would save Turkey hundreds of millions... what is he waiting for?
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:03 pm

George, I've borrowed this piece from elsewhere to point something out pertaining to undemocratic political arrangements...

From the Library of Congress...

The 1960 constitution did not succeed in providing the framework for a lasting compromise between Greek and Turkish Cypriots. Rather, its bicommunal features impeded administration and gave rise to continuing dissension, which culminated finally in armed violence between members of the two communities. Beginning in late 1963, Turkish Cypriots withdrew from the government, and by 1965 the Greek Cypriots were in full charge.


http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?f ... CID+cy0115)

The idea is to learn from our past mistakes not repeat them with an even greater dose!
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Postby humanist » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:22 pm

GR as annoying as I find you at times with your smart alec comments ... I do admire the way you find information that makes me think that the ZUN have got this all so wrong and that after 35 years you would think they would say to Turkey .... bugger off. Cyprus is one nation Island with the majority population and several minorities, they all human beings and should be treated as so, under the banner of Republic of Cyprus and same as any other EU citizen.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:45 pm

humanist wrote:GR as annoying as I find you at times with your smart alec comments ... I do admire the way you find information that makes me think that the ZUN have got this all so wrong and that after 35 years you would think they would say to Turkey .... bugger off. Cyprus is one nation Island with the majority population and several minorities, they all human beings and should be treated as so, under the banner of Republic of Cyprus and same as any other EU citizen.

But the UN did do the right thing immediately after the invasion by fully condemning Turkey and reminding the world who is who on Cyprus.

In 1983, the UN once again lashed out at Turkey with total condemnation of Turkey’s puppet state declarations and reaffirmation of international law.

The only downside to the UN’s decisions was the exclusion of a parallel course of action should Turkey fail to abide by the UN’s decisions, and for that you can only blame the United States which blocked any such moves leaving all UN resolutions at “non-binding” level.

To be honest, the UN does try but we (humanity) have failed the UN with our corruption and double standards!
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Postby humanist » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:20 pm

But that just my argument GR ..... if you have a neutral body called UN then they should impose action on wrong doers ..... Otherwise its just rhetoric ...... Turkey ain't gonna budge knowing that she is rewarded for her actions
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:23 pm

humanist wrote:But that just my argument GR ..... if you have a neutral body called UN then they should impose action on wrong doers ..... Otherwise its just rhetoric ...... Turkey ain't gonna budge knowing that she is rewarded for her actions

Unfortunately, all such action depends on the unanimous approval of UNSC permanent members, so if you have ONE bad apple among them justice cannot be served!

Why do you think I tirelessly campaign against the corrupt US who have caused umpteen suffering to millions around the world!
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:27 pm

Get Real! wrote:George, I've borrowed this piece from elsewhere to point something out pertaining to undemocratic political arrangements...

From the Library of Congress...

The 1960 constitution did not succeed in providing the framework for a lasting compromise between Greek and Turkish Cypriots. Rather, its bicommunal features impeded administration and gave rise to continuing dissension, which culminated finally in armed violence between members of the two communities. Beginning in late 1963, Turkish Cypriots withdrew from the government, and by 1965 the Greek Cypriots were in full charge.


http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?f ... CID+cy0115)

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If you are not up for nothing but ethnic domination, then no genius plan will work and everything can be called "undemocratic", when in reality is that a "true democracy" will probably be the only undemocratic option considering how racist and discriminative a lot of your leaders and people are.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:32 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Get Real! wrote:George, I've borrowed this piece from elsewhere to point something out pertaining to undemocratic political arrangements...

From the Library of Congress...

The 1960 constitution did not succeed in providing the framework for a lasting compromise between Greek and Turkish Cypriots. Rather, its bicommunal features impeded administration and gave rise to continuing dissension, which culminated finally in armed violence between members of the two communities. Beginning in late 1963, Turkish Cypriots withdrew from the government, and by 1965 the Greek Cypriots were in full charge.


http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?f ... CID+cy0115)

The idea is to learn from our past mistakes not repeat them with an even greater dose!


If you are not up for nothing but ethnic domination, then no genius plan will work and everything can be called "undemocratic", when in reality is that a "true democracy" will probably be the only undemocratic option considering how racist and discriminative a lot of your leaders and people are.

I don’t know about “ethnic domination” but an overwhelming majority that controls an odd 95% of the country’s wealth can’t be ignored so if I were a TC I’d remember the old saying… "if you can’t beat them join them" and/or "when in Rome do as the Romans do!" :lol:
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