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How did Turkish Cypriots eliminate 5,000 GCs in 1974?

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Postby Get Real! » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:30 am

BirKibrisli wrote:closing cases on an internet forum is very easy...GR is doing it all the time... :) Not so in real life..

The question to be asked is :Who else could the TCs trust back in 1963 if not Turkey...The GCs???I know for sure that at least in one real life case the GCs had advised some TCs not to return to the "Greek" sector,as their lives could not be guaranteed...No,this was not in Parliament but at Barclays Bank where one of my uncles was working at the time...Their GC colleagues told them outright not to return to work till the situation calmed down...Well,it never did...It is easy to pontificate from the safety of our keyboards in our safe heavens,is it not??? :(

Even if we put the entire past to rest, what can we say about the present TC policy?
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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:41 am

Get Real! wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:closing cases on an internet forum is very easy...GR is doing it all the time... :) Not so in real life..

The question to be asked is :Who else could the TCs trust back in 1963 if not Turkey...The GCs???I know for sure that at least in one real life case the GCs had advised some TCs not to return to the "Greek" sector,as their lives could not be guaranteed...No,this was not in Parliament but at Barclays Bank where one of my uncles was working at the time...Their GC colleagues told them outright not to return to work till the situation calmed down...Well,it never did...It is easy to pontificate from the safety of our keyboards in our safe heavens,is it not??? :(

Even if we put the entire past to rest, what can we say about the present TC policy?


That a downing man would grab onto a snake even, to save himself???
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:43 am

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Get Real! wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:closing cases on an internet forum is very easy...GR is doing it all the time... :) Not so in real life..

The question to be asked is :Who else could the TCs trust back in 1963 if not Turkey...The GCs???I know for sure that at least in one real life case the GCs had advised some TCs not to return to the "Greek" sector,as their lives could not be guaranteed...No,this was not in Parliament but at Barclays Bank where one of my uncles was working at the time...Their GC colleagues told them outright not to return to work till the situation calmed down...Well,it never did...It is easy to pontificate from the safety of our keyboards in our safe heavens,is it not??? :(

Even if we put the entire past to rest, what can we say about the present TC policy?


That a downing man would grab onto a snake even, to save himself???

Are you sure it’s about survival and not power?
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Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:39 am

BirKibrisli wrote:closing cases on an internet forum is very easy...GR is doing it all the time... :) Not so in real life..

The question to be asked is :Who else could the TCs trust back in 1963 if not Turkey...The GCs???I know for sure that at least in one real life case the GCs had advised some TCs not to return to the "Greek" sector,as their lives could not be guaranteed...No,this was not in Parliament but at Barclays Bank where one of my uncles was working at the time...Their GC colleagues told them outright not to return to work till the situation calmed down...Well,it never did...It is easy to pontificate from the safety of our keyboards in our safe heavens,is it not??? :(


Bir, my great aunt knew about everyone who has lived in her home, what was pillaged, and even how this stuff got back to Turkey, who told her but her neighbours; families who've lived together for hundreds of years are still sharing. the bank and the village, never mind who was told to go home and who stayed (and disappeared), trust is right down on the ground.

...this is a class war, a proxy war, and even something bigger for Humanity's sake. Cyprus is such a tiny island, subjugated to the will of others, and not the island's dwellers, over millenia; why? imagine the shame to all Mankind, if it isn't demonsrated here: Tolerance, Charity and Grace, now past the Modern Age. ...if this gift of Freedom is plundered by our own Ignorance. We are not "Greeks" or "Turks", we are the People who love this Land, as such Cypriots for the first time, having to make this choice as Individuals. beyond that, having chosen to demonstrate a Bicommunal way of life, as Persons, to sustain ourselves in National Assemblies, a recognition of the minorities which live amongst this electorate with respect is necessary.

Individual/Person; now if i can get you to read my manifesto...

...it is not important, just thinking, (lol) a fair referendum would provide the choice, Greece Turkey, Cyprus. 10% of the population will vote Turkey, 40% will vote Greece, but the majority will vote Cyprus.

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Postby lovernomore » Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:21 pm

Get Real! wrote:
lovernomore wrote:Would you deny the FACT that those ministers would have been executed if they were to participate in government?

You are so out of touch with the meaning of the word FACT that you might as well call it FACK!

Whoever heard of... "The fact that they would've been..." ????????

What kind of nonsense is that? :lol:

"would've been" implies an action or state in the FUTURE so how can you refer to it as “fact” prior to it happening???

What you’re referring to is a presumption! :roll:


Clutching at straws mate. Not here for English lessons.

FACT, you tried genocide in 63 and failed. Fact, you killed those you could get your hands on, the Ministers escaped execution by not attending parliament. You behaved like animals between 63-74 and your paying the penalty to this day, FACT.

@Kikapu, it is no surprise you close a case when the heat is on your Greek pals. Do you have the balls to slate the Turks when visiting your sister in Turkey? Or do you suck up to them like you suck up to the Greeks here?
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:33 pm

Well said lover these people twist and squirm to suit their own blinkered vision.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:25 pm

Get Real! wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:closing cases on an internet forum is very easy...GR is doing it all the time... :) Not so in real life..

The question to be asked is :Who else could the TCs trust back in 1963 if not Turkey...The GCs???I know for sure that at least in one real life case the GCs had advised some TCs not to return to the "Greek" sector,as their lives could not be guaranteed...No,this was not in Parliament but at Barclays Bank where one of my uncles was working at the time...Their GC colleagues told them outright not to return to work till the situation calmed down...Well,it never did...It is easy to pontificate from the safety of our keyboards in our safe heavens,is it not??? :(

Even if we put the entire past to rest, what can we say about the present TC policy?


That a downing man would grab onto a snake even, to save himself???

Are you sure it’s about survival and not power?


Absolutely!
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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:42 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:closing cases on an internet forum is very easy...GR is doing it all the time... :) Not so in real life..

The question to be asked is :Who else could the TCs trust back in 1963 if not Turkey...The GCs???I know for sure that at least in one real life case the GCs had advised some TCs not to return to the "Greek" sector,as their lives could not be guaranteed...No,this was not in Parliament but at Barclays Bank where one of my uncles was working at the time...Their GC colleagues told them outright not to return to work till the situation calmed down...Well,it never did...It is easy to pontificate from the safety of our keyboards in our safe heavens,is it not??? :(


Bir, my great aunt knew about everyone who has lived in her home, what was pillaged, and even how this stuff got back to Turkey, who told her but her neighbours; families who've lived together for hundreds of years are still sharing. the bank and the village, never mind who was told to go home and who stayed (and disappeared), trust is right down on the ground.

...this is a class war, a proxy war, and even something bigger for Humanity's sake. Cyprus is such a tiny island, subjugated to the will of others, and not the island's dwellers, over millenia; why? imagine the shame to all Mankind, if it isn't demonsrated here: Tolerance, Charity and Grace, now past the Modern Age. ...if this gift of Freedom is plundered by our own Ignorance. We are not "Greeks" or "Turks", we are the People who love this Land, as such Cypriots for the first time, having to make this choice as Individuals. beyond that, having chosen to demonstrate a Bicommunal way of life, as Persons, to sustain ourselves in National Assemblies, a recognition of the minorities which live amongst this electorate with respect is necessary.

Individual/Person; now if i can get you to read my manifesto...

...it is not important, just thinking, (lol) a fair referendum would provide the choice, Greece Turkey, Cyprus. 10% of the population will vote Turkey, 40% will vote Greece, but the majority will vote Cyprus.

Cheers!


The trouble is,my dear RW,that Cyprob has stopped being an individual/person problem a long time ago...due to reasons all sensible people here would agree upon,it has become a problem with communal ,nationalistic,and geopolitical dimensions...As individuals we can agree that YES we are Cypriots above all,but Cypriots bitterly divided with little trust,respect and understanding. Our glorious leaders have wasted many years fueling the embers of enmity,hence today we cannot even show an iota of empathy or compassion for each other...certainly not at communal level,and hardly ever at individual level...The prognosis is not good I am afraid... :(
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Postby boomerang » Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:58 pm

really?...how do you explain the standard of living in the north rising three times since the gates opened?...something your mentor dektash never achieved in his wildest dreams...

the problem here is, in the north the people elected are balless...they rather screw, read sell out, their own people rather than fight for their homeland...

what have your elected leaders have to show in lieu of all the money they recieved from turkey apart from lining their own pockets?...

you didn't even build a descent hospital to cater for your own people ffs...they would rather get shipped to the roc for free medical so they can keep on lining their pockets...

so in short putting your life in the enemy's hands is not trust huh?...the most valuable commodity today is your own life...but the tcs lining up for treatment i suppose do not have any trust...

tell me when have the tcs shown trust?...

please do not come back with the usual whine...
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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:09 pm

boomerang wrote:really?...how do you explain the standard of living in the north rising three times since the gates opened?...something your mentor dektash never achieved in his wildest dreams...

the problem here is, in the north the people elected are balless...they rather screw, read sell out, their own people rather than fight for their homeland...

what have your elected leaders have to show in lieu of all the money they recieved from turkey apart from lining their own pockets?...

you didn't even build a descent hospital to cater for your own people ffs...they would rather get shipped to the roc for free medical so they can keep on lining their pockets...

so in short putting your life in the enemy's hands is not trust huh?...the most valuable commodity today is your own life...but the tcs lining up for treatment i suppose do not have any trust...

tell me when have the tcs shown trust?...

please do not come back with the usual whine...


Your prognosis is even worse than that of Cyprus...They should double your medication and not let you out at all...You are a danger to any thinking person... :lol:
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