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[denizaksulu]

I confirmed nothing and stop putting words into my mouth.

Partition is the last thing I want. Its the GCs, some of them who are 'pushing' the TCs away by showing their hatred to ALL TC's regardless.

[Jerry]

I confirmed nothing and stop putting words into my mouth.

Partition is the last thing I want. Its the GCs, some of them who are 'pushing' the TCs away by showing their hatred to ALL TC's regardless.

I couldn't agree more with you Deniz, bloody fools don't realise how much damage their big mouths do.

It's strange how someone who calls for the internment of partitionists actually condones and even promotes attitudes that make partition more likely.

The last thing I want for Cyprus is partition but we have it today, only it's unrecognised. I can't see Turkey ever giving up some sort of presence on the island, perhaps we should make the best of a bad job and negotiate a fair partition that would deny Turkey any say in the running of the southern state. If the tiny northern state, without the so-called embargoes, ever fulfilled the criteria for EU membership good luck to them.

Or we could wait another 36 or even 136 years. By then I doubt if anyone alive on the island would care whom he or she shared it with so long as they lived in peace.

I’m no apologist for the Turks but we should try to view the Cyprus problem from the other side and accept that, perhaps even in a small way, some Greek Cypriots are partly to blame for the situation we find ourselves in.

The recent incident in Larnaca clearly demonstrates that there are enough troublemakers around to fuel the call; some would say need, for partition. Those cretinous fascists are playing right into the hands of the partitionists.

[denizaksulu]

I confirmed nothing and stop putting words into my mouth.

Partition is the last thing I want. Its the GCs, some of them who are 'pushing' the TCs away by showing their hatred to ALL TC's regardless.

I couldn't agree more with you Deniz, bloody fools don't realise how much damage their big mouths do.

It's strange how someone who calls for the internment of partitionists actually condones and even promotes attitudes that make partition more likely.

The last thing I want for Cyprus is partition but we have it today, only it's unrecognised. I can't see Turkey ever giving up some sort of presence on the island, perhaps we should make the best of a bad job and negotiate a fair partition that would deny Turkey any say in the running of the southern state. If the tiny northern state, without the so-called embargoes, ever fulfilled the criteria for EU membership good luck to them.

Or we could wait another 36 or even 136 years. By then I doubt if anyone alive on the island would care whom he or she shared it with so long as they lived in peace.

I’m no apologist for the Turks but we should try to view the Cyprus problem from the other side and accept that, perhaps even in a small way, some Greek Cypriots are partly to blame for the situation we find ourselves in.

The recent incident in Larnaca clearly demonstrates that there are enough troublemakers around to fuel the call; some would say need, for partition. Those cretinous fascists are playing right into the hands of the partitionists.

Thank you Jerry, I would never be capable of putting my case as succinctly as you have done.

[Oracle]

I can't see Turkey ever giving up some sort of presence on the island, perhaps we should make the best of a bad job and negotiate a fair partition that would deny Turkey any say in the running of the southern state. If the tiny northern state, without the so-called embargoes, ever fulfilled the criteria for EU membership good luck to them.

So who's giving the partitionists ammunition, Jerry? What "southern state"? Which "northern state"?

It doesn't matter what I say. You've already sliced up Cyprus and given the "northern state" to the Turks for evermore!

[Get Real!]

...perhaps we should make the best of a bad job and negotiate a fair partition that would deny Turkey any say in the running of the southern state.

So the fact that the "TRNC" is unrecognized is a "bad job" and we should make amends to fix it eh?

Vromoshille!

[CopperLine]

The simple fact is that Oracle is a nutter.

Thank goodness that there are people like denizaksulu, jerry bill cobbett and gasman and bananiot on this forum whom one might agree or disagree with but who are definitely not twisted up with Oracle's pathological hatred.

It is equally straightforward to say that Oracle's proposal of internment is a fundamental breach of human rights and amounts to collective punishment, also a war crime. Fascists like Oracle have no idea what human rights actually refer to let alone know how to protect human rights.

Her poisonous criminal views should be treated with the contempt they deserve by any decent person.

[Get Real!]

It is equally straightforward to say that Oracle's proposal of internment is a fundamental breach of human rights and amounts to collective punishment, also a war crime.

We don’t see you complaining about REAL HR violations happening around the world on this forum, yet you were quick off the mark to condemn Oracle’s suggestion of a hardlinish policy to flush out traitors… and there are many!

I can only conclude that you instinctively react against the user “Oracle” as opposed to the thread’s content.

[CopperLine]

It is equally straightforward to say that Oracle's proposal of internment is a fundamental breach of human rights and amounts to collective punishment, also a war crime.

We don’t see you complaining about REAL HR violations happening around the world on this forum, yet you were quick off the mark to condemn Oracle’s suggestion of a hardlinish policy to flush out traitors… and there are many!

I can only conclude that you instinctively react against the user “Oracle” as opposed to the thread’s content.

Get Real,
Go back through my contributions to CF and you'll find plenty of condemnations of HR violations around the world, including those committed by Turkey in Turkey and in Cyprus. I don't need a lesson from you in condemning human rights violations. (For example, I opened a thread a few days ago about the numbers and kinds of civilian deaths caused by the military in Iraq and Afghanistan - I think only one person on CF thought that some of the most widespread and vicious human rights abuses of the last quarter century was even worth commenting on).

My last response to Oracle - I generally try not to address Oracle for the sack of poison she is - was due to the fact that this last thread was an especially offensive and abusive proposal especially in the light of last week's racist stabbing. She is a racist and fascist and we should unite against racism and fascism. Simple as that.

[Get Real!]

For example, I opened a thread a few days ago about the numbers and kinds of civilian deaths caused by the military in Iraq and Afghanistan - I think only one person on CF thought that some of the most widespread and vicious human rights abuses of the last quarter century was even worth commenting on).

Err, how many years ago was that thread created?

She is a racist and fascist and we should unite against racism and fascism. Simple as that.

Everyone is racist… but at different levels.

In fact, being anti-racist could also be considered a form of prejudice!

[Oracle]

CopperLine and his selective nature!

Yes, let's unite against racism and fascism. The kind which segregate Cyprus in two, removing the HRs of Greeks. Do you agree to that CopperLine? Or is your "personal" view of "fascism and racism" not the same as the one which aims to totally remove segregation, Apartheid and ethnic cleansing from Cyprus?

Go on. Give us some of your "famed" condemnation of what Turkey carries out, right now, in Cyprus! I certainly don't recall you condemning Turkey's racist segregation against the Greek Cypriots. As I said, "Selective CopperLine"!