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[Schnauzer]

President Obama recently addressed the Indian Parliament and, without wishing to ridicule his obvious desire to present his nation as something of an example for other nations to follow, I could not help but wonder just how the man had the 'Gall' to touch on two particular subjects.

The first of these (by no means original statements) was when he alluded to the proposal that,"No nation should ever try to impose it's 'Values' upon another nation", this of course is a play on words which earlier was put as "No nation should ever impose it's 'Will' upon other nations" and was uttered as something of a 'Get out clause' to excuse the excessive force being used throughout the Middle East, to quell that which was seen as 'Terrorism' but may well be interpreted as resistance to aggression by those accused of such.

As to Obama's reference to 'Values', one could easily interpret that to mean that he might secretly consider the culture of India to be superior to that back home.

A moot point which has been severally contested in the past.

The second subject he chose to address (and the one which I find quite astonishing)

Touched on the subject of 'Civilian casualties' when he actually stated that "Nothing ever justifies the slaughter of innocent men, women and children!".

I daresay that he was once again attempting to shift the onus of blame on 'Terrorism' (or resistance to aggression as 'I' prefer to view it IMHO) BUT. for THIS man, whose nation has been and is currently responsible for the slaughter of more innocents than Genghis and Kubla Khan put together, to have the audacity to even mention the 'Innocents of slaughter' is (in my humble opinion, as always) beyond belief.

The entire speech is available to anyone interested enough to read the weasel words of a President under considerable pressure to repair the damage of his predecessor, but, notwithstanding that fact, I think his speech writer should have recognized the possibility that somebody might notice the awful insincerity in such statements.

[miltiades]

Another American hater, due to insecurities no doubt , piss pot shut it !!America like it or not stupid is the greatest nation on earth after Cyprus of course !
What is it with you people , is it perhaps that the more stupid one is the more anti West one is !!

[Gasman]

Shouldn't this be in one of the 'EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD EXCEPT CYPRUS is Committing War Crimes' GR Rant threads?

Some of the GC views expressed here regarding the US and all things US are obviously not shared by many otherwise ... why would all those Greek Cypriots choose to live there?

[B25]

Shouldn't this be in one of the 'EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD EXCEPT CYPRUS is Committing War Crimes' GR Rant threads?

Some of the GC views expressed here regarding the US and all things US are obviously not shared by many otherwise ... why would all those Greek Cypriots choose to live there?

I guess for the same reason you chose to live here, yet haven't a good word to say for us... Hypocrite.

[miltiades]

Shouldn't this be in one of the 'EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD EXCEPT CYPRUS is Committing War Crimes' GR Rant threads?

Some of the GC views expressed here regarding the US and all things US are obviously not shared by many otherwise ... why would all those Greek Cypriots choose to live there?

I guess for the same reason you chose to live here, yet haven't a good word to say for us... Hypocrite.

Has it ever occurred to you that Gasman might just like Cyprus and its people , perhaps why she is in Cyprus. To criticize your place of abode is every citizens right.

As for the first class plonker , or rather malaka or malakas since it appears there are two major wankers who despise the West having obtained the ability to read and write as well as speak English courtesy of the West.
Both should rush and join the Talibans they should nor waste a moment longer , off they piss off then f..ng idiots !!!

[Gasman]

I can like living in a country and still dislike litter, animal cruelty, racism, bigotry and will speak out against those things.

If I was still living in the UK I would speak out against them wherever I come across them there.

But I live in Cyprus. If I was Brit bashing and running down the UK having left it, I could understand criticism of me.

I don't defend the UK but I do think the Cyps on here who choose to live there in preference to Cyprus are out of order.

No doubt the same as they would if I was posting diatribes of hate and racism against Cyprus and Cypriots whilst living in the UK.

It is the people who LIVE in a country who are best placed to try to change things they don't like about it. And who are AFFECTED by those things in their day to day life.

If you don't like it - tough. And you've missed the whole point as usual. GR is not living in the US - he is living in Cyprus and criticising the US from here.

[B25]

Shouldn't this be in one of the 'EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD EXCEPT CYPRUS is Committing War Crimes' GR Rant threads?

Some of the GC views expressed here regarding the US and all things US are obviously not shared by many otherwise ... why would all those Greek Cypriots choose to live there?

I guess for the same reason you chose to live here, yet haven't a good word to say for us... Hypocrite.

Has it ever occurred to you that Gasman might just like Cyprus and its people , perhaps why she is in Cyprus. To criticize your place of abode is every citizens right.

As for the first class plonker , or rather malaka or malakas since it appears there are two major wankers who despise the West having obtained the ability to read and write as well as speak English courtesy of the West.
Both should rush and join the Talibans they should nor waste a moment longer , off they piss off then f..ng idiots !!!

Milti, you completely failed to understand her post.

She says that GCs in the US do not share GRs et al views on it, hence they are there, which is completely contrary to what she is doing. IE living in Cyprus and has views on it similar to GRs views on the US. Its not the same as making A criticism, it is a case of slate Cyprus and its people's every move.

Do you not see that.

Believe me, gasfart does not need you or anyone else to fight her corner, she is a venomous creature and can do very well by herself.

Btw, nice piece about Iris, may she RIP.

[Bananiot]

Antiamericanism - socialism of the cretins.

[Gasman]

what she is doing. IE living in Cyprus and has views on it similar to GRs views on the US.

You are either off your trolley or are criticising my postings without having read them.

I do not accuse Cyprus of committing war crimes!

But I do think they could sort out their sewage system so that visitors do not have to be confronted with the 'no paper in the toilet' signs in airports, restaurants and hotels here!

And I do wish they took more pride in the island and didn't chuck litter everywhere.

And I do wish they picked up their dogs' shit.

And I do wish (some of them) weren't so racist and bigotted - and didn't condone animal cruelty, road death toll, crooked property developers and lawyers - not just condone it - some on here positively APPLAUD it!

Purely because, in my view, they give a very BAD impression to others of a country that I happen to love and like living in.

But, as I've said before, most of them don't have to live here so aren't affected by any of the above. Diaspora Armchair Dictators.

[miltiades]

what she is doing. IE living in Cyprus and has views on it similar to GRs views on the US.

You are either off your trolley or are criticising my postings without having read them.

I do not accuse Cyprus of committing war crimes!

But I do think they could sort out their sewage system so that visitors do not have to be confronted with the 'no paper in the toilet' signs in airports, restaurants and hotels here!

And I do wish they took more pride in the island and didn't chuck litter everywhere.

And I do wish they picked up their dogs' shit.

And I do wish (some of them) weren't so racist and bigotted - and didn't condone animal cruelty, road death toll, crooked property developers and lawyers - not just condone it - some on here positively APPLAUD it!

Purely because, in my view, they give a very BAD impression to others of a country that I happen to love and like living in.

But, as I've said before, most of them don't have to live here so aren't affected by any of the above. Diaspora Armchair Dictators.

The vast majority of Cypriots in the diaspora do have concerns concerning numerous aspects of Cyprus living , not least the continued , at a much smaller scale I ought to add since my youth days here , cruelty to animals which stems out of ignorance and not necessarily malice. I my self as a child growing up in Cyprus showed cruelty to animals , did not know better just as today's youths might be behaving towards animals.
There are so many advantages of living in Cyprus and its not only the weather but the general pace of life , the family commitment that we see daily and the high level of self respect and integrity that exists amongst the majority of the Cypriot people.
When in Cyprus I do as the Cypriots do , well almost , I drive sensibly , I try and speak the local language never once mixing Greek with English and generally behave as a good Cypriot ought to.
We place a great deal of importance to our family's welfare ( so does the majority of the English people ) and respect our forthright approach to the bizarre and weird!!!
The English in Cyprus , by English I do not mean the military presence either now or in the past , but the good old English people whom I got to know and understand so well over my almost 50 years of being in the UK , HAVE OFFERED MUCH TO THE CYPRIOT ECONOMY AND CONTRIBUTED GREATLY TO THE REDUCTION OF ANIMAL CRUELTY WHICH WAS RAMPANT IN MY DAYS IN CYPRUS.
Bars , Restaurants , Hotels all rely on the Brit to spend money at their respective establishments.Long may they continue to live and holiday in Cyprus.
Many Cypriots remain in the diaspora , UK or elsewhere , dictated by circumstances ,the fact that the vast majority have "Roots" firmly developed , children , grandchildren etc and its not an easy decision to up root and come to Cyprus.
My case is almost similar , I have a son in the UK , no children , and also a business that I worked very hard to develop , not easy during the recession to dispose of so I decided that for the time being I shall visit Cyprus as often as pos until one day ....