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Postby Jerry » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:35 am

Get Real! wrote:
Jerry wrote:...perhaps we should make the best of a bad job and negotiate a fair partition that would deny Turkey any say in the running of the southern state.

So the fact that the "TRNC" is unrecognized is a "bad job" and we should make amends to fix it eh? Image

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Read it again idiot, the "bad job" is the partition not the lack of recognition.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:05 am

We don't have partition, Jerry.

We have an illegal occupation which has established racist, segregationist Apartheid, against Greeks, to maintain its ethnic cleansing.

Partition is what you want because you cannot stomach the uncertainty ...
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Postby Jerry » Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:15 am

Oracle wrote:We don't have partition, Jerry.

We have an illegal occupation which has established racist, segregationist Apartheid, against Greeks, to maintain its ethnic cleansing.

Partition is what you want because you cannot stomach the uncertainty ...


Well the other playground bully said on this very thread: -
"Partition has existed for the last 36 years so I hardly think someone’s views in 2010 are the cause of it."

Perhaps you would care to have a word with him too. I look forward to seeing your exchanges here.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:40 am

Jerry wrote:
Oracle wrote:We don't have partition, Jerry.

We have an illegal occupation which has established racist, segregationist Apartheid, against Greeks, to maintain its ethnic cleansing.

Partition is what you want because you cannot stomach the uncertainty ...


Well the other playground bully said on this very thread: -
"Partition has existed for the last 36 years so I hardly think someone’s views in 2010 are the cause of it."

Perhaps you would care to have a word with him too. I look forward to seeing your exchanges here.



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Postby Jerry » Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:45 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Jerry wrote:
Oracle wrote:We don't have partition, Jerry.

We have an illegal occupation which has established racist, segregationist Apartheid, against Greeks, to maintain its ethnic cleansing.

Partition is what you want because you cannot stomach the uncertainty ...


Well the other playground bully said on this very thread: -
"Partition has existed for the last 36 years so I hardly think someone’s views in 2010 are the cause of it."

Perhaps you would care to have a word with him too. I look forward to seeing your exchanges here.



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Nah! A reprimand and a few PMs, you'll see nothing posted here.
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Postby CopperLine » Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:52 am

Concerning civilians, the Fourth Geneva Convention provides that—as to aliens in the territory of a party to the conflict—“[t]he internment or placing in assigned residence of protected persons may be ordered only if the security of the Detaining Power makes it absolutely necessary.” In an occupied territory, “[i]f the Occupying Power considers it necessary, for imperative reasons of security, to take safety measures concerning protected persons, it may, at the most subject them to assigned residence or to internment.”

Laura Olson, PRACTICAL CHALLENGES OF IMPLEMENTING THE COMPLEMENTARITY BETWEEN INTERNATIONAL HUMANITARIAN AND HUMANRIGHTS LAW—DEMONSTRATED BY THE PROCEDURAL REGULATION OF INTERNMENT IN NON-INTERNATIONAL ARMED CONFLICT



There is no provision in international law for allowing internment because of one's political views ("partionist"). There is no provision in RoC law for internment because of one's political views, nor in EU law. Indeed it is a basic human rights violation which Oracle advocates.

Second, Geneva IV only allows internment under very limited conditions, namely during international armed conflict AND when "absolutely necessary" AND only applied "to aliens in the territory of a party to the conflict." According to the RoC constitution even TC partionists are not "aliens".

Third, the RoC is not an occupying power in Cyprus (unless this is what Oracle now thinks). What T did to GCs in '74 was in breach of Geneva I-IV, therefore a basic human rights violation, and Oracle is proposing to do the same to people - GCs, TCs, or anyone - whom she accuses of "partitionism". She's a fascist nutter.

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Postby B25 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:06 pm

CopperLine wrote:
Concerning civilians, the Fourth Geneva Convention provides that—as to aliens in the territory of a party to the conflict—“[t]he internment or placing in assigned residence of protected persons may be ordered only if the security of the Detaining Power makes it absolutely necessary.” In an occupied territory, “[i]f the Occupying Power considers it necessary, for imperative reasons of security, to take safety measures concerning protected persons, it may, at the most subject them to assigned residence or to internment.”

Laura Olson, PRACTICAL CHALLENGES OF IMPLEMENTING THE COMPLEMENTARITY BETWEEN INTERNATIONAL HUMANITARIAN AND HUMANRIGHTS LAW—DEMONSTRATED BY THE PROCEDURAL REGULATION OF INTERNMENT IN NON-INTERNATIONAL ARMED CONFLICT



There is no provision in international law for allowing internment because of one's political views ("partionist"). There is no provision in RoC law for internment because of one's political views, nor in EU law. Indeed it is a basic human rights violation which Oracle advocates.

Second, Geneva IV only allows internment under very limited conditions, namely during international armed conflict AND when "absolutely necessary" AND only applied "to aliens in the territory of a party to the conflict." According to the RoC constitution even TC partionists are not "aliens".

Third, the RoC is not an occupying power in Cyprus (unless this is what Oracle now thinks). What T did to GCs in '74 was in breach of Geneva I-IV, therefore a basic human rights violation, and Oracle is proposing to do the same to people - GCs, TCs, or anyone - whom she accuses of "partitionism". She's a fascist nutter.

Unite against racism and fascism.


Copper, were you at the Rainbow Festival??? Your tag line looks just like theirs :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:25 pm

Jerry wrote:
Oracle wrote:We don't have partition, Jerry.

We have an illegal occupation which has established racist, segregationist Apartheid, against Greeks, to maintain its ethnic cleansing.

Partition is what you want because you cannot stomach the uncertainty ...


Well the other playground bully said on this very thread: -
"Partition has existed for the last 36 years so I hardly think someone’s views in 2010 are the cause of it."

Perhaps you would care to have a word with him too. I look forward to seeing your exchanges here.


Contextualisation appears to be another of your failings. He was referring to the accusation of my words, at this moment, now, causing "partition" amongst the TCs and GCs as communities!

That's a far cry from trying to bury the shame you must be suffering at having exposed your wish that the RoC should hurry up and sign on the dotted line and let the Turks have our country.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:30 pm

Jerry wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Jerry wrote:...perhaps we should make the best of a bad job and negotiate a fair partition that would deny Turkey any say in the running of the southern state.

So the fact that the "TRNC" is unrecognized is a "bad job" and we should make amends to fix it eh? Image

Vromoshille!


Read it again idiot, the "bad job" is the partition not the lack of recognition.

Did you not suggest to "negotiate a fair partition" ?

Does that not make you a partitionist in contravention to the Republic’s sovereignty and territorial integrity?
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Postby Oracle » Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:31 pm

CopperLine wrote:
Concerning civilians, the Fourth Geneva Convention provides that—as to aliens in the territory of a party to the conflict—“[t]he internment or placing in assigned residence of protected persons may be ordered only if the security of the Detaining Power makes it absolutely necessary.” In an occupied territory, “[i]f the Occupying Power considers it necessary, for imperative reasons of security, to take safety measures concerning protected persons, it may, at the most subject them to assigned residence or to internment.”

Laura Olson, PRACTICAL CHALLENGES OF IMPLEMENTING THE COMPLEMENTARITY BETWEEN INTERNATIONAL HUMANITARIAN AND HUMANRIGHTS LAW—DEMONSTRATED BY THE PROCEDURAL REGULATION OF INTERNMENT IN NON-INTERNATIONAL ARMED CONFLICT



There is no provision in international law for allowing internment because of one's political views ("partionist"). There is no provision in RoC law for internment because of one's political views, nor in EU law. Indeed it is a basic human rights violation which Oracle advocates.

Second, Geneva IV only allows internment under very limited conditions, namely during international armed conflict AND when "absolutely necessary" AND only applied "to aliens in the territory of a party to the conflict." According to the RoC constitution even TC partionists are not "aliens".

Third, the RoC is not an occupying power in Cyprus (unless this is what Oracle now thinks). What T did to GCs in '74 was in breach of Geneva I-IV, therefore a basic human rights violation, and Oracle is proposing to do the same to people - GCs, TCs, or anyone - whom she accuses of "partitionism". She's a fascist nutter.

Unite against racism and fascism.


What an idiot to the nth degree. Since when has withholding certain privileges from those who are a danger to the community been a violation of their Human Rights? If someone steals, murders, rapes or endangers lives; are there no consequences for their actions? As GR! said, read the damn posts and stop mouthing-off stupidities against your own made up assumptions just so that you can quote "law-books" for your own gratification.
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