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Recording of what Jack Straw said.

Postby yialousa1971 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:06 pm

Here is a recording of what the Anglo Jew said:-

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Postby yialousa1971 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:13 pm

Turkey’s president Abdullah Gul is in London this week to pick up the Chatham House Prize http://www.chathamhouse.org.uk/events/special_events/chatham_house_prize/2010/ for – wait for it – ‘his contribution to improving international relations’. The prize is going to be given to him by the Queen. This is all part of Britain’s policy of bowing and scraping http://www.number10.gov.uk/news/speeches-and-transcripts/2010/07/pms-speech-in-turkey-53869 to the Turks. One of the chief exponents of this kow-towing is Jack Straw, foreign secretary from 2001-2006 in Tony Blair’s Labour government. To coincide with Gul’s visit, Straw has been making Turkey’s case on Cyprus in the press (see report in Greek here http://www.ikypros.com/easyconsole.cfm/id/5105 ) and on the airwaves, explaining that in order for Turkey’s EU accession process to go ahead, the obstacle of Cyprus must be removed and this should be done by formally partitioning the island and recognising – Kosovo-style – an independent Turkish state in the north. Above is what the ignorant liar Straw said on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme this morning. Prepare to be violently ill.

http://hellenicantidote.blogspot.com/2010/11/jack-straw-says-cyprus-should-be.html
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Postby Gasman » Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:58 pm

People dismiss Jack Straw as a nobody and a has been. I found the response by William Hague (Foreign Secretary) to Jack Straw in Parliament on Tuesday to be rather more intriguing:

T7. [22555] Mr Jack Straw (Blackburn) (Lab): Although I fully understand our treaty obligations on Cyprus, and I wish next week's talks with Ban Ki-moon well, will the Foreign Secretary acknowledge the reality that there continues to be de facto partition, from which the Greek Cypriot side benefits and with which it is comfortable, but which leaves the Turkish Cypriots in isolated limbo? Does he agree that that situation cannot go on as it is?

Mr Hague: The right hon. Gentleman is right to recognise our treaty obligations. He will know that we want the forthcoming talks hosted by the UN Secretary-General to be a success and that, as my hon. Friend the Minister for Europe said earlier, we have been supporting the work of Alexander Downer, the UN negotiator.

I read the right hon. Gentleman's article in the newspapers yesterday, so I am fully cognisant of his views on this matter, but I am sure he will appreciate that, as the incumbent Foreign Secretary, I do not want to say anything at this moment that might make those talks more difficult.


No censure, no disagreement, confirmation that he supports Downer (who is well pissed off with it all) and sounds to me like he obviously does have something to say - but seems to think it will cause problems.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:24 pm

Finally, he has read up the 1960 constitution and realises his mistake. He's excusing himself. On the one hand we wants to promote Turkey's EU accession for the sake of the destabilizing tactics the UK has stored up and on the other hand he knows full well the UK has no jurisdiction over partitioning Cyprus. :D

Hopefully, the turnaround we have witnessed in the British press (FT) since this mistake was made, will put paid to it all.

The Brits support partition, the Brits lose Bases! End of! :D


Too much swallowing for us to believe his lies ... Nasty little man!

98% Muslim? How backward can you be ...
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Postby ZoC » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:34 pm

Gasman wrote:People dismiss Jack Straw as a nobody and a has been. I found the response by William Hague (Foreign Secretary) to Jack Straw in Parliament on Tuesday to be rather more intriguing:

T7. [22555] Mr Jack Straw (Blackburn) (Lab): Although I fully understand our treaty obligations on Cyprus, and I wish next week's talks with Ban Ki-moon well, will the Foreign Secretary acknowledge the reality that there continues to be de facto partition, from which the Greek Cypriot side benefits and with which it is comfortable, but which leaves the Turkish Cypriots in isolated limbo? Does he agree that that situation cannot go on as it is?

Mr Hague: The right hon. Gentleman is right to recognise our treaty obligations. He will know that we want the forthcoming talks hosted by the UN Secretary-General to be a success and that, as my hon. Friend the Minister for Europe said earlier, we have been supporting the work of Alexander Downer, the UN negotiator.

I read the right hon. Gentleman's article in the newspapers yesterday, so I am fully cognisant of his views on this matter, but I am sure he will appreciate that, as the incumbent Foreign Secretary, I do not want to say anything at this moment that might make those talks more difficult.


No censure, no disagreement, confirmation that he supports Downer (who is well pissed off with it all) and sounds to me like he obviously does have something to say - but seems to think it will cause problems.


really? wot do u think he's got to say?
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Postby Gasman » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:46 pm

From House of Commons Select Committee:

From the UN perspective there is no military solution to the Cyprus problem. If a political settlement is agreed, a new UN mandate will be needed. UN troop levels will need to be significantly increased to assist with the implementation. In those circumstances the UN troops might have responsibility for patrolling not just a narrow buffer zone but the whole island. Their role would include providing assurance to both communities, liaison, and extra monitoring and verification work. UK forces might also need to be increased as part of this package. This will pose a challenge for the MoD
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:48 pm

Talks cannot go on forever Straw is right there has to be a default plan to derail GC intrangience and despot attitude.
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Postby ZoC » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:56 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Talks cannot go on forever Straw is right there has to be a default plan to derail GC intrangience and despot attitude.


which is? come on... threaten with something tangible, or shut up, 'cos we've heard it all before.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:57 pm

Talks can go on forever. Turks cannot go on forever! :D
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Postby ZoC » Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:12 am

any other brits or turks want to come here and issue some idle threats to cypriots? come on... i'm in the mood for wiping the floor with you.
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